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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Why RDX?

We've had Acuras for 20 + years exclusively.

Our lat two were MDX's, which were great.

But this time, the transmission, and the price, but mainly the transmission, gave me pause, so we opted for the RDX.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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I hope you have better luck with the RDX transmission than we are. Not my favorite feature of the RDX.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Check out the issues that manufacturers are having with the many gear transmissions.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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There is a good chance the 3rd Gen RDX will have either the old 9AT or the newer 10AT. The only hope is there might be a 3rd Gen RDX sport hybrid with the 7DCT; but, that might not happen until the 3rd Gen MMC +2020.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
There is a good chance the 3rd Gen RDX will have either the old 9AT or the newer 10AT. The only hope is there might be a 3rd Gen RDX sport hybrid with the 7DCT; but, that might not happen until the 3rd Gen MMC +2020.
The MDX hybrid's powertrain would be truly awesome in the RDX, which is why I don't expect it. I suppose a 4-cylinder-powered version would suffice. Or it could get some variation of the Accord's plug-in 2-motor system, which doesn't use a transmission at all. I would hope for a more powerful ICE engine if that's the case.

​​​​​​http://www.caranddriver.com/features/explaining-the-honda-accords-shrewdly-designed-new-hybrid-system-tech-dept
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:15 PM
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I hope they go with the new 10 AT. ZF 9spd on my TLX wasn't great... Livable, but also troublesome at times.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:44 PM
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The MDX hybrid's powertrain would be truly awesome in the RDX, which is why I don't expect it. I suppose a 4-cylinder-powered version would suffice. Or it could get some variation of the Accord's plug-in 2-motor system, which doesn't use a transmission at all. I would hope for a more powerful ICE engine if that's the case.

​​​​​​http://www.caranddriver.com/features/explaining-the-honda-accords-shrewdly-designed-new-hybrid-system-tech-dept
Not for me... I'll take a conventional system, such as the present RDX any day.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by barnowl
Not for me... I'll take a conventional system, such as the present RDX any day.
UHH, you mean you wouldn't take an RDX with 377HP ALL WHEEL ELECTRIC DRIVE!?!??!?!?!?
you, sir....are CRAZY!

it would be like the NSX but RDX.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 03:06 PM
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Well, I'd say you've got just about two chances of that.

Slim, ,,, and None.

I've got my conventional RDX power train.....

So,,,,, who's crazy?

LOL

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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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Volvo is going use sometype of electric hybrid or full electric system in the future for all models in a few years. Just a matter of time before other luxo brands offer more hybrid choices at a reasonable price. Maybe Acura might trickle down the NSX, RLX, and MDX sh-sh-awd system to the RDX, TLX, and ILX in a few years (skip that weak civic hybrid system the ILX has before)?

I think we a stuck with 7/8/9/10AT transmission with a few CVTs along with smaller engines with/without hybrid/turbo/superchargers until they can figure out an all electric vehicle with a 300-400 mile range and takes about the same time as filling a gas tank to recharge.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by barnowl
Check out the issues that manufacturers are having with the many gear transmissions.
I get what you are saying but the Acura 6sp in the RDX isn't the best even with less gears. The 4sp AT in my 11 Tacoma shifts much more smoothly than my RDX....

The transmissions in any of the many 16/17 RDX loaners I have driven are exactly the same as my car so I don't think mine is an anomaly....

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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 12:07 PM
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I saw Jag is going to offer electrified powertrains option on all models starting in 2020: Jaguar to Offer Electrified Powertrains on All Models From 2020

This mean Acura will follow between 2025 to 2030 with an electric option on all models.

Sad thing about this is Acura/Honda has all the tech ready to go sitting in the parts bin on the shelf for hybrid options for all Acura models. Acura can then stick with the DCT and rely on hybrid power for improved combined mpgs. I haven't looked that deep; but, folks seem to be happy with the 7DCT in the RLX and MDX sport hybrids.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Sad thing about this is Acura/Honda has all the tech ready to go sitting in the parts bin on the shelf for hybrid options for all Acura models. Acura can then stick with the DCT and rely on hybrid power for improved combined mpgs. I haven't looked that deep; but, folks seem to be happy with the 7DCT in the RLX and MDX sport hybrids.
I can't claim to know what's it's like to live with on a daily basis, but the 7-speed DCT in the MDX Hybrid was a sweetheart during my 20-minute test drive. In my past experiences, DCT's are great once underway, but can be laggy and clunky when starting or crawling. I experienced none of that in the MDX SH. In fact, even ignoring the other benefits, it's worth the $1,500 premium MDX owners are charged for the hybrid option just to avoid the lousy ZF 9-speed.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by barnowl
Not for me... I'll take a conventional system, such as the present RDX any day.
To each his own. I've driven good hybrids, and not-so-good hybrids. The MDX SH is probably the best I've ever sampled. If my choices were the MDX's hybrid drivetrain vs the RDX's current drivetrain, well ... that's no competition. Even if the new RDX offers a conventional V6, I will avoid it like the plague if they're foolish enough to pair it with the ZF 9-speed. If they offer a 4-cylinder turbo-based RDX 3-motor Hybrid, well ... I'll have to drive it.

On a related topic, I took a Pacifica plug-in Hybrid for a drive yesterday to see what all the fuss was about, and I came away quite impressed. I haven't felt torque steer in a long time, so that part was disappointing, but overall the drivetrain was surprisingly refined. And surprisingly punchy! Even the regenerative brakes felt normal. They were a little touchy compared to what I'm used to, but a lot of car's brakes are. And the rest of the package is pretty darn good, too. If I were in the market for a minivan, I'd be looking no further, and I don't even qualify for the $7,500 tax credit.
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