Ok, have some new MTEC super whites, but cannot figure out how to install. Anyone have a link to share w/ instructions for accessing the fog lights? thanks!

 

very easy from under the car, I have mine from www.hoen-usa.com. Perfect match with HID.

 

Unscrew the panels from underneath and they lift up (you don't have to remove entirely). The driver's side one can be a bit difficult, but keep at it. Be sure to disconnect before you try to remove. There is instructions in the manual as well.

 

Thanks. Forget about the manual......

 

Sorry for reviving an old thread; I don't know if it's looked down upon on this forum. But this was the only thread I could find about fog light replacement. Is there any more information on this? You don't need to take the bumper off?

 

See this thread ---> Bumper

 

When you do it, take photos and do a DIY for posting in the garage.

I will be doing a JDM yellow bulb conversion in a few weeks. If you have not done it by then, I will do one. I have had the bulbs all summer, but no time to do anything.

 

Hope you have it done before my bulbs arrive, because I'm too scared to do it myself

 

Its very easy. I just put HIDS in the fogs. Remove the 4 clips and 3 screws from under the front of the car. Remove the 2 clips from in the wheel well and pull the lining towards the wheel a bit. The plastic under the fog light will now be able to fold back with easy access to the fog light. Disconnect the wire before trying to twist out the stock light bulb.

 

I don't get it. Where are the clips and screws? Are you talking about removing the bumper or just the fog light?

 

The clips and screws are under the car attached to the bumper. If you look under the car you will see them right on the edge of the bumper underneath.

 

You'll simply remove a few of the poppets (a plastic screw you'll remove with a phillips, before popping out the plastic socket it came out of -- when you put them back, you just press in the socket, then press in the screw.) and then lift the plastic panels so you can reach into the area behind the foglight.

On the passenger side this is very easy. On the drivers side, you will run into the intake tube and will have to contort a little. Either way, you unplug the lights, then rotate the bulbs out, swap in the new, plug it back to the power and then slap your poppets back into the undertray. Done.

 

I've just put in the LED fog lights. One of my fog light bulb burnt out so I got this H-11 white 68 SMD LED from E-bay. the passenger side is easy to install.... the driver side on the other hand is a big PITA because of the air intake box in the way.... here are some pix

 

I want a TL and a RL

 

I must have misunderstood before because I thought we could not do LEDs in the fogs for some reason. I just bought some Lexan to replace the glass on one of my broken fogs so I think I'll upgrade to LEDs at the same time. It looks nice!

 

The LED fogs look great but how about function? Do they still throw the same amount of light forward and to the sides? Where did you buy them and what is the model number. Thanks!

 

Not sure about LED's but 12k top and fogs are awesome... I changed mine this week.. Makes the car look even more unique at night...

 

I got these from e-bay (vision-technology). These bulbs are pretty good.... but I think there are new ones that comes with 120 SMD LEDs which is gonna be even better illuminated.... the reason i went with LEDs is for their look, color, life expectancy, temperature and power consumption.

 

has anyone put these in the fog lights? i have them, going to put them in, ill take pics if they work

 

Should be interesting. I cannot believe they have near the lumen output of incandescent H11 bulbs, so they might work for DRL, but not for fogs...personally I would not want to lose the fog capability...Yellow fogs really work in bad weather.

 

Weird... I'm surprised most people aren't doing H.I.D. Yellow Foglights? I just bought some in OC for 60.00 with a lifetime warranty for 55watt 3000K.

My understanding is that in terms of performance, the lower the kelvin (k) the higher the ability it has for cutting through dense fog....? Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

You are correct, the yellow fogs are the best for use in fog but, unfortunately, you cannot turn them on without the headlights so they become useless due to the headlights lighting up the fog.
A note regarding LED's - their luminous output is very low so they are for other peoples looks only because you won't be able to tell if they are on or not.
Best, cheapest option is to buy 3000K H9 85watt bulbs and modify them for the H11 socket. This is if you want the bulbs to be useful.

 

I'm sure LED technology will continue to advance and soon we will have the best of both worlds, high output and color temp.

 

Just a note on LED's: there are plenty of high-end LED units out there that punch out obscene amounts of light. I've got a single-diode unit that emits more than 600 lumens and there are multi-diode units punching out over 1800 on the market.

The catch is, these aren't as cheap, so I haven't seen any produced in the aftermarket headlight world. They also put out heat...get HOT like an incandescent bulb.

 

whats the difference betweet the H9 bulbs and the H11? why would the H9 be better? im thinking about doing HID in spring and im still deciding to get either 3000k or 4300.

 

1300 lumins for H11, 2100 for H9.

 

As seen from my previous post, even 1800 is not much and are hundreds of $'s each!

For those who are not that scientific then the following link may be very enlightening: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html

 

interesting, so is this mod easy to do?

 

Cut the plastic tab inbetween the 2 conductor pins and then file one of the tabs that mate it. If you take the old bulb out with a new one to compare it takes about 5 mins per bulb.

 

Daniel Stern links are good ones, but I don't think he's updated to cover the new generation of LED's, has he?

As you may have noted from my post above, the Cree and other super LED's are pretty expensive, but are any even available for retrofit into incandescent automobile fixtures?

 

The link is a bit old but the obsession with high kelvin is explained well for those who want lights to be lights and not just eye candy.
I think that Audi and Infiniti has both experimented with LED headlights but they are of dubious advantage and still very costly. Infiniti (think Q45) lost a battle with the NHTSA/DOT with the lamp definition - an LED headlight has more than one light source and it became a technical definition issue with a mandate of "each headlight has to be a single element".

 

+1 on the HID in the fogs. I had MTECs and they definitely look good, but switched to DDMs and swaped the HIDs for the low bulbs to ensure a match. Went with 5000k, they are a little blue-ish. If I were to do it again, I would go with the 4500k. 3000k yellow is better with fog, but I like the look of the white better. Plus, I don't have to deal with fog that often.

 

When the higher end cars showed up with HID's it was an envy of many to have better lighting and the "look" of an expensive car. Now the roads are full of cars and trucks with 6500 K 100 watt bulbs that glare to the opposing traffic and don't work that well for the driver.
Blue has gone rice - it's time to revert to common sense and the physics of lighting.

 

Yep, stick with the 4500K range unless you are going for yellow in the fogs.