Tom2

This was posted on the "magazine racer" thread, but I wanted to start a new thread because that one is too long as it is already.

This is copied and pasted from the other thread:

Originally posted by Xephyr2K:
Tom2,
Grow up.... 50% of race stories may be B.S. but you dont know all the facts unless you are there ..... the other half are true .... Stop trolling and enjoy your car .. its a great car..-BUT,IF ITS STOCK..,,,,, MY "MODDED CL-S" WILL BE AS INTIMATE WITH IT AS YOUR PROCTOLOGIST IS WITH YOU in a 1/4 mile..... fair race? ofcourse not ..... my sig shows only 1 mod ...(the only one you would noticeably hear on the street or track) Catch my point? P.S. - 1/4 in 14.4 to 14.5 is ONLY with the CAI.... come play w/me now.............


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First of all, I'm not trolling.

Secondly, I never said that my M3 is a quarter mile terror. It is not. As a matter of fact, it's better as an auto-X car than a drag strip car.

I see you live in NJ. I'm in NY, just a few miles North of the Jersey border.

Let's meet and see who really is faster. I'm calling you out, bud. Whadda ya say?

In the interest of fairness, I have to tell ya that my car is stock, but not totally so. I have a software upgrade that gives me a few more horsepower, disables the top speed governor and allows a higher redline, before I hit the rev limiter.

Stock, I ran a best of 13.9 at Englishtown Raceway. Now? Who knows, maybe a tenth of two better.

So shall we see who's gonna visit the proctologist now?

Let me know.

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Xephyr,
If you agree to this challenge, let's make it interesting.

If YOU beat me, I'll pay you for 3 of your intakes, to be given for free to any forum member that you choose.

But if I beat you, YOU give away 3 of your intakes to any forum members that I choose.

This way there's something at stake, and some members of this forum will benefit either way. Fair enough?

Also, if you want, we can do a "best out of 3" race, that way there won't be any excuses like "I got a bad launch" or anything.

Let me know.



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soopa

Now thats a challenge.

If NJ didn't smell so bad I would come watch

goldn1

um... who cares? fire=bad. cars=go fast.

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2001 Acura CL Type S, black/ebony, spoiler, 35% tint, V1, comptech springs, weather mats, piaa19170-doors, piaa19169-road lamps, pia19168-map lights
aim:silvn1
goldn1

Rod

I could use an intake.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
Satin Silver Metallic/Ebony

Stock, for now at least.

Crippen

Cool, now that is a good challenge

I like your style Tom


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CLpower

i could use an intake, my CLpower CAI seems to be falling apart

Arik

Sounds like a great idea, I want to see what is going to happen. However I highly doubt that its fair because both guys probably have mods that they are not telling But in any case I want to see this race

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2001 Silver CL-S w/o NAVI

...Get-in, sit down, shut up, HOLD ON....

soopa

If I come to watch do I get one of the CAIs?

I guess I can bare the Jersey stink for a lil while.

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San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

M5 Lite

I stand behind Tom2 all the way. Kick some butt bud and win some of our fellow Acura buddies some intakes.

The guy is probably asking comptech to build a supercharger, and fast!!! before the race.

BMW ///M Power!

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Mercury

What year M3? And can we change the purple?

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Silver S
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Valentine 1 (Hard wired)

soopa

Re-zis-tance is futile!

M5 Lite

Doesn't matter what year M3. I think Tom has a '98 E36. As long as its not a '95 M3, then with its chip upgrade they are all the same in the E36 class. Now, if Tom 'had' the '95 M3 with the chip upgrade (hehe, devil within).

Thats my next car, the '95 M3. I can feel the power now...Once again, go get em Tom!

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Mercury

So the chip in a 98 does nothing?

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Tom2

Mine is a 99 M3, 2 door hardtop.

M3Sins, If you're interested, I've noticed a guy in my area selling a mint condition 95 M3 with only 15K miles. I don't remember his asking price. I think the color was red. Don't remember much else. If you're interested, I'll see if I can find the ad.




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Tom2

Soopa,

When I win, er uh, I mean IF I win , I definitely think you should get a free intake. After all, you're the guy that bought us this forum, right?

Actually, if I were Chris, I would've given you one as a comp, just because of the sales that your website generated for me. Seems like good business to me.........

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CLpower

i bet it still takes 3 months to get the intake after one of you guys wins

M5 Lite

That would be great if you can get me more info on that car. 15k miles! Wow! Thats amazing. I'm also trying to hunt down a '95 Lightweight M3 (hard as hell to find for a good price).

Thanks



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NOVAwhiteTypeS

W/ out headers, I'm going to have to be on Tom's side. also since his m3 is stick I wouldn't really race him. But still up to u.

I suggest u get some Z rated tires Quick.

I could use an intake too.

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White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.

gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

NOVAwhiteTypeS

The only time I was able to pull hard on my buddies auto m3 was when I was in 'header' rpm 5000k +. also, go take yo spare tire out and other junk u don't need. this should be fun.

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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.

gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

Mercury

The race isn't even fair, chip vs no chip? I do want to see this though! Just for fun no prizes.

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Valentine 1 (Hard wired)

buddha

This would be a very interesting race. I have the AEM and raced a buddy of mine with a 99 M3. He has the software upgrade, Dinan CAI and UUC short shifter. Before CAI, he walked away from me. After CAI, we had a race where I was only half a car length behind. Granted it was pretty cool out. I have NEVER beaten him. But since Tom only has the software upgrade it would be pretty interesting. I still think that there's no way in hell that a CL-S can take 2 out of 3 from a 99 M3.
The problem that the CL-S has is that the M3 takes us off the line until we hit VTEC. Once in VTEC, we can acutally gain some ground. We also get some more back when he shifts, but then we lose some when we shift. The advantage is off the launch.
So if the CL-S has better tires, a good launch and VFAC controller to lower shift point from 4800 to 4300 and CAI. I can see it maybe slightly edging an M3 with only software upgrade.
Go and race!!!!!!!!!! Video tape it also!

Tom2

Not fair? He has his infamous intake. Plus he hints that he's got other mods that wouldn't be noticeable on the street or track.

My car ONLY has a software upgrade, no other mods at all. Let's not forget that Xephyr said to me, "come play w/me now".

If has his intake, plus headers and exhaust, it probably will be a decent race. NOS, on the other hand, would be unfair, IMO. I'm not running NOS, so I think in fairness, he should not be either......



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wireless

As someone who only reads these amusing bravado stories, it is rare for me to post. But considering that I find the betting reward rather unfair, I'll speak up.

Xephyr can't make these things fast enough. Thus he does not need you to buy any. Also, you might be giving them to someone who would have bought one eventually. So if you really want to bet TomTom, why don't you promise to answer his phones, email and posts for a month. Heck, you can even wear your skirt.

I'm afraid a psychologist and 12 months would be required to find out why you are so enamored with dissing the CL-S. And I know, you owned one before. That is probably where your angst started.

On the playground of car enthusiasts, there are no rules so keep posting! Ok, back to read only mode.

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Silver w/ everything but wind deflector and navi. Aftermarket wood trim package, polarg M6, PIAA 19170 on doors, Zaino shine.
Waiting on headers, CAI, sways and new tires (which ones??)

tel1sps

I'll come and take pics for the list

Lets do it.....

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

Mercury

I willing to race for fun, only got the xeph intake and nothing else but I'm not putting anything on the line.

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Silver S
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Valentine 1 (Hard wired)

CLpower

come out to cali and let me join in on this race

tel1sps

Your invited to sunny NJ



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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

spiroh

Are you guys smoking crack? A CL-S with an intake vs a sharked M3 w/stick.

96-99 M3,
M coupe,
M Roadster* 14hp @ 6000
250 / 264 34 @ 6000 39ft/lbs @ 4000
237 / 276 40 @ 4500 7000

I know I would be stupid to race.

Spiro

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4thGSi

Hay, Tom if you win who would be in your top 3 list of people who will get the free intake?
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How about u Xephyr if u win you who would be the 3 lucky people to get the free intake?

Pls.. Pick me Pick me need intake need intake

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1990Si
2001CL-S

Rod

To be fair, it should be done by the order of people who posted to this thread.

MCHM3

i dont know how xephry says he beat a 97 m3 with only intake.......i beat a 95 m3(3.0) stick but i had headers he only has intake and he says he beat a 97-98 m3 tom if u lose which u wont i wouldnt post here anymore but i know u will win plus i dont think xypher is gonna respond

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2001 3.5 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter, dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished, vtec timing

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

[This message has been edited by mchtypeS (edited 04-24-2001).]

M5 Lite

Still no response from Xypher? Damn it! I want pics and a summary of who won or lost.

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Xephyr2K

******* Amused reading this on the beach ********

Tom2: If you want to quote me .. then do so .. but use the entire message .... not clippings you find pertinent. My post clearly said "apples to apples" and once you begin adding mods you no longer are racing in the same class..... And I clearly said I am modded ..... But you still pushed the issue ............ BTW: Why would you upgrade the software w/o Dinan intake, exhaust, short throw shift...etc....- Realistically that commits you to running 92+ octane with little gain...- again whatever works for you. Take the time to re-read my original post before putting any more then pride on the line .... remember ... apples .. apples....

Besides NOS does anything else seem unfair ? Should I reduce displacement , understroke, swap heads, remove headers, remove induction, can the computer,no slicks ? ....... Catch where I am going with this? I'll reiterate my original statement .. The CL-S is an all around performer with value, comfort, and great performance.... STOCK.... with enough time and money even a civic can run a 8.684 sec 1/4 mile and beat any stock production car made to date. Rethink my posts and catch the idea most people here already know.... The CL-S is an all around great car... Every race is 90% driver .... stock M's are fast ... but ... left stock can lose to a modded car w/a better driver... PERIOD.... conversely a CL-S could lose to a pinto ......

I'll leave it like this.... if you want to run the cars .... Set up a meet this summer ... I'm not taking anything off the car ... I don't give items away - I'm in business to turn a profit . I give breaks to members that are genuine and here to add useful info whenever I can... Meanwhile invest in a Dinan stage 3 kit then you can surely win all your races... most people here could care less whether or not an M can beat a CL-S... if they wanted the trade off they too would have bought a used M rather then a new CL-S.

Poobah - I'm thinking a englishtown meet end of June - begining of July

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2001 Nighthawk Black CLS Type S - Xephyr Performance CAI, PIAA 19173(Yellow) Road Lamp Upgrades, Full Wood Trim, Spoiler, 1/4 Mile in 14.424@97.23 MPH Atco Raceway Best GTECH Sprint 6.05 Xephyr Performance Intakes

GoldTypeS_RENAMED

Funny... I was thinking the same thing. It's also amusing that Tom2 accused me of the same thing about 2 days ago.

Does the credibility ever start?

mishka420

i think Tom2 should come out to Cali......lets see how he handles it out here.

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eclipse23

Tom,

You know for a fact that your M3 has a greater chance of beating a CLS with just an intake. Especially since you have those extra mods. Secondly, why are you soo intent on proving this to us? Why are you putting money on this as well? Just race your car for fun, don't make this complicated, I've seen plenty of races go from friendly bets to all out brawls over chump change. I would hate to see you, as a fellow board member lose money, or Chris, who is already tight on his margin with his product lose inventory. I read his post and your response and honestly, your kinda picking and chosing his words. Either way just race em' for fun in my opinion.

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M5 Lite

Well looks like this deal turned sour. How is coming out to Cali going to turn things around? What is so different in Cali than in NJ? Same type of road, a little different temp. Oh well, why beat a dead horse even more!? Looks like no ones getting anything free

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eclipse23

Man, you M3 guys can be annoying, go polish your bavarian beast and leave us drag-luxo-ricers alone

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dboy619

Okay children... Play nice now... Both cars are really fast and both cars are really nice but did you see Lennox Lewis hit the floor on Saturday...

eclipse23

Yeah, I am now $300 dollars richer due to that bitch!

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