23109VC

Look at this video I shot and give me your idea...what is wrong with my car?

I am floored 100% all through 2nd and 3rd...yet as the rpms near 5500 in 3rd gear you can see the rpms stop climbing, actually decrease, then slowly increase again. This is with the throttle at 100%... What is this??

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Maintenanceman

Seems to me that also with second gear, after 5000rpm, there should be visible "kick" ?

HEAVY_RL

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LoL so Vtakkk is like NOS now?

I'm excited to read the responses on this one

justnspace

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have you checked your oil level?

EL19

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I really hope you arent losing oil pressure somewhere. Has your oil light ever come on? What type of oil do you use? How many miles on the car?

Ballinger

I see that! Hmm.

The manual says that if your RL "learns" you've cheaped out on new tires for it, the computer may become depressed and manifest in a variety of different manners. Perhaps this is one?

Hadda do it.

What the heck are you WOT for? This is a grandpa car. Slow down!

HEAVY_RL

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Can I suggest a transmission re-learn and a comparison vid?

253RL

WOT! FTW! Granny shifting non double clutching... Clutch pack? torque converter? It's sad that most RL's probably do this but owners don't know it because well they are afraid of vtec!

23109VC

My oil is always changed by the dealer - so I assume they are using the right stuff! I did ask if they are using full synthetic or a blend and I was told it is the basic "synthetic blend". If I want full synthetic, there is an extra charge.

I have NEVER had my oil light come on saying I have low oil.

I have noticed that if I push the car over and over on the freeway, that it seems to help and the car STOPS this hesitation.

I have had the car into the dealer for this and they said that they didn't want to replicate it becaue they woudl have to drive the car too fast..... so I shot this video to show them so they can't say "it doesn't do it".

if my dealer can't resolve this at the next visit - I"m going to try a different Acura dealer and see if a different tech can fix it. this is not a one time fluke..the car does this a LOT...and it's annoying... somethign is out of whack..eithe ra sensor..or something else is going on that it preenting the car from running properly.... i'll keep you posted.

Ballinger - yes, my car is mad that I didn't get the super sports... my wife however, is happy... honestly, my wife wasn't really thrilled that I"m buying tires so soon... since my existing tires only have 15k on them and I just spend $1000 on tires a little over a year ago... i'm hoping to sell my current setup and recoup some money...

as to my 5500rpm hesitation.. anyone else have an idea what is causing this? my car also sometimes makes a weird clicking noise that I notice when it revs past 5500 rpm... which I think is the car not fully engaging into VTEc..or not going into VTEC at all... when the outside temperatures are HIGH.. like 75-80 or more.. it does NOT do it... if it's cold outside, it does do it.

coudl this be due to bad oil? oil that is too thick? too much oil? coudl my dealership be retards and putting in the wrong oil or something?

thanks.

getakey

I remember threads about this issue long ago. I cannot remember the resolution if any.
Have you searched?

EL19

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For the record an oil light doesn't indicate low oil but low oil PRESSURE. I didnt watch the video but something is causing your car to struggle. Whether it be clogged cats, bad vtec solenoids, etc. What kind of gas have you been using? how many miles on the car? What kind of maintenance have you done to the car lately? if any

23109VC

there is another thread with a video... of an RL doing the EXACT same thing... but no resolutoin was offered in the thread...

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=854364

maybe it's just some kind of bug that is in all the RLs???

why don't some of you try to replicate this on your cars and see if it does it or not? all you do it put it in manual mode and then got to WOT in 3rd and see if you get smooth power deliver or if you get this weird little hesitation too..

maybe it's just a design defect in the RL? my wife has an 07 MDX..and while there areno paddle shifters... you can put it into manual mode and there is ZERO problems with smooth power delivery.... so I can't imagine that the car is "supposed" to do this...

Maintenanceman

Came home from work a while ago, had to test that thing, mine does the same, repeated it about 5 times, only in third gear. Strange.
My oil change is soon thou.

EL19

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After watching the video that seems to be ecu related

JDMCRX

Watched the video need a better view of the tach and speedo. Almost seems like convertor locking up hesitation but thats not it in 3rd gear . I see that when this problem is happening the car is still climbing up in the rpms.

BDoggPrelude

I would say check your oil level first off. It could be just low enough that the car's velocity at higher speeds is causing the oil to slosh to one side making the car think it is low on oil. I know that in my Prelude if the oil was even slightly low the car would basically go into limp mode and exhibit similar behavior. It was basically a limp mode that wouldn't allow the car to go into higher RPM's. It's the car's way of self preservation.

neuronbob

There was a thread on this long ago, back when I had my RL. I was able to easily replicate this behavior in my RL. I think it's "normal" or at least "not unexpected". Dealers were involved IIRC and no resolution was found.

BDoggPrelude

I've taken my car to redline in 3rd gear more times than I care to remember and have never had this issue. I don't think this should just be written off as normal behavior.

Maintenanceman

Here is my video about it.

typeR

your video clearly shows a fuel cut at 4950 which is the vtec change over point ... for me this always was a case of low oil level ... BTW how fast is 5500 in third ? what is top speed governed at in the RL ?

typeR

ill have to watch at home ... cant watch youtube at work

Maintenanceman

Why only at third gear?

23109VC

I tried putting my car in just auto....then did this and zero hesitation. It just revs up normally. Weird. I never drive the car hard in auto mode and never really tried it in auto only node....so apparently this ONLY happens in manual mode. Why would that happen??

HEAVY_RL

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Isnt there always a delay in manual mode?
Also you are introducing the variable of operator error here too.

Maintenanceman

5500rpm at third gear is 150km/h

Maintenanceman

There is small delay but that problem point is not when you have just changed the gear.

Ballinger

Yeah, that's weird.

Maintenanceman, you should Photoshop your speedometer to read "MPH" and really cause some excitment. 160mph in 3rd? That guy must have a cold air intake!

HEAVY_RL

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But it could be, if you wait to long to change a gear there is a small delay in the shift.

Maintenanceman

If you start from slow speed with third gear and then floor it, it happens.
No gear change involved.

Mine doesnt do it with "auto", just like 23109VC says.

HEAVY_RL

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I see, if it happens at low speed thats means its not a Vtec problem.

Maintenanceman

No no, it happens only in those revs and third gear, speed is something like over 100km/h.
Just saying that gear changing and delay of it dont have anything to do with it.
I dont know how to be clearer, lets imagine this:
You are driving third gear on, lets say 60km/h (sorry about using km/h) and then hit the gas pedal to the floor and keep it there. When revs and speed gets to that specific point then this hesitation and dropping of revs happens, you have the gas floored all the time.

ichi d

This already has been discussed check out this tread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=3rd+gear

I also have experienced this from time to time.

typeR

i would think this would be RPM dependant not MPH put it in D2 and hold and accelerate through should do same thing

typeR

so ive read some more comments on this same thing and does the OP here agree that the car it self isnt accutally hesitating thats its more just the tach ?

mentioned a couple times my car would do this little blip at vtec change over if it were low on oil ...the lower the oil the more pronounced to the extent that it wouldnt switch to hi pro cam at all ...


here's my video listen for the blip in begining

http://www.streetfire.net/video/sorr...een_173657.htm

oo7spy

Manual says 93 mph (150 kph) is the top speed the car will allow in third. 8 mph (13 kph) is the lowest. Page 353.

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Merge is imminent.

HEAVY_RL

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Tested mine today with the same result... The same thing happens with motorcycles and I'd be surprised if this was fixed with anything short of a change in the pc.

oo7spy

Wish I hadn't got a speeding ticket last month. I'd be all over adding more samples to the survey.

OP, I know we've asked you this before. WHAT THE HELL ARE TOU DOING HITTING 90 MPH ON A REGULAR BASIS?!?

BDoggPrelude

I did try this last night in both auto and manual modes. RPM's climb smoothly all the way to redline in 3rd gear.

I noticed nobody has commented yet on their oil levels. Have you checked? You can't rely on the computerized oil percentage readout. It only counts the miles, since it was reset. It does not actually gauge the oil level...

HEAVY_RL

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Oil level is solid here... it is not mechanical.