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Old 08-09-2004, 11:38 PM
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gotta hand it to you ram, u da man.

I didnt ever think the CLS could hold that much power, just amazing work man.
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ummm once again WOW

congrats!!!
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Blue... give Shawn a call if you want to dyno your car. I told him about your car as well... so he'll hook you up with a price as long as you don't have to spend time tuning - which you don't!
Old 08-09-2004, 11:50 PM
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Holy shit, Ram... I just had to call you to congratulate you on the impressive work... keep rocking that CL! I can't wait to see it in person... so lucky to have this going on in my back yard =)
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All I can say is you know your sh1t. Those are some incredible numbers. This Dyno should get the guys lining up at your door.
Old 08-10-2004, 12:38 AM
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WOW those are some impresive numbers

so whats teh 1/4 mile times? i cant wait to see the car on detialing day at Meguires down south, im driving from tracy,ca to the meet to hang out and i have to get a ride in that awsome machine
Old 08-10-2004, 01:53 AM
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congrats man!!!! sweet #'s
Old 08-10-2004, 01:59 AM
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Old 08-10-2004, 02:43 AM
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holy shit!!! nice job allmotor, or should I call you allturbo'd now? :P

lol @ dyno going from 62 whp to 419 whp.
Old 08-10-2004, 02:48 AM
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Old 08-10-2004, 04:57 AM
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it was really good hearing about the over 400whp news. congrats, it looks like you have achieved the power levels you were hoping for! I think whats more impressive is the tq. at such low rpms, something i wouldnt imagine with a turbo at 3k rpms!
cl-s6 stock: 220 whp
allmotor cls6: 420 whp

Total of 200 whp gain, nearly double stock output. Congrats again!
Old 08-10-2004, 06:00 AM
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That is awesome!! I personally think your looking at the mid 11's for 1/4 mile et. just gootttaaa hook up. Since you've taken this to a higher level, are there plans for you to seek out aftermarket custom axels. Clutch? If your considering doing so, there are a few of us on here that would like to jump on that train which could reduce the cost of such items.
Old 08-10-2004, 06:54 AM
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Allmotor_2000 ur my Yoda.

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Old 08-10-2004, 07:06 AM
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Holy!!!

That is better than I expected. I was expecting about 400 WHP and you certainly blew past that mark.
Old 08-10-2004, 07:07 AM
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At least I can say I still make more torque than you...




Only below 2500 RPM.
Old 08-10-2004, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
We need a stronger ignition system.. I have a misfire at around 5.2K RPM. What I don't
understand is how the stock injectors (even at 90psi) can maintian a 12.4 AFR for this kind of power level. I tuned the car to run 12.0 AFR with the stock exhaust.... opening it up bumps it to about 12.4 which is ideal for maximum power.
What plugs are you running??

I agree on the fuel aspect, it is amazing that they are holding this well. I seriously doubt they are 240cc unit!!!
Old 08-10-2004, 07:24 AM
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Ah man, I just noticed it was on a Dynapack. Any chance of making pulls on a Dynojet for comparisons sake??
Old 08-10-2004, 07:30 AM
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Nice numbers!!! That car is a beast!!!
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
I am now certain that with a 70mph head-wind and 70C temps,
Where the heck are you driving, Venus:

70C = 158F

Old 08-10-2004, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Ah man, I just noticed it was on a Dynapack. Any chance of making pulls on a Dynojet for comparisons sake??
i was about to say the same. was the old setup dynoed on a dynapack as well?
Old 08-10-2004, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by car_lost
i was about to say the same. was the old setup dynoed on a dynapack as well?
Yeah, dynapacks are actually measuring brake horse power rather than wheel horse power and they always dyno a little higher than dynos that measure horsepower at the wheels. Since they remove the wheels on a dynapack, you've gotta add the rotational mass of your rims back in to get the true wheel horsepower. This was part of the cause for the big controversy when TOV was putting down 240bhp on the '04 S2000 where most people were putting down somewhere around 210whp on other dynos.

Even so, the power you're making is incredible. I wish I bought a 6spd CL-S instead of my 5AT TL-S when I look at those numbers!!!! Congrats!
Old 08-10-2004, 09:28 AM
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Great numbers! Looks like all your hard work finally paid off.
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Last time was the Dynapack as well. Shawn has corrected his Dynapack as best as he could because everybody uses the Dynojet as the 'correct' hp figure. So, they dyno'd a G35C stock on the Dynapack and the Dynojet and saw a 10hp decrease on the Dynojet. They dyno'd a lower powered car and saw a 11hp decrease. So... I figure there is a 10-15hp increase on the Dynapack. Honestly I think the difference between a stationary dyno and a moving car is more than 15hp!

Yes... 70F, not 70C!
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I really don't want to start a Dynojet vs. Dynapack argument. I chose Dynapack because I dyno'd on a Dynapack the last time. If its a 10-15whp difference, that is already within the 'error' reading of a dyno as it will always measure a different # on a different day... different temps etc. A nice 50F day would probably bump this up another 10-15whp - its all relative.
Old 08-10-2004, 10:17 AM
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Nice #'s Ram.
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DAAAAAMMMMMMNN! That is so sweet. Matched only by the almost stock-look of the car.

Wonder what class these mods would put me in for Solo2 autoxing?
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
I really don't want to start a Dynojet vs. Dynapack argument. I chose Dynapack because I dyno'd on a Dynapack the last time. If its a 10-15whp difference, that is already within the 'error' reading of a dyno as it will always measure a different # on a different day... different temps etc. A nice 50F day would probably bump this up another 10-15whp - its all relative.
There is no arguement, just a discussion for relative terms. You rightfully chose the Dynapack to see the relative differences from the previous kit to this one while eliminating as many variables under your control. I beleive the measured differences are in the 3% - 5% range dependant on the type of wheels/tires used.

In the end you made some serious power. I'm just glad my estimates were closer when taking the dyno type into consideration. And that 450 WHP mark is within striking distance and should be easily acheived.
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Originally Posted by scoob5555
Wonder what class these mods would put me in for Solo2 autoxing?
They might as well leave you in the stock class as you will be pushing so wide in the turns with this much power.
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I think 450whp is very achievable... probably at 8psi. That's about it for the stock motor though! It's nuts to think this motor can make this kind of power at truly moderate boost levels. I sent a copy to Comptech
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Looks like you will be killing alot of cars out there. Now who around here said the nsx was the best Acura. Congrats.
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Looks like you will be killing alot of cars out there. Now who around here said the nsx was the best Acura. Congrats.
I think I did I used to own one and it IS a better car than the CL-S!
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[QUOTE=allmotor_2000]

We need a stronger ignition system.. I have a misfire at around 5.2K RPM. What I don't
understand is how the stock injectors (even at 90psi) can maintian a 12.4 AFR for this kind of power level. I tuned the car to run 12.0 AFR with the stock exhaust.... opening it up bumps it to about 12.4 which is ideal for maximum power.


I don't see how the stock injectors are keeping up with it. Scalbert said they are 240cc injectors, but i think they may be 290cc. I say this because the NSX comes with 290cc in the nsx 3.2 which is similar in HP of a stock CLS. At Allmotors level, it would be reasonable to expect an injector to be in at least the range of 45-50 lbs.
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
Scalbert said they are 240cc injectors, but i think they may be 290cc.
That is what we have been told, but don't beleive it to be the case.
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Hummmm now if I can just get my 5sp auto to hold up......
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HOLY
Congrats AllMotor and yes change your name .

The stock CLS injectors are 270cc and e-Manage is responsible for providing enough fuel. I also agree on Dynapak difference 3-5% reads higher then industry standard Dynojet so my I'd say its solid and incredible 404-405 WHP car with low boost.
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Nice job Bro, life's too short to not enjoy your ride

Bring the BEAST to one of our next meets !! Maybe we need to find a spot halfway between L.A. and Sactown.


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