Turbo CL-S Dyno

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Aug 12, 2004 | 04:43 PM
  #121  
Congratulations!!!

Very, very, impressive numbers.


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Aug 12, 2004 | 06:43 PM
  #122  
Thought this was interesting. Maxima's need 25psi of boost to get 400whp!!

http://www.turbomaxima.com/modules.p...ebf69fd3947009
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Aug 12, 2004 | 08:00 PM
  #123  
Wait a minute... does this mean your engine makes ~505hp/435ft-lbs. at the crank!? That is using a 17% drivetrain loss (X - 17%X=419hp).
kewl... 500hp Acura CL
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Aug 12, 2004 | 09:04 PM
  #124  
I dont know how accurate you can guage whp into flywheel hp. Why Stock the 6 speeds take out about 40hp, why would the loss double just because its making more hp? Either way he's still got a buttload of power.
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Aug 12, 2004 | 09:21 PM
  #125  
Quote: I dont know how accurate you can guage whp into flywheel hp. Why Stock the 6 speeds take out about 40hp, why would the loss double just because its making more hp? Either way he's still got a buttload of power.
The actual numerical hp loss is double... but the percentage stays the same.
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Aug 12, 2004 | 11:04 PM
  #126  
Quote: I dont know how accurate you can guage whp into flywheel hp. Why Stock the 6 speeds take out about 40hp, why would the loss double just because its making more hp? Either way he's still got a buttload of power.
It's always a % loss. I believe a stock CL-S 6spd dyno'd at TOV made 220whp (Dynojet). Given the factory output of 260hp @ the crank, that's a 15.4% loss. My car made 419.3whp (Dynapak), so let's drop that by ~15whp to 405whp. Accounting for the 15.4% loss, the crank hp is 478.64hp. Considering that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in horsepower production (especially an FI/Intercooled car) between a car on a dyno vs. a car truly accelerating, it is not completely outlandish to consider this as a 500hp vehicle.
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Aug 12, 2004 | 11:14 PM
  #127  
BTW, I am paying a visit to RC Engineering on Monday so I will once and for all solve this damn injector puzzle for this car
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Aug 12, 2004 | 11:34 PM
  #128  
how much did the turbo cost you?
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Aug 13, 2004 | 02:13 AM
  #129  



Thats all I can say!!!!
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Aug 13, 2004 | 11:12 AM
  #130  
man u should be in a magazine.... "Most powerful CL" or "500hp CL-S" with topis like those
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Aug 13, 2004 | 11:54 AM
  #131  
Quote: man u should be in a magazine.... "Most powerful CL" or "500hp CL-S" with topis like those
There's something brewin'
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Aug 13, 2004 | 12:26 PM
  #132  
Quote: There's something brewin'

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Aug 13, 2004 | 12:42 PM
  #133  
Quote: It's always a % loss. I believe a stock CL-S 6spd dyno'd at TOV made 220whp (Dynojet). Given the factory output of 260hp @ the crank, that's a 15.4% loss. My car made 419.3whp (Dynapak), so let's drop that by ~15whp to 405whp. Accounting for the 15.4% loss, the crank hp is 478.64hp. Considering that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in horsepower production (especially an FI/Intercooled car) between a car on a dyno vs. a car truly accelerating, it is not completely outlandish to consider this as a 500hp vehicle.
Outlandish? I think it'd be ignorant on quite a few levels to _not_ know that your setup is capable of making more than 500hp (crank, so far ) given anything but the worst conditions (high temps, stationary vehicle, etc.).
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Aug 13, 2004 | 12:49 PM
  #134  
Quote: man u should be in a magazine.... "Most powerful CL" or "500hp CL-S" with topis like those
Or maybe even a spot on a TV series like 5th Gear.
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Aug 13, 2004 | 12:52 PM
  #135  
me so horny
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Aug 13, 2004 | 01:56 PM
  #136  
Quote: me so horny
Is that you or your avatar talking???

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Aug 13, 2004 | 02:04 PM
  #137  
Quote: BTW, I am paying a visit to RC Engineering on Monday so I will once and for all solve this damn injector puzzle for this car


Installation of RC 370cc is possible but as I heard its a lot of mess to make them fit.
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Oct 26, 2005 | 03:22 PM
  #138  
any updates with the setup?????????????
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Oct 26, 2005 | 05:01 PM
  #139  
Quote: any updates with the setup?????????????
yes. setup presently removed for good according to allmotor himself.
it's a DAMNed shame! damned shame.
a man's gotta do what a man has gotta do.
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Oct 26, 2005 | 05:42 PM
  #140  
I wonder who he sold it to, and if he could replicate it?
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Oct 26, 2005 | 09:36 PM
  #141  
Quote: yes. setup presently removed for good according to allmotor himself.
it's a DAMNed shame! damned shame.
a man's gotta do what a man has gotta do.
That sucks to hear! I was hoping for higher boost runs and #'s.
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Oct 26, 2005 | 10:05 PM
  #142  
Yup, its out for good!

The kit is in very good hands.. you'll see results sooner than later
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May 10, 2006 | 07:49 PM
  #143  
any chance of someone re-hosting allmotors dyno chart?
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Nov 12, 2006 | 03:32 AM
  #144  
yes, can the dyno be posted again?
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Nov 12, 2006 | 03:44 AM
  #145  
I always liked looking at this thread...I wanna see too.
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Dec 4, 2006 | 12:06 AM
  #146  
PM me, I'll e-mail it.
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Dec 4, 2006 | 05:58 AM
  #147  
Quote: PM me, I'll e-mail it.
you got PMed
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Dec 13, 2006 | 11:47 PM
  #148  
Damn u allternator u gave up on us
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Dec 27, 2006 | 10:25 PM
  #149  
edit: I didn't see the previous few posts. Oh well..if he did it, somebody else will no doubt take it to another level.

wait wait wait wait, you're making almost 500 crank HP with < 12PSI? Geez. Where I come from I'm used to people making 340 HP with 23 PSI. What is the maximum amount of boost that your internals could handle? It seems to me like you could still tweak a lot more out of that SOHC. Maybe i'm wrong...I dunno much about Acuras...but that's why I'm here

But man is that BADASS on every freaking level!! Have fun waving goodbye to F430s...if you don't melt your LSD that is..lol
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Dec 31, 2006 | 02:04 PM
  #150  
Quote: edit: I didn't see the previous few posts. Oh well..if he did it, somebody else will no doubt take it to another level.

wait wait wait wait, you're making almost 500 crank HP with < 12PSI? Geez. Where I come from I'm used to people making 340 HP with 23 PSI. What is the maximum amount of boost that your internals could handle? It seems to me like you could still tweak a lot more out of that SOHC. Maybe i'm wrong...I dunno much about Acuras...but that's why I'm here

But man is that BADASS on every freaking level!! Have fun waving goodbye to F430s...if you don't melt your LSD that is..lol

340hp at 23psi... Yeah, on an 4cyl. Like Evo or STi. This is a bigger displacement, don't forget.
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Dec 31, 2006 | 04:30 PM
  #151  
More like 7psi.. I never got it past that level. At 12psi, it would easily pass the 500 crank horsepower.

The turbo design made a huge difference. Old kit vs. new kit was +75whp at the same boost level!
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Dec 31, 2006 | 05:20 PM
  #152  
What was the difference between the two kits?
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Dec 31, 2006 | 06:26 PM
  #153  
crazy crazy. How much boost could the internals handle on a type-S? I have to imagine the compression ratio is pretty high in that high strung motor.
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Jan 1, 2007 | 12:00 AM
  #154  
The turbo was different (T3/T4 hybrid vs. GT35R - BlueCL6S did some good work in matching the best turbo for the breathing characteristics of the J32A2). In addition, the manifold was a little different. 3" downpipe vs. 2.5". Also, the merge on the exhaust manifold was designed such that between 4K - 8K RPMs the wavelength of the exhaust pulses would not cause a hot-spot where the 2:1 (after both 3:1 merges occur and when it combines into one inlet into the turbine) - the latter proved significantly helpful in preventing detonation at 6-7psi.... the old kit needed 4-5 degrees of timing retard. The new kit ran run timing on 91-octane. Lastly, the IC inlet and outlet were designed differently to minimize temperature increases... this was pure chemistry and physics (PV=nRT and Boyle's Law).
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Jan 1, 2007 | 12:03 AM
  #155  
Hey man, good to see you still around! Just wanted to hop in here to say my turbo kit is on sale in the black market forum... speaking of turbo kits.
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Jan 1, 2007 | 04:17 PM
  #156  
Quote: Hey man, good to see you still around! Just wanted to hop in here to say my turbo kit is on sale in the black market forum... speaking of turbo kits.
Hey Steve!!

I lurk around every now and then. Been extremely busy with my MBA and now the baby is due in 3 weeks! How are you doing?
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Jan 2, 2007 | 02:35 AM
  #157  
wow..good luck with the MBA and congrats about the baby! Acura has probably taken a back seat to a lot of stuff huh?
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Jan 2, 2007 | 03:23 PM
  #158  
I sold the car several months ago... bought a BMW 7.
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Jan 2, 2007 | 06:11 PM
  #159  
niiice.
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Jan 13, 2007 | 09:59 AM
  #160  
Wow!!!
all i can say is and that it makes me wanna
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