Top 10 Reasons the 2009 RL is Better than the 2008 RL
02-06-2008, 03:14 PM
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Top 10 Reasons the 2009 RL is Better than the 2008 RL
10. Accords don't come in SH-AWD.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
02-06-2008, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CL6
10. Accords don't come in SH-AWD.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
02-06-2008, 03:28 PM
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Rough crowd.....
In its defense, there are a few things that are better:
1) More power.
2) More torque.
3) XM Weather.
4) Cooled seats.
5) 10-way Passnger power seat.
6) 18" wheels.
7) Armrest cutouts.
8) USB port.
9) More wood trim & choices.
10) Roomier rear seat & trunk.
11) Paddle shift anytime (not sure on this one).
We've complained bitterly about marketing, but here is Acura trying to make a big splash with the RL. If Acura markets the RL in the way we think it needs, all the uproar about the grille and lack of other changes won't matter.
Maybe this car is just different enough for them to reset the clock and do it right. I could imagine that this MMC will ride through 2010. Remember, the last RL lasted about 8 model years or so.
Rob144
In its defense, there are a few things that are better:
1) More power.
2) More torque.
3) XM Weather.
4) Cooled seats.
5) 10-way Passnger power seat.
6) 18" wheels.
7) Armrest cutouts.
8) USB port.
9) More wood trim & choices.
10) Roomier rear seat & trunk.
11) Paddle shift anytime (not sure on this one).
We've complained bitterly about marketing, but here is Acura trying to make a big splash with the RL. If Acura markets the RL in the way we think it needs, all the uproar about the grille and lack of other changes won't matter.
Maybe this car is just different enough for them to reset the clock and do it right. I could imagine that this MMC will ride through 2010. Remember, the last RL lasted about 8 model years or so.
Rob144
02-06-2008, 03:44 PM
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at 10 best concept.Yeah, they sure did make a splash with this car....every Acura, Honda, and other board has panned the design of the front, and 1/2 think the rear looks like the 8G Accord.
Fix the grille and market the car, and it may have a chance.
02-06-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob144
Rough crowd.....
In its defense, there are a few things that are better:
1) More power.
2) More torque.
3) XM Weather.
4) Cooled seats.
5) 10-way Passnger power seat.
6) 18" wheels.
7) Armrest cutouts.
8) USB port.
9) More wood trim & choices.
10) Roomier rear seat & trunk.
11) Paddle shift anytime (not sure on this one).
We've complained bitterly about marketing, but here is Acura trying to make a big splash with the RL. If Acura markets the RL in the way we think it needs, all the uproar about the grille and lack of other changes won't matter.
Maybe this car is just different enough for them to reset the clock and do it right. I could imagine that this MMC will ride through 2010. Remember, the last RL lasted about 8 model years or so.
Rob144
In its defense, there are a few things that are better:
1) More power.
2) More torque.
3) XM Weather.
4) Cooled seats.
5) 10-way Passnger power seat.
6) 18" wheels.
7) Armrest cutouts.
8) USB port.
9) More wood trim & choices.
10) Roomier rear seat & trunk.
11) Paddle shift anytime (not sure on this one).
We've complained bitterly about marketing, but here is Acura trying to make a big splash with the RL. If Acura markets the RL in the way we think it needs, all the uproar about the grille and lack of other changes won't matter.
Maybe this car is just different enough for them to reset the clock and do it right. I could imagine that this MMC will ride through 2010. Remember, the last RL lasted about 8 model years or so.
Rob144
- More power and torque, but enough to even notice? I think not.
- XM Weather? What I've seen says AcuraLink Weather. In any case, it's just a screen showing an icon and saying rainy or sunny or whatever. Doesn't look like the live radar overlay on the nav screen.
- Cooled seats, passenger seat adjustment and 18" wheels, all good.
- Armrest cutouts?
- USB port good.
- More wood? It seems to say real wood only with the top package, whereas only the base pkg. now comes without wood. Sounds like LESS wood to me!
- Extra room good.
- Paddle shift (and other transmission enhancements?), I'm not sure about either, but most of us never used the paddles anyway.
The writeups from Acura are obvious attempts to convince the emperor he has a really fine suit of clothes, and use a lot of words to say very little.
I'll check back with my local Acura dealer when the next-gen RL shows up in a couple of years.
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02-06-2008, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
But Rob -
- More power and torque, but enough to even notice? I think not.
- XM Weather? What I've seen says AcuraLink Weather. In any case, it's just a screen showing an icon and saying rainy or sunny or whatever. Doesn't look like the live radar overlay on the nav screen.
- Cooled seats, passenger seat adjustment and 18" wheels, all good.
- Armrest cutouts?
- USB port good.
- More wood? It seems to say real wood only with the top package, whereas only the base pkg. now comes without wood. Sounds like LESS wood to me!
- Extra room good.
- Paddle shift (and other transmission enhancements?), I'm not sure about either, but most of us never used the paddles anyway.
The writeups from Acura are obvious attempts to convince the emperor he has a really fine suit of clothes, and use a lot of words to say very little.
I'll check back with my local Acura dealer when the next-gen RL shows up in a couple of years.
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- More power and torque, but enough to even notice? I think not.
- XM Weather? What I've seen says AcuraLink Weather. In any case, it's just a screen showing an icon and saying rainy or sunny or whatever. Doesn't look like the live radar overlay on the nav screen.
- Cooled seats, passenger seat adjustment and 18" wheels, all good.
- Armrest cutouts?
- USB port good.
- More wood? It seems to say real wood only with the top package, whereas only the base pkg. now comes without wood. Sounds like LESS wood to me!
- Extra room good.
- Paddle shift (and other transmission enhancements?), I'm not sure about either, but most of us never used the paddles anyway.
The writeups from Acura are obvious attempts to convince the emperor he has a really fine suit of clothes, and use a lot of words to say very little.
I'll check back with my local Acura dealer when the next-gen RL shows up in a couple of years.
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We probably won't notice the power, but we should notice the torque a bit especially when we're already moving a bit. We might notice a better handling shawd if we REALLY push it to that extent.
But i'm assuming this weighs more, hopefully not by much otherwise the power is useless.
Canada had the cooled seats, power passenger adjustment already, and we had 18" with the aspect..although maybe the Aspec kit could look nice on this too...
And even the weather, may be good, but isn't it 100 a month?
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02-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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Complete Failure. Its just mind boggling that somebody actually said, "Wow, this car looks great".
Did these fools see the Hyundai Genesis concept. Take that car and slap an Acura badge and people would be raving...about a true mid-luxo competitor.
For a car company that came out with the Legend and boasted some great cars like the MDX and TL, this is utter stupidity. Complete Morons.
I really feel sorry for the sales reps at the Acura dealers. They will never move this car...never.
Did these fools see the Hyundai Genesis concept. Take that car and slap an Acura badge and people would be raving...about a true mid-luxo competitor.
For a car company that came out with the Legend and boasted some great cars like the MDX and TL, this is utter stupidity. Complete Morons.
I really feel sorry for the sales reps at the Acura dealers. They will never move this car...never.
02-06-2008, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
But Rob -
- More power and torque, but enough to even notice? I think not.
- XM Weather? What I've seen says AcuraLink Weather. In any case, it's just a screen showing an icon and saying rainy or sunny or whatever. Doesn't look like the live radar overlay on the nav screen.
- Cooled seats, passenger seat adjustment and 18" wheels, all good.
- Armrest cutouts?
- USB port good.
- More wood? It seems to say real wood only with the top package, whereas only the base pkg. now comes without wood. Sounds like LESS wood to me!
- Extra room good.
- Paddle shift (and other transmission enhancements?), I'm not sure about either, but most of us never used the paddles anyway.
The writeups from Acura are obvious attempts to convince the emperor he has a really fine suit of clothes, and use a lot of words to say very little.
I'll check back with my local Acura dealer when the next-gen RL shows up in a couple of years.
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- More power and torque, but enough to even notice? I think not.
- XM Weather? What I've seen says AcuraLink Weather. In any case, it's just a screen showing an icon and saying rainy or sunny or whatever. Doesn't look like the live radar overlay on the nav screen.
- Cooled seats, passenger seat adjustment and 18" wheels, all good.
- Armrest cutouts?
- USB port good.
- More wood? It seems to say real wood only with the top package, whereas only the base pkg. now comes without wood. Sounds like LESS wood to me!
- Extra room good.
- Paddle shift (and other transmission enhancements?), I'm not sure about either, but most of us never used the paddles anyway.
The writeups from Acura are obvious attempts to convince the emperor he has a really fine suit of clothes, and use a lot of words to say very little.
I'll check back with my local Acura dealer when the next-gen RL shows up in a couple of years.
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The arm-rest cutouts are on the doors, so that you don't only have to reach out and use the grab handle -- an awkward maneuver.
True, weather doesn't have an overlay (that'd be cool), but it does look like you can get a 3-day forecast. Granted, it may be of limited value now, but someday there'll be radar data and this will be where in-car weather got its start.
I really want to see what the additional room looks like.
Rob144
02-06-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
Seriously there is no point to in car weather, look out the big window in the front and there ya go.
And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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02-06-2008, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kirbyflorida
Sounds like the f1 shifters might really works, fast and crisp. The reason we do not use them now is the long delay on the current ones.
02-06-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by super-rl
Top 10 Reasons the 2009 RL is Better than the 2008 RL?
well it's look 10 time better than the 2008
well it's look 10 time better than the 2008
Super-RL: Step away from the crack pipe and put the lighter down ...
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02-06-2008, 10:04 PM
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Not that anyone here or Acura cares, but I for one will NOT, repeat, NOT be replacing my '06 RL with this "new" car even with all the improvements or additions they made on it. It is ugly enough for me not to even care about more power (which is negligible), more torque, cooled seats, etc, etc, etc.
I've always bought my cars based on a combination of performance and looks, or technology and looks. This new RL does not fit the bill on either one of my scales.
One mans humble opinion...
L8r,
I've always bought my cars based on a combination of performance and looks, or technology and looks. This new RL does not fit the bill on either one of my scales.
One mans humble opinion...
L8r,
02-06-2008, 10:33 PM
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Awesome, you should be writing for Letterman.
And yes, my 08 RL just went up in value.
And yes, my 08 RL just went up in value.
Originally Posted by CL6
10. Accords don't come in SH-AWD.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
02-06-2008, 10:35 PM
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This depends on where you live. Here in Sunny CA, we can tell the weather from 700 miles and 7 days away 
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You're late to the party - we've already discussed this.
And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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02-06-2008, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by super-rl
Top 10 Reasons the 2009 RL is Better than the 2008 RL?
well it's look 10 time better than the 2008
well it's look 10 time better than the 2008
Who gave this guy a soap box?
02-07-2008, 12:37 AM
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This will be a Harvard Business School case study...a universally detested redesign gets trumpeted as the essential new brand-defining look! (The beak looks like it belongs on a Japanese Pontiac. Where were the focus groups? Where was good taste or common sense??)
These Acura execs must have gone to a different business school than I did. They seem to think they are smarter than the customer--and we're talking about the existing customer to boot!
Unlikely.
These Acura execs must have gone to a different business school than I did. They seem to think they are smarter than the customer--and we're talking about the existing customer to boot!
Unlikely.
02-07-2008, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You're late to the party - we've already discussed this.
And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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02-08-2008, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CL6
10. Accords don't come in SH-AWD.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
9. Makes the 2001-2003 CL look like a success story.
8. At least people will notice your car this time.
7. You'll be able to get an even better deal on one.
6. Honda is an equal opportunity employer - the RL designer is blind and the guy who approved it is retarded.
5. You loved the looks of the Chevy Malibu, just wanted more luxury.
4. At least there's more trunk room.
3. The resale value of your 2008 will increase.
2. It'll still sell better than the Phaeton.
1. No animals were harmed during the redesign of this model.
02-11-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
at 10 best concept.Yeah, they sure did make a splash with this car....every Acura, Honda, and other board has panned the design of the front, and 1/2 think the rear looks like the 8G Accord.
Fix the grille and market the car, and it may have a chance.
I agree...Its looks like the Accord!!!!
06-15-2008, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You're late to the party - we've already discussed this.
And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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06-17-2008, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BradleyDichter
Not that I live in an area likely to be affected, but wouldn't a tornado warning be useful in a 2009 RL? That is some weather worth knowing about before you see it in the windshield. Also I'd like to avoid hail. Not good for the paint or window or anything for that matter. Also hard rain leads to flooded streets, which leads to traffic avoiding a street we can't drive through.
Here's another epiphany: This may be a little far fetched but you could be listening to the radio on your way to work or wherever you're going and.....yes....this could actually happen...there could be a short weather advisory that may interupt the scheduled radio transmission to warn you of hazardous weather and/or road conditions.
06-17-2008, 03:41 AM
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....But wait a minute. It would seem that if something that terrible, like a hail storm or a tornado, would occur there would be......now stay with me....I may be reaching here a little but....ummmmm...seems like there would be something like some dark clouds or gusting winds or maybe when the first few hail stones drop you could....like...ummmm....try to find some cover for your car as fast as possible? Like..um..maybe...ummm....an OVERPASS? Maybe a PARKING DECK? Correct me if I'm wrong here please.
06-17-2008, 03:47 AM
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I just had another epiphany: Even if your XM in weather thingy or other warned you of a tornado how are you going to know which direction to run away? I mean I doubt it would warn you in a knick of time because there is no knick of time when your car is about to lift off like a DC-10 or a 747.
How would an XM in weather thing safely warn you from a hail storm? I mean it seems that these natural disasters have been predicted by conventional forecasting media for quite some time. Wait. I get it. This new XM in weather thingy is supposed to project some kind of force field that's supposed to deflect all harsh weather conditions right? Do you think Acura will come out with a model that will have cloaking capabilities?
How would an XM in weather thing safely warn you from a hail storm? I mean it seems that these natural disasters have been predicted by conventional forecasting media for quite some time. Wait. I get it. This new XM in weather thingy is supposed to project some kind of force field that's supposed to deflect all harsh weather conditions right? Do you think Acura will come out with a model that will have cloaking capabilities?
06-17-2008, 08:12 AM
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If XM weather works like XM Traffic then the information will be past tense. (it won't stop them from charging you for it though). I kept XM traffic because it was implied that it was a new system and that it would improve soon. If weather is new then you will probably have to wait at least 5 years for it to be any good.
If XM Traffic and weather were valuable then how come more cars don't have it? Traffic has been out for years.
It looks like the Sirius deal may go through, does that mean the end of the XM add-ons?
If XM Traffic and weather were valuable then how come more cars don't have it? Traffic has been out for years.
It looks like the Sirius deal may go through, does that mean the end of the XM add-ons?
06-17-2008, 11:00 AM
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Let me rephrase the above: If XM weather "works" like other XM services, it will require 25 calls to XM's Listener Care, none of which will solve the root problems.
In other news, I'd love to see how the 2009 RL residuals are going to look on 3 year leases.
In other news, I'd love to see how the 2009 RL residuals are going to look on 3 year leases.
06-17-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You're late to the party - we've already discussed this.
And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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And looking out the window will tell you what the weather is right here, right now, but will it tell you what it's going to be tomorrow? Or whether it's raining 100 miles up the road? I don't think so.
But then you could say there's no point in air conditioning, either - just open the windows.
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I guess your RL does not have xm weather
06-18-2008, 12:26 AM
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Even if XM weather warns you of bad weather 100 miles ahead what are you going to do? Turn around and go home? What if every available alternate route is also covered by adverse weather conditions? You going to just park your car and hope for the best?
As far as future adverse weather conditions I think it would be easier and cheaper just to turn the T.V. on in the afternoon and check out the local forecast. Better yet, if you have cable, which you're going to need by Feb. 2009 anyways, you can check out the weather conditions across the country on the weather channel. That way if you plan on going out of town in the near future you can plan ahead.
Adverse weather conditions just don't materialize out of thin air, particularly, without any kind of warning--one moment you're driving along in sunny weather, the next moment the sky is black and your car is being pummeled by softball-sized hail or a tornado just touches down one foot in front of your car and sweeps you off to Kansas. These issues can be avoided by simply turning on your T.V. in the morning or afternoon or picking up a newpaper. Save yourself the trouble of paying $70,000 for a car just to get up-to-date weather reports. Subscribe to a newspaper or turn on your T.V. or do both.
As far as future adverse weather conditions I think it would be easier and cheaper just to turn the T.V. on in the afternoon and check out the local forecast. Better yet, if you have cable, which you're going to need by Feb. 2009 anyways, you can check out the weather conditions across the country on the weather channel. That way if you plan on going out of town in the near future you can plan ahead.
Adverse weather conditions just don't materialize out of thin air, particularly, without any kind of warning--one moment you're driving along in sunny weather, the next moment the sky is black and your car is being pummeled by softball-sized hail or a tornado just touches down one foot in front of your car and sweeps you off to Kansas. These issues can be avoided by simply turning on your T.V. in the morning or afternoon or picking up a newpaper. Save yourself the trouble of paying $70,000 for a car just to get up-to-date weather reports. Subscribe to a newspaper or turn on your T.V. or do both.
06-19-2008, 03:55 PM
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Now, seriously, The 3.7 might be a nice upgrade. If my MDX is any measure the tranny is an improvement and the 3.7 does have significantly more grunt. If geared well I wouldn't be surprised if the new car did knock off a few ticks of the 0-60 times. Some have quoted the new TL will actually have the same engine and it is rated at 310HP. That would be a nice bump for the RL. The other question is, should they discontinue the RL entirely when the new TL shows up? There will be a SHAWD TL with the 3.7 engine thus what will be the selling point of the RL anymore????? Personally the only reason I swapped my TL for the RL was SHAWD and its overwhelming superiority in the snow!
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