RL RT Joe

From Acura

"Important Notice: The New 2012 DVD Map Update will be available by the end of September."

Has anyone heard of the updates on the 2012 version?
Is it worth the cost or should I save my coin and buy the 2011 v4.92 for $50.00

Thanks

037

if you can find it for $50, grab it. I see it on the site for $185

Ballinger

The "is it worth it" really depends on whether you're living in a well-mapped area or one that has many updates. When the new one comes out, they'll list the updates by area, so you can evaluate whether it's something you need.

Megatron

I think the $50 ones are copies. I haven't seen a genuine original v4.92 disc for $50 anywhere.

037

Never seen a copied disc, the last one I was able to copy was 4.62 as a backup.

brinox

if you are going to be buying a copy of a 4.92 disc, you might as well make your own - i recently "obtained" a 4.92 disc image by common electronic networking methods and burned my own copy and saved myself the 50 bones for the service that others are gouging with.

oo7spy

Will you pm me the info?

brinox

FYI, i ebayed a 2005 model year Navigation drive, and needed to get an older map update disc before this 4.92 disc (legitimate or otherwise) would even boot up.

For those of you who have a 2005 model year navigation system, you MUST get the firmware update from an earlier disc before you can use any of the newer white label discs (4.71_ and newer if I am not mistaken).

037

did the upgrade actually work?

I know I got as far as burning a copy and installing it in the car, but it never actually booted up after the install.

Can you confirm it actually works?

Megatron

Yes, a copy of 4.92 actually works. It involved more than just a simple copy. It involves modified software that actually validates the copy protection checks that it uses. There are two versions out there... one that include the modified software directly on the disc, and one that involves in two step process where you load the modified firmware first using a separate disc, and then putting in an unmodified copy of the original disc.

As far as I know, this is what the $50 versions get you. No one is selling you an original, genuine 4.92 disc for $50.

BDoggPrelude

When the new 2012 disc comes out will Navteq lower the cost of the 2011 disc?

RL RT Joe

I can't see spending the $185 just to have the crumbs disappear. There are a lot of threads started on this topic and it seems that there is about a 50% approval/disapproval of the newer disks. I'll sit on the fence a little longer

Megatron

No, they don't lower the price... they just stop selling the 2011 one and only have the 2012 available.

If you want a cheaper 2011 disc then, you have to check E-Bay.

BDoggPrelude

I'll probably just shell out the dough for the new disc. I'm pretty sure my 06 has the original nav disc in it.

brinox

yes, it was a bit convoluted however. I had to first go find an earlier disc version (4.31C, in this case) to update the firmware of the 2005 disc drive that i bought (i have a 2007 model year vehicle).

After updating to 4.31C, the 4.92 disc that I downloaded and burned worked flawlessly, and i didnt have to load it manually even.

tl;dr - i downloaded two separate disc versions, 4.31C and 4.92. I updated in sequence, and all worked well.

for this process to work, you must have a DVD burner that can manually set the booktype of a DVD+R DL.


in any case, i feel weird talking about downloaded/torrented nav discs and beating the system. if anyone has any questions PLEASE PM ME and/or EMAIL ME! brinox at gmail dot com

BDoggPrelude

The updating issues are only on the 2005 models, right? The reason I ask is that I'm about to buy the 2012 dis and I'm pretty sure my 06 still has the original nav disc in it.

DiabloSVRacer

bdoggprelude

im pretty sure its only on the 05 rl. i have a 05 rl and couldn't use the 2011 disc cause i was updating from the orignal that came with the car. maybe some 06 models were affected. the problem was daylight saving; all dealers were suppose to upgrade the software in teh navigation but no one ever did it for my rl but my uncle works at honda and did the update for me and then when i popped in the new disc it installed the new update and gave me teh maps.

so technically, the new 2011 disc (guessing it goes the same for the upcoming 2012) could not update from the first software; cause it can only update from after the FIXED UPDATE DISC that the dealers have. even my acura dealer service couldn't tell me this. i was kinda pissed they didn't do the update for me and i had to figure it out some other way.

brinox

Just to clarify, if you happen to have a 2005 model year RL or MDX rear DVD disc drive, white label disc versions 4.71x and newer will not update the firmware on these drives because they simply dont have the firmware update anymore. supposedly disc versions previous to 4.71x DO have the firmware update (i can verify that 4.31C does work) and will allow the drive to work with the later disc versions without incident.

Once you update the firmware from the firmware update disc OR one of these older data disc versions, you won't need to worry about any incompatibility at least for version 4.92

BDoggPrelude

Just ordered the 2012 V4.A2 update disc for $149+shipping. It says it will be available "late September" and will ship then. I know there are some out of date areas around me that will be fixed with this update. Will I see any differences in the actual interface? I've noticed some people reporting better resolution after doing an update.

BDoggPrelude

That was fast. Received a shipment confirmation from Navteq today. The new nav disc will be here Wednesday.

Zelaya

iTrader: (1)

I'd love if they can change fonts or different style on the screen like the 4g TL. I wonder if the nav can be modify. I 2012 version you can change voice from woman to men. I hate a woman telling me where to you go.

db22

The resolution id determined by the hardware of the screen and the display driver for all of the versions utilize max resolution available. The newer systems such as my 10 MDX has the HDD with a higher resolution screen and the graphics driver to match.
The main reason to update is if there are a lot of POI's in your area or road construction changes that you may require the system to access. Otherwise the update is a lot of money for 99% useless information which is already out of date by the time that you can purchase it.
The only way to go in the future is an online 4G system utilizing, for example, Google maps and traffic. The only advantage to our old systems is when there is no reception we still have an accessible database from the Nav DVD.

bwelden

I may be off topic here guys but im a rookie and it wont let me start a new thread. What's the best way to update the navi on a 2006 RL? Thanks Blake

HEAVY_RL

iTrader: (1)

Buy the new disc... I'm sure you will get answers in your threads too.

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-audio-bluetooth-electronics-navigation-90/navigation-questions-838270/

BluNosr2

The way they price these between US and Canada is pretty funny...the US map is $149, but I can order the two disc US+Canada set for only $179 Canadian. Since I never drive into the US (just fly in) the US disc is useless to me, but apparently worth $149 to someone south of the border? LOL

Deadhorse

Acura has a new navigation plan called Mapcare. You can get three (3) updates for $299. If you sign up, you automatically receive three (3) annual updates for three years.

HEAVY_RL

iTrader: (1)

Sounds like a deal if you split it with someone in the US

racerrl

The updates should be free. Many of the aftermarket GPS's let you download their updates at no charge. We could burn our own disk and save.