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Old 07-25-2010, 09:01 PM
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why dont u get a local tuner shop to order u one?
Old 07-25-2010, 09:03 PM
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i forgot to mention. don't call people names on here, that might get u band from this forum..........
Old 07-25-2010, 09:50 PM
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After taking his money and running, I think he deserves to call him whatever he wants.

Your in cali man....I'm pretty sure you can find some local shop to get you one or custom make you an exhaust out of mandrel bent pieces.
Old 07-26-2010, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugen RL
So basically, nothing's happened. What a fuckin scum bag. What's the best option for an exhaust? Can I get one custom made? Not trying to risk $1600 again by buying online.
Tried to contact him twice on my own with no results as well. I'm mad for you as $1600 is no small amount of money. Small claims court time, BBB reports, etc.

Old 07-27-2010, 11:04 PM
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It is very unfortunate but all too common. But, your saving grace is what others have used successfully elsewhere. Find him on every automotive forum out there and then start posting the events there. It will take you a few hours, but nobody that is into the automotive scene like himself will want his name tossed in such a fashion all over the Internet.

Find out what he drives, his preferred forums, sponsors,etc. Be professional, just the same as you started this forum. He has already discredited himself, now make it known to the entire automotive world.

This recently happened over on CL and sure enough the guy hunted him down and started posting on the punks favorite websites. He paid up.

If you really want to punk him, get his real name and start sending emails to his real life friends on Facebook, Myspace, school bulletin board, etc. Trust me, he does not want the world to know what kind of person he is and what is he going to do, sue you? Also, do not forget the IRS, sounds like he received some none reported income as far as you know. Call them and file with them as well, if they audit him, and they will do a cursory audit at first, you get 10% of what the IRS reaps once they really give him a field audit. File a police report first and try to locate others in the same boat as well. Send all of this to the IRS and your case is even stronger if he is operating w/o a license. Don't leave out his home state tax board also. Whatever you do, do not let him get away as there are many avenues to take to really put the hurt of him. Trust me, I have done it and payback sure does feel good!

He used Internet against you, now use the same against him and do not give up.

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Old 07-27-2010, 11:09 PM
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If I recall correctly, Sam sold his RL to get a GT-R, well that's what he claimed his next project would be. So I'd see if he's on GT-R forums.
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think he was on some subaru forums as well?
Old 07-28-2010, 01:01 AM
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If I were you, just keep on constantly contacting him at any means. I actually brought a Mugen spoiler for my RL without any problem. Reason why I got it from him is it because it was fairly cheaper than Kingmotorsport.

So just keep on contacting him to get your money back.

Originally Posted by Mugen RL
So basically, nothing's happened. What a fuckin scum bag. What's the best option for an exhaust? Can I get one custom made? Not trying to risk $1600 again by buying online.
Old 07-28-2010, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 470hpGS400
It is very unfortunate but all too common. But, your saving grace is what others have used successfully elsewhere. Find him on every automotive forum out there and then start posting the events there. It will take you a few hours, but nobody that is into the automotive scene like himself will want his name tossed in such a fashion all over the Internet.

Find out what he drives, his preferred forums, sponsors,etc. Be professional, just the same as you started this forum. He has already discredited himself, now make it known to the entire automotive world.

This recently happened over on CL and sure enough the guy hunted him down and started posting on the punks favorite websites. He paid up.

If you really want to punk him, get his real name and start sending emails to his real life friends on Facebook, Myspace, school bulletin board, etc. Trust me, he does not want the world to know what kind of person he is and what is he going to do, sue you? Also, do not forget the IRS, sounds like he received some none reported income as far as you know. Call them and file with them as well, if they audit him, and they will do a cursory audit at first, you get 10% of what the IRS reaps once they really give him a field audit. File a police report first and try to locate others in the same boat as well. Send all of this to the IRS and your case is even stronger if he is operating w/o a license. Don't leave out his home state tax board also. Whatever you do, do not let him get away as there are many avenues to take to really put the hurt of him. Trust me, I have done it and payback sure does feel good!

He used Internet against you, now use the same against him and do not give up.
that's a good idea, i'm going to start going on various forums and expose him to everyone. wish i knew his full name, could do a lot more damage that way. thanks, everyone, for your time and concern. truly appreciate it.
Old 07-28-2010, 09:12 PM
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remember to keep it civil and semi proffesional. Dont want to come off bad and get banned before you get your point across to either get the product or a refund from this guy.

Threads like just his user name will probably get deleted, while threads asking peoples experiances with him, or simply stating you were cheated by him and want to resolve this issue will come across better.
Old 03-30-2011, 12:53 AM
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i ordered the aem intake from visionary racing, i have still not recieved it
Old 03-30-2011, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 2ltrgsr
i ordered the aem intake from visionary racing, i have still not recieved it
Oh man. When did you order the intake ? Did you order before or after you read this thread? Hope you are able to get your intake, or at least a refund. Good Luck.
Old 03-31-2011, 12:03 PM
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I think VR should be on the blacklist. Maybe we should make a new thread on which independent aftermarket shop is good and which is bad or give ratings.
Old 03-31-2011, 12:07 PM
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I'd be surprised if there wasn't already one.
Old 03-31-2011, 01:22 PM
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I have pulled his site's whois info for you. His full name is Sam Rast. There is also a different number listed: 718.262.9351

Good luck!!

Registrant:
Visionary Racing

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Visionary Racing, New York 11435
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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: VISIONARYRACING.COM
Created on: 06-Apr-02
Expires on: 06-Apr-13
Last Updated on: 22-Mar-11

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Rast, Sam info@visionaryracing.com
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:34 PM
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Normally posting someone's personal information isn't tolerated on this site, but I hope it's kept on here for the sake of OP and 2ltrgsr.
Old 03-31-2011, 01:37 PM
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100% agreed. I've seen this option on other forums.

Originally Posted by KB1Spec
I think VR should be on the blacklist. Maybe we should make a new thread on which independent aftermarket shop is good and which is bad or give ratings.
Old 03-31-2011, 01:40 PM
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I'm sure mod will erase the post with personal information.
Old 03-31-2011, 01:57 PM
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It's technically NOT personal information, since you can get it right from www.godaddy.com. This info is considered public info, so I don't think it should be removed. Click on the following link to see the actual posting on godaddy.com: http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.as...NARYRACING.COM
Old 03-31-2011, 07:19 PM
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so the OP never got his exhaust and still is out $1600? that's messed up!
Old 03-31-2011, 08:28 PM
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Thats nuts i'd probably lose my head and do something stupid. Guess i wont be buying from visionary.
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yeah i put a dispute on paypal for it

Hopefully it turns out for the better
Old 04-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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wow, i can't believe it. that sucks. i hope you guys (mugen rl & 2ltrgsr) get your money back ! his acurazine screen name is "touge". maybe u can pm (private message) him ?

here is an old tread he started back in 2006: https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-photograph-gallery-91/some-pics-yesterdays-rl-meet-10-22-a-498392/

this guy sam, also owns the website, http://www.strikingvisions.com

maybe somebody can look up his whois info on this website also.

he mainly works on subarus. so i bet you can find him on the subaru forums.
Old 04-02-2011, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Normally posting someone's personal information isn't tolerated on this site, but I hope it's kept on here for the sake of OP and 2ltrgsr.
This information is public domain as it can be found via whois easily.

We are also reading only one side of the story here, though the side we are reading is pretty awful. I'd be LIVID if I lost $1600.
Old 04-09-2011, 11:28 AM
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wow... good thing i came in here and read this... sorry for your loss... i was contemplating on buying some things for my car. small things. but i rather not...

last year i wanted to buy the same exhaust from them but i was scared to spend that much money on a shop that i didn't know. So i went to my custom shop here in Chicago. And i got my Custom exhaust done by them for cheaper...

i got an exhaust that runs from the jpipe 2.5 piping all the way to the back. with 2 resonators to try and keep it shhhh! lol...


but man good luck amigo...


any updates?
Old 04-10-2011, 06:20 PM
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i got my refund from paypal
Old 04-10-2011, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ltrgsr
i got my refund from paypal
Very nice, glad it worked out for you.
Old 04-11-2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ltrgsr
i got my refund from paypal

That's good to hear. I hope Mugen RL gets his money back also !
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