03 cl type s 6speed
aem intake /custom 2/5" header and exhaust straight pipe/ light weight flywheel /tb spacer /pulley set

08 tl type s 6spd
intake/ j pipe/tb spcer

 

ummmmm.... what?

 

Win what? Since you posted in the dyno section I guess you mean who will put down more powe? I'd have to guess the TL.

Id guess the same results in a race too. But it is just my guess.

 

08 has 285 hp at the crank new SAE standard

03 has 260 hp at the crank pre SAE new standard. (which is more like 243 new SAE standard)

08 will win in both dyno and 1/4 mile..... depending on driver of course.

 

dyno or drag

 

Ummm with those mod's I would think it would be pretty close probably down to the details like driver, tires miles on the engine ect ect

 

the tl-s will pull

 

Tl-s

 

i raced few of them but still dont know it depends on the driver as for race as for dyno it will be TL-S

 

I vote CL-S. The TL-S weighs 200+ lbs more, but at this point it all depends on who's driving.

 

thanks ill post a video but i did 19' rims and balled tires so ther be a part 2 and i let off

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0uAZb0ytgE

 

The 19's won't help you out fyi

 

Bald tires wont really make a difference when you are already rolling on the highway. FYI, there is a 113lb difference, with the advantage going to the CL (3446 vs 3559).

 

Actually, according to cars.com, the 08 TL-S weighs 3,674 lbs. Link

 

The weights are listed almost at the bottom. Remember both cars are 6MTs.

http://hondanews.com/channels/acura-...specifications

http://hondanews.com/channels/acura-...cations?query=

 

oic. It would have helped if cars.com specified whether it was auto or manual

 

IIRC the cls auto is 3510. But that race went like I thought it would have with the TLS pulling a bit.

 

It doesn't add up to me that a TL-S would only pull a little bit more like he did if it really had "40 crank hp more" than a CL-S

 

Both cars are 6MTs. But you are correct.

Look at the mod list. There isnt 40hp seperating them anymore, but the added torque of the 3.5 will still pull on the CL. If the TL had precat deletes then it would pull much more. Ive seen TL-S6s putting down around 285whp.

 

I raced an auto 2004 TL and wooped his ass. That still puts out 270 crank over the CL-S's 260 crank.

 

Ok? Auto TL puts down about the same as the CL-S6. Toss in long gears ratios for the TL and the added bulk (its pushing 3600lbs) and thats why the CL beats it. If you compare apples to apples (6MT vs 6MT), the TL-S will win.

Also keep in mind that the 270hp rating on the 04s were before the revised SAE numbers, while the TL-S was after it. So the difference between the 04 TL and the 07-08 TL-S is more like 28hp at the crank.

 

I'm skeptical about the SAE ratings, although this is what they keep saying, I have a hard time believing it because for one, they act as if this is the "fix" for hp ratings but are not totally sure of it, and two, everything I have been reading up on about it has yet to have a source. Maybe I'm just being biased about my hp, but I know for a fact my CLS has taken down many cars at the track that have had over 280 crank hp on the new SAE ratings. I have even taken some cars that their owners apparently have said had 300whp. I'm not trying to sound like a retard but I just have a hard time believing that my CLS could take cars like those if it really only had around 240hp. It just doesn't add up if you think about.

 

It ads up fine honestly. Peak horsepower doesnt mean much. It comes down to gearing and usable power.

The CL and TL 6MTs have the same exact gearing. The TL-S has a broader torque curve.

 

sorry i forgot to mention i let off and he kept going .dont know if these are exuces but i beat him before with brand new tires . my tires went balled in lees than a month due to cheap camber kit. put the stock rims back on & camber but the tires where also balled he pulled but not as much thers a part 2. but i lost agian .he use to have a 04 tl and traded it becuase of me

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAHW3TuOXMs

 

i beat two TL-S but it looks like it must have been AT

 

trust me when i say my tires are bauled

 

As much as I wanted the CL-S to win, having bald tires is totally irrelevant when it comes to a rolling start. Maybe upgrade your intake and headers to Comptech since they claim the highest gains. Other than that, your gonna have to start spending alot more money to start digging into more serious mods such as an engine build, supercharger, turbo, or nitrous.

 

any black friday deals with s/c or heeltoe ?

 

You really want to win don't you?

 

yes yes yes

 

Xs header are rated for the same gains as comptech.

 

i had them before and upgraded the B pipe to a 2 1/2" pipe no cat but 2 resonators to qiuet the magnaflows down .

 

That's not what i've heard on this site.

 

can you tell me where i can get a lip from

 

they knocked off comptech's design exactly, so how would it be any different?

 

I don't even know how they could be different, I'm just speaking off of posts that I've read

 

A lip wont make you go faster.

Not exactly, the collector on the CT header is 2" while the XS is 2.5". The rest is the same though.

Those posts are referring to cars with a stock cat, stock b-pipe and stock mufflers. As I said above, the XS headers are 2.5" at the collector. When you upgrade the cat, b pipe and mufflers the 2.5" collector proves to be beneficial.

 

[QUOTE=civicdrivr;12519033]A lip wont make you go faster.



Not exactly, the collector on the CT header is 2" while the XS is 2.5". The rest is the same though.



Those posts are referring to cars with a stock cat, stock b-pipe and stock mufflers. As I said above, the XS headers are 2.5" at the collector. When you upgrade the cat, b pipe and mufflers the 2.5" collector proves to be beneficial.[/Q

actually both collectors on mine are 2.5'' all the way to the magnaflow mufflers it made a big difrence