StreetKa's CL Type S 03 6 speed Dyno
#42
Ok so while replacing tie rods i realized that my back header was missing bolt lol. I mean there was a bolt but no nut. Thats where all the rattle was comming from, right now is all perfect my exhaust sounds even better but there is a lil raspiness. Also i found out that my steering column (sp?) is loose and makes some knocking sound noting big but still. And effff you acurapartssource they sent me two right tie rods
#43
i wanted to show you this guys because some of you say that dynopack reads high/low bc it measures the power at hubs
this is simple comparsion and yes my car was dynoed on dynopack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZXbk...layer_embedded
this is simple comparsion and yes my car was dynoed on dynopack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZXbk...layer_embedded
#44
hey just did my car yesterday on a dynojet, and it was like 248 HP and like 218-219 torque (like a 40hp and 40 ft lbs of torqued gained from last year when i had the auto, and btw it was the exact same dyno, same operator, and almost the exact same weather condition [like the correction factor was 1.23 last year and 1.22 this year)
so not really that far off from yours, and my car currently has 123k on it, so quite a few more miles then yours
and for power readings, it is all in the calibration of the dyno software, more then anything, even then it is not very hard to fool a dyno, in order to make it read more or less power
so not really that far off from yours, and my car currently has 123k on it, so quite a few more miles then yours
and for power readings, it is all in the calibration of the dyno software, more then anything, even then it is not very hard to fool a dyno, in order to make it read more or less power
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-12-2010 at 02:38 PM.
#45
Did you watch the video ? Phee got 25x on dynojet as well. According to what i read is just not accurate as you think.
You said you live at high altitude
You said you live at high altitude
Last edited by StreetKA; 12-12-2010 at 03:22 PM.
#46
high altitude = SAE correction factor of like 1.22 or so (if you take away the correction factor, i am only putting down like 200 to the wheels, not the 250 after correction)
and as you say accurate i am looking more for repeatability, between every run, then all out ratings (and as i said same dyno, same operator, and almost the same weather conditions) and if you are woundering ALL 3 runs where within like a 1-2 hp of each other, can't get really get more consistent then that (or very hard to at least)
and for the "numbers" it's all in the calibration of said dyno for the most part
and just asking this, but you weren't you still at 246, only 2 less then me (but i got more torque though) and even then i also have a lightweight flywheel too from clutchmasters, so that should be worth a little more then just 2 hp i would think
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-12-2010 at 04:14 PM.
#47
I had all spark plugs loose and rear header was missing one bolt so was leaking bad but still i belive 246 whp from dynopack is more than 248 from dynojet for sure. Im not trying to argue but we wont find that out unless we got our car on same dyno same day and same place.
Im just wonderinh how this is gonna look my dyno after full intake and tb pnp and later 3.6 if its going to happen. My friend has b5 s4 avant he invested like 5k now and hes got like about almost 500awhp.
I even want to redyno the car now after that what happened to me lately and see. Car feels much faster than ever.
Im just wonderinh how this is gonna look my dyno after full intake and tb pnp and later 3.6 if its going to happen. My friend has b5 s4 avant he invested like 5k now and hes got like about almost 500awhp.
I even want to redyno the car now after that what happened to me lately and see. Car feels much faster than ever.
Last edited by StreetKA; 12-12-2010 at 04:56 PM.
#48
I had all spark plugs loose and rear header was missing one bolt so was leaking bad but still i belive 246 whp from dynopack is more than 248 from dynojet for sure. Im not trying to argue but we wont find that out unless we got our car on same dyno same day and same place.
Im just wonderinh how this is gonna look my dyno after full intake and tb pnp and later 3.6 if its going to happen. My friend has b5 s4 avant he invested like 5k now and hes got like about almost 500awhp.
I even want to redyno the car now after that what happened to me lately and see. Car feels much faster than ever.
Im just wonderinh how this is gonna look my dyno after full intake and tb pnp and later 3.6 if its going to happen. My friend has b5 s4 avant he invested like 5k now and hes got like about almost 500awhp.
I even want to redyno the car now after that what happened to me lately and see. Car feels much faster than ever.
as far as that audi, turbo cars, are a whole lot easier to modify to make more power, especially when the motor is already built to take boost
btw for my topend power, i know my comptech header is holding me back with only 2" pipe into the test pipe (after 6k torque starts dropping off dramatically)
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-12-2010 at 05:14 PM.
#51
btw here is mine for reference:
run 3,4,5 is from last year with the automatic
the run 6,7,8 is from this year with the manual
they emailed me the files, and they still had them saved from last year too ; but anyways i had to download winPEP 7 in order to view them
basically an exact duplicate, but just more though (only difference as far as mods and such go, was a test pipe this year, instead of a high flow cat, minus the transmission and flywheel difference)
run 3,4,5 is from last year with the automatic
the run 6,7,8 is from this year with the manual
they emailed me the files, and they still had them saved from last year too ; but anyways i had to download winPEP 7 in order to view them
basically an exact duplicate, but just more though (only difference as far as mods and such go, was a test pipe this year, instead of a high flow cat, minus the transmission and flywheel difference)
#52
and as far as the loose spark plugs do and such, my choice to go and get mine dyno'd was on a whim, so nothing special about it (i was actually driving, friend was like was like we should go dyno it, he calls up the shop, they have a opening today, but you gotta be here in like 30-45 minutes, we where probably that far away, especially if i had not speed a little
as far as that audi, turbo cars, are a whole lot easier to modify to make more power, especially when the motor is already built to take boost
btw for my topend power, i know my comptech header is holding me back with only 2" pipe into the test pipe (after 6k torque starts dropping off dramatically)
as far as that audi, turbo cars, are a whole lot easier to modify to make more power, especially when the motor is already built to take boost
btw for my topend power, i know my comptech header is holding me back with only 2" pipe into the test pipe (after 6k torque starts dropping off dramatically)
#53
and when did you do that vw meet?, might have been willing to drive down; i am up in north denver towards boulder
but i also like that they don't seem to try and inflate the numbers at all, and try and get consistent numbers (and as funny as this is, hey actually remembered me some from last december
#54
as a matter of fact yes lol
and when did you do that vw meet?, might have been willing to drive down; i am up in north denver towards boulder
but i also like that they don't seem to try and inflate the numbers at all, and try and get consistent numbers (and as funny as this is, hey actually remembered me some from last december
and when did you do that vw meet?, might have been willing to drive down; i am up in north denver towards boulder
but i also like that they don't seem to try and inflate the numbers at all, and try and get consistent numbers (and as funny as this is, hey actually remembered me some from last december
http://www.streetfire.net/videos/sea...?t=punkrider99
I was in Colorado Springs but had to move to Memphis for my job.
#55
I think it was back in mid 2006. They did seem to have consitant numbers with all our cars. On that trip my 1.8T made 225whp and 298wtq. We even had one member with a Duramax that put down 708HP and 1280tq! It was pretty sweet to see it go! I'll try to find the video. Here are two other cars from that day @ MAC. I was the camera guy for the video where Nate was spraying his FMIC. That run was the only 1.8T of the day to put more TQ then me. I think he hit 311WTQ on that run.
http://www.streetfire.net/videos/sea...?t=punkrider99
I was in Colorado Springs but had to move to Memphis for my job.
http://www.streetfire.net/videos/sea...?t=punkrider99
I was in Colorado Springs but had to move to Memphis for my job.
as far as your torque, must of still had the kkk turbo on there then, those fuckers spool like no other, but absolutely run out of breath though up high (but yeah if you actual.ly look, i had more torque this time, then i actually had in horsepower last time
and memphis :shiver: cold as fuck, shit we had 49 degrees out tonight for the meet (and have not recieve really any sort of snow down here either, so far this year
#56
i think they actually move into a new building a couple of years ago
as far as your torque, must of still had the kkk turbo on there then, those fuckers spool like no other, but absolutely run out of breath though up high (but yeah if you actual.ly look, i had more torque this time, then i actually had in horsepower last time
and memphis :shiver: cold as fuck, shit we had 49 degrees out tonight for the meet (and have not recieve really any sort of snow down here either, so far this year
as far as your torque, must of still had the kkk turbo on there then, those fuckers spool like no other, but absolutely run out of breath though up high (but yeah if you actual.ly look, i had more torque this time, then i actually had in horsepower last time
and memphis :shiver: cold as fuck, shit we had 49 degrees out tonight for the meet (and have not recieve really any sort of snow down here either, so far this year
Yes, I took the K03s off and put on a K04-001 w/ TT225 injectors and tune. My down fall was the oem IC. I had pretty much everything else. Peak TQ came as early as 2900 rpm. I was peaking 25psi, holding 21 then tapered down around 5200 and up.
I'm really suprised how broad the TQ band is on your guys J32's. I thought there would be much much more slope to it.
I do have to say it is cold as shit right now. Also THE ONLY AND I SAY ONLY thing I like about Memphis over the Springs is the lack of 6000FT Elevation! Which = More Power!
Last edited by CH46ESeaKnight; 12-13-2010 at 02:23 AM.
#57
You know VAG! You know Edition719?
Yes, I took the K03s off and put on a K04-001 w/ TT225 injectors and tune. My down fall was the oem IC. I had pretty much everything else. Peak TQ came as early as 2900 rpm. I was peaking 25psi, holding 21 then tapered down around 5200 and up.
I'm really suprised how broad the TQ band is on your guys J32's. I thought there would be much much more slope to it.
I do have to say it is cold as shit right now. Also THE ONLY AND I SAY ONLY thing I like about Memphis over the Springs is the lack of 6000FT Elevation! Which = More Power!
Yes, I took the K03s off and put on a K04-001 w/ TT225 injectors and tune. My down fall was the oem IC. I had pretty much everything else. Peak TQ came as early as 2900 rpm. I was peaking 25psi, holding 21 then tapered down around 5200 and up.
I'm really suprised how broad the TQ band is on your guys J32's. I thought there would be much much more slope to it.
I do have to say it is cold as shit right now. Also THE ONLY AND I SAY ONLY thing I like about Memphis over the Springs is the lack of 6000FT Elevation! Which = More Power!
torque band; it is natually aspirated afterall, so a broad powerband, but yeah it is basically a flatline except for vtec engageing and such (but idk what that dip at 3800 is though, but something major; only thing i can think of it is vtec, then the upper dip is the manifold runner control)
and elevation wise, more boost, or more spray can always help make up for that
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-13-2010 at 02:17 PM.
#58
still a small as hell turbo, with awesome response, but yeah still chokes out at upper rpms
torque band; it is natually aspirated afterall, so a broad powerband, but yeah it is basically a flatline except for vtec engageing and such (but idk what that dip at 3800 is though, but something major; only thing i can think of it is vtec, then the upper dip is the manifold runner control)
and elevation wise, more boost, or more spray can always help make up for that
torque band; it is natually aspirated afterall, so a broad powerband, but yeah it is basically a flatline except for vtec engageing and such (but idk what that dip at 3800 is though, but something major; only thing i can think of it is vtec, then the upper dip is the manifold runner control)
and elevation wise, more boost, or more spray can always help make up for that
The IMRC kicks in at 3800. thats what that dip is.
#60
i figure one or the other , and i don't know why i thought the imrc turned on alot later then that (something like 6k )
anyways that explains it then lol
edit, also imagine if that runner did not engage ever , with how fast the torque started to drop (or even if it ever stayed fully engaged, or how much less low end you would have...)
anyways that explains it then lol
edit, also imagine if that runner did not engage ever , with how fast the torque started to drop (or even if it ever stayed fully engaged, or how much less low end you would have...)
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-14-2010 at 12:07 AM.
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Then you would be able to adjust certain aspects of the cam timming. Like retarding your exhaust with out effecting the intake or vise versa, you could also put more valve overlap.
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#73
Thats what Vtec has done for years.
These are the things I'm refering to when talking about adjustments with a DOHC.
Overlap is set in a SOHC, it can not be adjusted.
I'm no engineer but for the life of me I can't see how timming between the intake and exhaust valve (IE when the valves open and close in relation to each other)would be adjustable in a sohc.
What are you refering to in the J37, do you have a link to an article I could read? Id like to read about what you are refering to.
#74
In what way does it adjust? In other words what is it adjusting? Lift?
Thats what Vtec has done for years.
These are the things I'm refering to when talking about adjustments with a DOHC.
Overlap is set in a SOHC, it can not be adjusted.
I'm no engineer but for the life of me I can't see how timming between the intake and exhaust valve (IE when the valves open and close in relation to each other)would be adjustable in a sohc.
What are you refering to in the J37, do you have a link to an article I could read? Id like to read about what you are refering to.
Thats what Vtec has done for years.
These are the things I'm refering to when talking about adjustments with a DOHC.
Overlap is set in a SOHC, it can not be adjusted.
I'm no engineer but for the life of me I can't see how timming between the intake and exhaust valve (IE when the valves open and close in relation to each other)would be adjustable in a sohc.
What are you refering to in the J37, do you have a link to an article I could read? Id like to read about what you are refering to.
iirc the HYBRID accord had a V6 with i-VTEC, but idk the extent of exactly what it had though as far as controllability and such (but iirc it had it plastered on the valve cover though)(and even then i think it was more for the displacement on demand system then anything)
even then it was only like a J30 though, so nowhere close to a 3.7 liter displacement
Last edited by friesm2000; 12-14-2010 at 11:04 PM.
#75
http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ac...-tl-powertrain
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
#76
something kinda like this CH46
if you look real closely, you can see how the lobes themselves are push onto the shaft itself (look at the grooves machined into the shaft itself at the base of the lobe) btw these are out of a ford modular engine (the 4.6 or 5.4)
if you look real closely, you can see how the lobes themselves are push onto the shaft itself (look at the grooves machined into the shaft itself at the base of the lobe) btw these are out of a ford modular engine (the 4.6 or 5.4)
#77
http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ac...-tl-powertrain
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
#78
Size and cost. The J series was originally in the Accord and they needed to keep the engine compact. This engine was also designed in the mid 90s, and DOHC wasn't a big priority for it at that time.
#79
Looks like your standard run of the mill hollow cam shaft to me.
#80
http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ac...-tl-powertrain
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
Ok after reading here I think Parasurfer is talking about J37 Vtec for both intake and exhaust valves on a sohc. I guess the J32a2 only has vtec on intake?
The things I said you could adjust with dohc are not the same adjustments that vtec deals with.
You can use my name btw... Thats why its at the bottom...lol
Last edited by ParaSurfer1979; 12-15-2010 at 07:56 AM.