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Old 07-15-2012, 08:35 AM
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2007 RL or 2009 RL

Is there a big difference between the 2007 RL and the 2009 Rl. I have a 2007 with tech but i went on cars.com to see if how many rl's were in the area. I came across a 2009 rl with tech for only 25k. So im suppose to go check it out today at 3pm. The 2009 is black on black like my 07 but im trying to look past that hideous beak. Is it worth it ?????
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_R...ange_.28KB2.29

2009 mid-model change (KB2)

For the 2009 model year, the RL received an extensive mid-model change (MMC), and made its introduction at the Chicago Auto Show on February 6, 2008, billed as "the most extensive Acura MMC ever". The new sedan was designated KB2 in the VIN codes, differentiating it from the 2005–2008 KB1 chassis VIN code. The revised sedan was released on July 1, 2008 to dealerships. The engine is upgraded to 3.7L with 300 hp (220 kW). While on paper, the engine may seem to be the same unit as shared with the Acura MDX, it is actually a variant that introduces, for the first time ever on an SOHC Honda V6, an implementation of the Honda VTEC variable valve train technology on the exhaust side for improved horsepower and torque. Heretofore, all previous SOHC Honda V6 engines with VTEC used the technology on the intake side only.[17] Engine emissions were reduced to meet the stricter U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) TIER 2 – BIN 5 and California Air Resources Board ULEV-2 standards. Implementation of the SH-AWD was adjusted for earlier intervention and a greater rear-wheel bias for better handling dynamics.
The MMC RL suspension was upgraded with higher-rate coil springs, larger diameter anti-sway bars and stiffer bushings all around.[18] The MMC RL was equipped with a new larger front anti-sway bar of hollow construction, 30 mm diameter overall with a 6.5 mm wall thickness, and a larger rear solid anti-sway bar, 19 mm in diameter.[19] The pre-MMC models sported a solid 29 mm front and 17 mm rear sway bar.[20]
Standard 18- x 8-inch seven-spoke alloy wheels with 245/45-18 tires replaced the previous years' 17- x 8-inch five-spoke offerings for not only the Base and Tech package models, but also for the highest trim level, the ACC/CMBS equipped model. Previous years' ACC/CMBS equipped models were equipped with [Michelin PAX System] run-flat tires on 18-inch equivalent (460 mm diameter) five-spoke wheels.
Inside, the front seats were revised for greater comfort and to allow a slight increase in rear leg room. The passenger front seat received the same full 10-way power control as the driver's seat. Both front seats featured active head restraint systems, and the existing seat-heating feature was supplemented by six levels of cooling ventilation. Controls for heating and air conditioning were simplified, and additional individual vent controls were added for the driver and passenger. The shift gear no longer had a gated sequence, but moved straight fore and aft like the ones in the Acura TSX and Acura TL. Simulated woodgrain trim was addded to the steering wheel and the top of the shifter, to emphasize the RL's upscale aspirations compared to its less costly TL and TSX siblings.
Additional insulation, improved acoustic isolation windshield design, and a new implementation of the Active Noise Cancellation system (ANC) combined to make the 2009 RL's interior quieter in a variety of conditions. Whereas the former ANC was set to cancel out only low frequency boominess from the engine and exhaust, the MMC system, called Active Sound Control, was expanded in its range to cancel some higher frequency road and tire noise as well. Unlike its predecessor ANC, Active Sound Control was now linked to throttle position and engine RPM to provide a quieter cockpit during normal cruising, yet allowed more of the new 3.7L engine's "muscular sound" to be heard during higher-RPM, higher-speed excursions.
An additional microphone as well as some switchable directionality was added to the HFL (Hands Free Link) and Voice Activated Navigation and Convenience controls. When the system was in "accept commands" mode, the new microphone system provided more accurate system "understanding" of the driver's voice. Extraneous sounds, such as other voices in the cabin and wind noise, were better distinguished and filtered out by the dual microphone system. Directionality was removed when an HFL voice call was established, so that all passengers could still participate in a phone call as in the pre-MMC model. The new dual microphone system used real estate in the overhead console that was previously used in the 2005 and 2006 models for OnStar control electronics. The number of voice recognition commands was increased to over 700,[21] up from 560[22] previously.
The DVD-based navigation system improved on previous XM satellite-linked traffic flow reporting, adding continuously updated real-time weather reporting and the capability to reroute based on current traffic conditions. The DVD Audio-capable 10-speaker sound system remained, but integration with the audio system was improved with the addition of Bluetooth stereo and a USB port that allowed integration and operation of Apple iPod and other MP3 type devices. Also new was the ability to display iPod or other MP3 device (such as a USB flash memory device) folder and playlist information on the car's 8-inch central navigation display screen.[23]
New shifter and center console arrangements were added, including a Sport mode. The steering wheel paddle shifters were reprogrammed for faster response, and the paddle shifters could be operated in both Drive and Sport modes. In pre-MMC models, the gear selector had to be put in manual mode for the paddle shifters to operate.
In exterior length, the 2009 RL grew slightly by 2.2 inches (56 mm). The height grew by a scant 0.1 inches (2.5 mm), while the width, track and wheelbase remaind the same,.[19][20] The front end including the hood, and the rear including the trunkline, were revised, and the headlights and taillights redesigned. One of the most controversial features of the 2009 RL was its "Power Plenum" grille design, the first of three similar designs that was soon joined by the second-generation 2009 Acura TSX and the fourth-generation 2009 Acura TL.
Curb weights increased for 2009. The MMC Base weighed in at 4083 lbs, the Technology Package model 4085 lbs, and the ACC/CMBS with no PAX weighed 4110.[24] The equivalent 2006 pre-MMC Technology Package had weighed 4012 lbs, and the pre-MMC with ACC/CMBS/PAX weighed 4074 lbs.[25]
MSRP for the 2009 Acura RL increased by $500 over 2008 model for each of its three trim levels.[26] For 2009, the Michelin PAX Run Flat Tire system was no longer offered in combination with the CMBS/ACC package. ACC was now featured alongside CMBS as part of the package name, after a two-year hiatus. In reality, ACC was always included as a part of the CMBS. Colors were also added and deleted.
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Only you can decide "is it worth it".

Here are the notable changes:
- cooled seats
- Bluetooth audio streaming & USB integration
- full time paddle shifters (does not have to be in "M" mode) with faster shift response
- loss of knob shifting
- "wood" steering wheel/shifter trim
- 18" wheels
- stiffer suspension
- folding mirrors (I think)
- 3.7L engine with 300 hp

You will find that the car is generally the same with some nips and tucks and added features. I am not sure if '09 had it, but the ebony interiors came with grey wood trim like Zelaya has retrofitted.

To be completely honest, the beak isn't bad in person. The RL has never posed well. It looks like an average car in pictures, but we all know it's a stunner in person. I have seen 3 MMCs recently, including a black one , and they honestly catch my attention more than the 2G. To each their own, but I believe the hatred for the beak is more an unthoughtful exaggerated influence than a carefully crafted sentiment.
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Yea that pretty much covers it....thank you
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That beak is not that bad i have also seen a few and i mean a few on the road and it gives the car a more aggressive look.
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
Only you can decide "is it worth it".

Here are the notable changes:
- cooled seats
- Bluetooth audio streaming & USB integration
- full time paddle shifters (does not have to be in "M" mode) with faster shift response
- loss of knob shifting
- "wood" steering wheel/shifter trim
- 18" wheels
- stiffer suspension
- folding mirrors (I think)
- 3.7L engine with 300 hp
Do you mean power folding mirrors? Because my '07 and my '97 had folding mirrors...
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Originally Posted by projektvertx
Do you mean power folding mirrors? Because my '07 and my '97 had folding mirrors...
My "07 have a power folding mirrors.
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Originally Posted by Maintenanceman
My "07 have a power folding mirrors.
LEGENDs and Chinese config RLs have power folding mirrors. US got them with 2009+ RLs.
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Power folding mirrors, yes. Tampa is right. Legends have had them, RLs had to wait.

Also, they revamped the ANC system like the wiki says.

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No power folding mirror on the 09 US RL. It started with the 2011's with the unique sound deadening wheel design.

I love the my 09 RL. Not a big fan of the black on the 09+ RL's. I felt that the white or gray fits this these generation RL better.
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
I believe the hatred for the beak is more an unthoughtful exaggerated influence than a carefully crafted sentiment.
On the contrary, my hatred for the beak is a carefully crafted sentiment.

(Although the '09 is, as you can see, upgraded in a number of functional areas.)
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Fair enough.
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So what did you decide, bronx?
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if i were in the market today i'd buy an 09+. i really like the rear of the newer car. you can paint the grill and make it look better... a few people here have done it, search for pics.

i'd get an 09-10, drop it on H&Rs, tint the windows... you're set.

i like the steering wheel in the newer cars too... it is wood and the wooden wheels are thicker in diameter.. the parts you grab feel like nicer leather, sportier feeling wheel.

plus more wood trim on the center console. it's pretty much the same car, just more refinded, a tad mor epower, and mor emodern looking.

good luck
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Well i went to the dealer yesterday and checked the car out and had my car appraised. My car is in great condition for a 5yr old car but the dealer said that my car was only worth 14k. The KBB dealership trade-in value is listed at 19,141. If i was to sell it myself i could get at least 22k. The dealership is full of crap i want the car but i don't necessarily need the car. The main reason why i want a new car is because my father is a co-signor on my loan and he's trying to buy a house within the next 6mos . So i wanted to get him off of my loan and also possibly get a newer car in the process.
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Put your car on the market and see if there is any interest.

Not sure how many miles you have on yours, but I would not expect to be able to sell it for any more than $1k less than KBB "Excellent" condition, and realistically, more like $2k less b/c it's an RL.
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A year ago when i was shopping for an RL,i found one in the local Acura dealer.It was 09 blk/blk w/ 16k miles,A-spec wheels,tech.It was spotles,i mean not a scratch on it in and out,prob a garage queen.The dealer was asking 32.5k i offered 32k otd,they didnt budge.The manager even said that there was a typo and the price was put low by mistake and he was going to put the price up at 35k.Absolute dealer dbags,i said fu and left,even though i was in love w/ the car and it was worth every penny.Sure enough in a month after i found a 07 tech,blk/blk w/82k miles,A-spec wheels w/ new MIch pilot A/S tires .Great condition in and out(trust me i have osd)1 owner perfect carfax.They where a Mini Cooper dealer 60 miles away,asking 21k for it.I got it for 20k otd.Was it worth it?Absolutely,basicaly the same car for 15k less,granted 82k miles but we all know our car can take much more than that.

Good luck with your dilema and whatever you decide to do!
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(trust me i have osd)
It must not be a very severe case.
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I think i"m going to try to sell my car i owe about 23k on the loan so maybe i will sell it for 20k or maybe 21k. If i can get that amount for my car i will be satisfied. What site would be the best place to list my car ?
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Craigslist and Cars.com are free. Just make sure to setup a new email account so the spammers don't trash your real one. You will also get calls from people in Nebraska who want to sell your car for you for $200. Don't do it.

You can also post an ad in the Black Market here, just be sure to follow the rules.

Also, start with $22-23K. Don't start where you want to end. How many miles?

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Originally Posted by oo7spy
It must not be a very severe case.
opps..i meant "ocd" and yes,it is pretty severe!lol
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Originally Posted by bronx1480
I think i"m going to try to sell my car i owe about 23k on the loan so maybe i will sell it for 20k or maybe 21k. If i can get that amount for my car i will be satisfied. What site would be the best place to list my car ?
Do what oo7spy said and you'll be fine. Our Black Market is a good place to start. autotrader.com is not free but gives your car national exposure as well. I agree that cars.com is a good choice. I am ehhhhh on Craigslist but some people swear by it.

BTW, don't believe KBB when appraising a car, they and Edmunds are simply unrealistic. I use those numbers for entertainment. If you are serious about selling, you need to use Galves.com. It costs, but every time I have used it, it has been accurate to within a few hundred bucks, of actual trade-in value.
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I recently sold a 2009 Civic through Craigslist for $15,000. We were asking $16k.
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My car has exactly 65k on it
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Thanks for all your input i ended up putting a listing up on craiglist and cars.com.Hopefully it works out.
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