What does your VSA/Cruise Control switch do?
What does your VSA/Cruise Control switch do?
When I push in my Cruise Control Switch two things happen. If the cruise control is engaging the switch stays in the depressed position and it also has a green indicator bar that lights up. When I press it a second time it disengages and the switch button comes all the way out and the light goes out.
When I press in my VSA switch it just pushes in and comes back out. There is spring resistance to the push but there is no click, or detent, or anything else that tells me that the switch is in either the on or the off position, it is just one smooth push in or out. Is yours like that?
I ask because I'm trying to track down a problem with my VSA/ABS system and already having checked the fuses I'm now moving up the line to the switch. I'd appreciate it if one or two of you would check to see how your VSA switch works and if it gives any indication as to its position.
When I press in my VSA switch it just pushes in and comes back out. There is spring resistance to the push but there is no click, or detent, or anything else that tells me that the switch is in either the on or the off position, it is just one smooth push in or out. Is yours like that?
I ask because I'm trying to track down a problem with my VSA/ABS system and already having checked the fuses I'm now moving up the line to the switch. I'd appreciate it if one or two of you would check to see how your VSA switch works and if it gives any indication as to its position.
The VSA switch behavior is normal as is the CC. The VSA does not stick in position when pressed where the CC does. That is your main CC switch, when you press set you'll see another light come on to confirm your command to hold set speed steady.
However you should see a yellow triangle illuminate when VSA is off.
Damn it, thought this was in 3G TL...my apologies. I imagine that above would apply for your VSA though. Not sure about CC.
However you should see a yellow triangle illuminate when VSA is off.
Damn it, thought this was in 3G TL...my apologies. I imagine that above would apply for your VSA though. Not sure about CC.
My cruise control switch does as you say. The 6MT doesnt have VSA, but if it is like Accords, it does not click. It does as you say. To deactivate VSA on the Accord, you hold the button down for 3 seconds or so, you hear a beep, the triangle with and exclamation mark comes on on the dash, and the VSA/TCS is deactivated. Im not sure if the CL is the same.
IIRC, you stated in another thread that you were the third owner; so, I'm assuming the the cars Owner's manual may be long gone. If so, the info. below comes from the owner's manual and states the following about the ABS/VSA systems. Maybe there is something there that will help your situation until you can have your codes read.
ABS Indicator
The ABS is self-checking. If anything goes wrong, the ABS indicator on the instrument panel comes on. This means the anti-lock function of the braking system has shut down. The brakes still work like a conventional system without anti-lock, providing normal stopping ability. You should have the dealer inspect your car as soon as possible.
On Type-S with A/T
The Vehicle Stability Assist system helps stabilize the vehicle during cornering if the car turns more or less than desired. It also assists you in maintaining traction while accelerating on loose or slippery road surfaces. It does this by regulating the engine's output, and by selectively applying braking.
When VSA activates, you may notice that the engine does not respond to the acccelerator in the same way it does at other times. You will also see the VSA Activation Indicator blink.
The VSA system cannot enhance the car's driving stability in all situations and does not control your vehicle's entire braking system.
VSA Activation Indicator
When VSA activates, you will see the VSA Activation indicator blink.
VSA System Indicator
The VSA system indicator comes on and stays on when there is a problem with the VSA system. The VSA Activation indicator will also come on.
The VSA system indicator my come on along with the ABS indicator if there is a problem with the anti-lock brake system.
If the VSA indicator comes on while driving, pull to the side of the road when it is safe and turn off the engine. Reset the system by restarting the engine, and watch the VSA system indicator. If the indicator remains on, or comes back on while driving, have the VSA system inspected by the dealer.
If the indicator does not come on when the ignition switch is turned ON(II), there may be a problem with the VSA system. Have the dealer inspect your car ASAP.
Without VSA, your car will have normal braking and cornering ability, but it will not have VSA traction and stability enhancement.
VSA and Tire Sizes
Driving with varying tire or wheel sizes may cause the VSA system to malfunction. When replacing tires, make sure they are of the same size and type as your original tires.
Deactivate the VSA system if you need to drive with the compact spare tire installed.
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According to the Owner's manual, the Premium model (CL-P) has TCS (Traction Control System). It states 'the TCS assists only in low-speed, low traction conditions; up to approximately 18 mph. TCS monitors the speed of all four wheels. When it senses a front wheel losing traction, it applies braking to that wheel. The TCS indicator flashes when this occurs.'
I'm assuming that TCS is incorporated in the VSA system of the Type-S. If so, and it's limit in low traction conditions is 18 mph, then maybe the combination of a 'bad tire with a lump' and your '...flying start at the hill' might have inadvertently overtaxed the ABS/VSA system at around 3500 rpm; thus the light show on the dash.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being judgemental. I'm just being hypothetical in applying the data provided in your other thread and what is noted in the Owner's manual about the systems.
ABS Indicator
The ABS is self-checking. If anything goes wrong, the ABS indicator on the instrument panel comes on. This means the anti-lock function of the braking system has shut down. The brakes still work like a conventional system without anti-lock, providing normal stopping ability. You should have the dealer inspect your car as soon as possible.
On Type-S with A/T
The Vehicle Stability Assist system helps stabilize the vehicle during cornering if the car turns more or less than desired. It also assists you in maintaining traction while accelerating on loose or slippery road surfaces. It does this by regulating the engine's output, and by selectively applying braking.
When VSA activates, you may notice that the engine does not respond to the acccelerator in the same way it does at other times. You will also see the VSA Activation Indicator blink.
The VSA system cannot enhance the car's driving stability in all situations and does not control your vehicle's entire braking system.
VSA Activation Indicator
When VSA activates, you will see the VSA Activation indicator blink.
VSA System Indicator
The VSA system indicator comes on and stays on when there is a problem with the VSA system. The VSA Activation indicator will also come on.
The VSA system indicator my come on along with the ABS indicator if there is a problem with the anti-lock brake system.
If the VSA indicator comes on while driving, pull to the side of the road when it is safe and turn off the engine. Reset the system by restarting the engine, and watch the VSA system indicator. If the indicator remains on, or comes back on while driving, have the VSA system inspected by the dealer.
If the indicator does not come on when the ignition switch is turned ON(II), there may be a problem with the VSA system. Have the dealer inspect your car ASAP.
Without VSA, your car will have normal braking and cornering ability, but it will not have VSA traction and stability enhancement.
VSA and Tire Sizes
Driving with varying tire or wheel sizes may cause the VSA system to malfunction. When replacing tires, make sure they are of the same size and type as your original tires.
Deactivate the VSA system if you need to drive with the compact spare tire installed.
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According to the Owner's manual, the Premium model (CL-P) has TCS (Traction Control System). It states 'the TCS assists only in low-speed, low traction conditions; up to approximately 18 mph. TCS monitors the speed of all four wheels. When it senses a front wheel losing traction, it applies braking to that wheel. The TCS indicator flashes when this occurs.'
I'm assuming that TCS is incorporated in the VSA system of the Type-S. If so, and it's limit in low traction conditions is 18 mph, then maybe the combination of a 'bad tire with a lump' and your '...flying start at the hill' might have inadvertently overtaxed the ABS/VSA system at around 3500 rpm; thus the light show on the dash.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being judgemental. I'm just being hypothetical in applying the data provided in your other thread and what is noted in the Owner's manual about the systems.
When I push in my Cruise Control Switch two things happen. If the cruise control is engaging the switch stays in the depressed position and it also has a green indicator bar that lights up. When I press it a second time it disengages and the switch button comes all the way out and the light goes out.
When I press in my VSA switch it just pushes in and comes back out. There is spring resistance to the push but there is no click, or detent, or anything else that tells me that the switch is in either the on or the off position, it is just one smooth push in or out. Is yours like that?
I ask because I'm trying to track down a problem with my VSA/ABS system and already having checked the fuses I'm now moving up the line to the switch. I'd appreciate it if one or two of you would check to see how your VSA switch works and if it gives any indication as to its position.
When I press in my VSA switch it just pushes in and comes back out. There is spring resistance to the push but there is no click, or detent, or anything else that tells me that the switch is in either the on or the off position, it is just one smooth push in or out. Is yours like that?
I ask because I'm trying to track down a problem with my VSA/ABS system and already having checked the fuses I'm now moving up the line to the switch. I'd appreciate it if one or two of you would check to see how your VSA switch works and if it gives any indication as to its position.
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