spoon RL and the Thunderhill 25 hour race

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Old 12-15-2006, 10:21 PM
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spoon RL and the Thunderhill 25 hour race

http://shutterflick.com/motorsport_thunderhill.html

there are a few Spoon RL pictures there. Very nice pics.
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Glowing red brake discs are scary. What's with the elephant trunk exhaust?
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The car is very loud.
Old 12-16-2006, 10:49 PM
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Info on Spoon RL

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=108775

Got that RL down to 2750 pounds, but left the motor surprisingly near stock. Also used the original brakes but with a special motorcycle brake fluid that handles high temperatures. Lots of interesting stuff about making the RL into a racer.
Old 12-17-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wstr75
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=108775

Got that RL down to 2750 pounds, but left the motor surprisingly near stock. Also used the original brakes but with a special motorcycle brake fluid that handles high temperatures. Lots of interesting stuff about making the RL into a racer.
Thank you for this article. It was a fascinating glimpse for a me into the world of race preparation, made doubly meaningful because it was about a car that we own, and perhaps understand a little bit more than most other cars.

I was surprised at the robustness of the stock brakes, but then with 4000 lbs, I guess they need to be pretty robust.

The statement about the 4 piston brake calipers front and rear made me walk out to the garage to take a look at the car. If we have four in the front, they are definitely not four in the back. Further research on the internet yielded this for the 2006 US Spec RL:

"12.6-inch cast-iron ventilated front rotors use aluminum 4-piston calipers. These multi-piston calipers are extremely rigid, and are derived from racing applications. In back, 12.2-inch cast-iron ventilated discs attach to their hub with lightweight aluminum collets and are gripped by one-piston aluminum calipers."

http://hondanews.com/CatID3007?mid=2...asc&archives=t

Do they get something different in other parts of the world?

Regardless, sorry to hear the car did not last, and would like to see it race again. 2700 lbs is an amazing diet?

Thanks again for a great article.
Old 12-17-2006, 09:48 PM
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The RL did finish the race this time. For some reason this was a second 2006 race at Thunderhill.

See http://www.nasa25hour.com/ for more info.
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Looks like the TL was typically getting around 4 to 10 seconds faster per lap than the RL.
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TL is a very good handling car. Pushed to the limits the TL is more inspiring over the RL any day.

This just proves it even more.
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Wstr75, there is no TL shown, I think you meant TSX.
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There is a TL there. Look at the pictures.
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Originally Posted by wstr75
Looks like the TL was typically getting around 4 to 10 seconds faster per lap than the RL.
Pretty important to note lap times are often as much a reflection of the driver's skill as the car's capabilities.

A better driver - or one who knows the track better, or whatever - can often jump in the same car and turn laps much quicker than another driver.
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Whose TL is that ? I thought you guys said spoon TL, my bad.
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All are professional drivers on that course. Driver skill has a lot to do with it, but definitely the car as well.
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come on guys, keep your arguements in another thread "I need to know the truth" Peace.

By the way, my Audi Q7 thread got locked! I was going to post my RL+Q7 pictures but now I can't!
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Originally Posted by wstr75
Looks like the TL was typically getting around 4 to 10 seconds faster per lap than the RL.
I do not doubt that the TL is faster, but the article also said the RL hit a piece of debris early on, and damaged a wiring harness. They could not diagnose the problem and raced it limp home mode anyway which turned out not to be a good idea because they seriously damaged the engine. Can't imagine racing anything in limp home mode.
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