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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Timing belt service

Can someone please list what should be included in the timing belt service?
I've searched but only get bits and pieces and not really full list.

I asked at Honda dealer and I was given timing belt service price of $899.95 and they did confirm it includes water pump - but did not state any of pulleys, tensioners, or what else falls into the complete timing belt service.

Local mechanic (former Acura dealer mechanic) who specifically works on Honda and Acuras in his own shop has quoted me $900 for everything (timing belt, water pump, tensioners, rollers, pulleys and all belts (serpentine, alternator belt, etc) ... he suggests doing the tune-up at the same time for additional price of I dunno maybe $100 - he did not specify... Anyhow, besides all this for $900 is tune-up recommended while doing the timing belt?

I am confident in this guy as I went there before, but want to be sure that I am given right information and to expect right amount of service for pretty much the same price.

Seeing prices of $700 here on the forums I wonder if that was only timing belt and water pump without other smaller things.

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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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As far as I know, the job usually includes the timing belt, tensioner and water pump. The serpentine belt. alternator belt and the tune-up are separate, and I've personally never heard of them being companion services to the timing belt job.

"Recommended" only if your car is due for them or the belts look deteriorated on their own.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 04:40 AM
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The indy is right....all belts should be replaced. I believe the "tune up" is spark plug replacement....nothing more. Good luck.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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I believe plugs and timing belt are both done at the 105k interval so the recommendation is correct. The Honda dealers don't include the tensioner unless it is leaking, but it should be changed anyway since its all opened up. $899 seems a bit high, but us still cheaper than Acura.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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Thanks for the replies to everyone so far: I am waiting on confirmation what he meant by all the belts - maybe he is throwing some stuff in to win business (fingers crossed) - but it does sound too good to be true.

Tune-up I will likely do at the same time as I plan to keep this car for long after this service is done
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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I have a similar question. My RL is currently at 102k miles so this has been on my mind. I'm a little down on my luck right now so I was thinking of just buying a timing belt water pump kit and spark plugs from autozone or O'Reilly and having a friend do the work at a discounted price. The kit includes water pump, timing belt, hydraulic timing belt actuator, camshaft belt tensioner, camshaft belt Idler. Is there anything I should know about me doing this on my own? Will I need anything else?
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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^^^^There is a You Tube video that describes, in great detail, how to do this job. A few special tools, but can be done if you've worked on cars at all. Check it out.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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^thanks!
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Ok, so I confirmed what he includes in his $900 quote (local mechanic) ...

Timing belt, Water pump, tensioners, pulleys, rollers and it does include serpentine belt. Tune-up however he told me would be additional about $200 with parts+labor, but then there is some kind of difference between early 2006 RL and late 2006 year version, because Acura supposedly changed something and when tune-up is done for late 2006 year version it costs $100 more.

Mine was sold in 2006 of May so I am sure I have "old" version RL - tune-up related condition.

So, so far it is looking at 1100-1200 with tune-up and timing belt with labor and all OEM parts.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Hey there.

Nobody mentions about the belts sold by Amazon.
Aisin Timing Belt Kit etc.

Is there any reason about not using them?
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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stop hijacking the thread!
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rl015
stop hijacking the thread!
What do you mean?

I've just asked a simple question.

Is this forum not about sharing experiences?
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Been covered in another thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-2005-2012-76/all-who-spending-300-timing-belt-kits-888928/
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rl015
Ok, so I confirmed what he includes in his $900 quote (local mechanic) ...

Timing belt, Water pump, tensioners, pulleys, rollers and it does include serpentine belt. Tune-up however he told me would be additional about $200 with parts+labor, but then there is some kind of difference between early 2006 RL and late 2006 year version, because Acura supposedly changed something and when tune-up is done for late 2006 year version it costs $100 more.

Mine was sold in 2006 of May so I am sure I have "old" version RL - tune-up related condition.

So, so far it is looking at 1100-1200 with tune-up and timing belt with labor and all OEM parts.
What do you mean by "rollers" and whats the difference in the mid year change is it different plugs cause the only "tune-up" you need to do on a coil on plug car is spark plugs.(you could adjust the valves but i doubt theres anything wrong with them)
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Sounds like a quote from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Türk
What do you mean?

I've just asked a simple question.

Is this forum not about sharing experiences?
No hard feelings man, I am just pointing out that when a thread is posted it is a thread (new topic) not a category for everyone to drop by and ask questions about what the thread is about
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.RL
What do you mean by "rollers" and whats the difference in the mid year change is it different plugs cause the only "tune-up" you need to do on a coil on plug car is spark plugs.(you could adjust the valves but i doubt theres anything wrong with them)
What the rollers are, I have no clue - did not really research each part individually (at least not yet ) - but it looks like rollers are mentioned in the link that someone posted above.

Tune-up wise, he did not really state there was different parts, but maybe something makes it harder to get to spark-plugs on the later 2006 model.
I will stop by the shop and ask the guy myself for more clarification.

Experience wise I do know he worked on Acura dealership for at least a few years as I believe he had bunch certifications and awards on his wall of the waiting room - but, beyond the point:
the way he gave me the quote, and how dealership gave me their quote it makes this mechanic GOLDEN SERVICE MECHANIC SHOP vs dealerships lame not interested in nothing whatsoever service... so yeah
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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i always go with the place i feel has better customer service and I work at a dealership. id just be wary of a none dealer and aftermarket parts. i never put much faith in aftermarket parts
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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I just got this done on my 09' at an Acura dealer in MN. Here's my breakdown

Timing Belt - 65
Coolant - 20
Labor - 530
Serpentine Belt - 50 (optional)
H20 Pump - 180 (optional, but no brainer)
Tire rotate - 25 (requested)
Coupon - (75)

Total - 868 (w/tax, etc.)

They mentioned the tensioner would be replaced if it was leaking, mine was not.

They also gave me a 2014 RLX to drive for 24hrs. I'll comment on that in a separate post.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 07:22 AM
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You should have had the tensioner replaced, leaking or not. If its not leaking now, it will in the future and its the labor that's a killer.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rlerman
You should have had the tensioner replaced, leaking or not. If its not leaking now, it will in the future and its the labor that's a killer.
Hopefully it holds another 100k! Wagers?
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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In Europe, timing belt service is 75.000 miles (120.000 kilometres)

Has anyone experinced any damage caused by belt breakage?
I'm really so consfused about when to change the belt.
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 06:04 AM
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I have heard of people ruining their engines because the belt broke, but never directly known anyone that had this happen. It is a real risk though. I've seen recommendations anywhere from 60k to 105k mi.

Personally, I have done this at 105k mi on my old 03 V6 accord and just did it at 101k on my RL. Excessively cold or warm climates are recommended to do this service earlier. Where I live, winter is -30C to -5C for a solid 3-4 months, but local mechanics have never suggested needing to go earlier than the normal interval. How warm is it in the part of Turkey you live in?

I know people have gone much longer than 100k miles without a problem. I don't see how it is worth that risk. Going beyond 60 or 75k is a risk I would personally take, unless there is some difference in european models that I am unaware of.

I'm no expert, but 105k mi seems to be the norm on the US side.
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The obvious answer is that no one can predict when the belt will fail, and the same can be said for tesioners, water pumps, and gaskets.

So, either you conform and have an issue free vehicle or you chance it to save a few dollars and run the risk of ruining the engine.

Kinda like buying full coverage insurance vs liability.
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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I had my replaced at 105k now i'm close to 200k. When you think I should have it replaced again?
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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Every 105k, so 210k.


Turk, members here have reported strong belts with little wear at 120k miles. One member has had his belt break, but it wasn't due to old age. More likely it was a defective belt. He replaced his whole engine himself. xplicitDX I think. He lives in Las Vegas.

While the temperature extremes can play a part in it, 99.9% of people are going to see that kind of climate, and I think cold will wreak more havoc than hot.

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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 03:38 PM
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@tdurick

The previous owner was from Istanbul. Istanbul is very similar to Los Angeles.

Now I'm in Izmir the temperature never drops below 0.

@Heavy and oo7spy,

Thanks
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Here we go. DXplicitOne...
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-2005-2012-76/snapped-timing-belt-bent-valves-866518/
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
Great thread
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 03:26 AM
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honda recommends timing belt change at 100k miles
and at 60k miles if driven in mountains or extreme weather for kb1 acura rl
basic timing belt change in manual includes
timing belt , spark plugs , head valve inspect and adjust (very important)
water pump is no brainer
inspect the tensioner and replace if leaking is printed in manual

i did the tensioner and all rollers , replacing drive belt for ac power steering and alternator is easy so just inpect if cracks are visible replace
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I got a quote from local acura dealer in Atlanta ga for $910 including taxes for everything listed here. Local honda dealer quoted me $825 but doesn't include tensioner. Only inspection. Can I expect better from another Acura dealer? Between these two I would go with Acura to get tensioner changed out plus they will provide me with a loaner. Thoughts?
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by baboya96
I got a quote from local acura dealer in Atlanta ga for $910 including taxes for everything listed here. Local honda dealer quoted me $825 but doesn't include tensioner. Only inspection. Can I expect better from another Acura dealer? Between these two I would go with Acura to get tensioner changed out plus they will provide me with a loaner. Thoughts?
If these are your only two options, the tensioner and the loaner seem well worth it to me. I don't speak from any special expertise, but my impression is that the tensioner is part of the recommended service, and I personally think it's negligent not to replace it as long as you're in there.

As for other Acura dealers, they customarily charge more than Honda dealers for comparable services. That price sounds fair to me, and I wouldn't expect to beat it except maybe at an independent garage (which is often the best overall option anyway).
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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Called another local Acura dealer and got a higher quote. I'm going to see if the first dealer would make a deal at $900 even and throw in synthetic blend engine oil change at the same time.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:30 AM
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Hey all - very valuable information given - thank you!
Since my last post, I have called two Acura Dealerships (besides Honda giving me 895$ quote for timing belt and water pump replacement)... and here is what I got:

Dealer #1 - 1385$ for timing belt and water pump replacement - nothing else included other than inspection
Dealer #2 - 1600$ for timing belt and water pump replacement and tune-up. Nothing else included.

I will be taking it to the certified Honda mechanic shop who is doing all for 1100$:
Timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt, alternator belt, spark-plugs replacement, tensioners, pulleys, rollers + all parts + all labor.

I tried to negotiate with the dealerships and ask to at least come down bit more to match closer to mechanic's estimate - no go...

I am in Chicagoland - so yeah - out of luck getting dealer to do it under $1000

Will do it probably in the next two weeks or so.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Hey rl015, in chicago area give drew at the pit shop in Libertyville a call
he is a former Acura dealer mechanic
he runs specials on timing belts quite often.
good customer service.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gogogoldrl
Hey rl015, in chicago area give drew at the pit shop in Libertyville a call
he is a former Acura dealer mechanic
he runs specials on timing belts quite often.
good customer service.
Small world - that is exactly who will be doing the timing belt; already reserved Saturday morning for all
Thanks!
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Got my work done this past weekend. Paid $910 including taxes. All the services listed above. Got a loaner as well. Overall very happy.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 12:38 AM
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Glad to report that all is done and done with the sum up of $1150 total which included:

Timing belt service +
Water Pump
Timing Idler Pulley
Timing Tensioner Pulley
Timing Hydraulic Tensioner
Serpentine Belt
Engine Cooland

and

Engine Spark Plugs (Denso)

I know it may not be possible to see such different in driving but it may be that sixth sense that yees car drives smoother and better

Great service, great turn-around and happy with the price as well. Drew rocks!
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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Glad to hear all worked out well,
Chicago prices can be higher than other areas.
Drew has good customer service.
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