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Old 05-09-2001, 12:29 PM
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Worrying about other cars

You guys sure worry a lot about other cars. I mean, that's just auto-evolution. I am almost 100% positive that Honda/Acura is well aware of what the other manufacturers are doing and will counter every move. No need to worry about it now, enjoy what you have.

And, remember this:

1.) When you buy a fast car, there's always a faster one just around the corner.

2.) When you buy a car with a lot of free "options," there will always be one just around the corner with more.

3.) When you only paid $30k for your car because it was the best deal around, there's gonna be better deals just around the corner.


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AMEN.... the same thing is happening at the TL forum. It's rediculous. Everytime a news story comes out about a new car (Maxima, Sentra, etc.) there's a topic about it and about 25 replies all saying how that car will be better then theirs, etc. It's rediculous. All I can say is thank god no one on either of these boards is on a computer bulletin board. They would be posting topics every 3 hours about new and better stuff.....



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It's like buying pc's and telling people ya got the fastest processor lol

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I think unlike many members here I am totally happy with my purchase and really don't care about the competition.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by juniorbean:
Everytime a news story comes out about a new car (Maxima, Sentra, etc.) there's a topic about it and about 25 replies all saying how that car will be better then theirs, etc.</font>
Yeh, and they always seem to be posted by - gavriil!


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"I think unlike many members here I am totally happy with my purchase and really don't care about the competition."


I totaly agree with you man....
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Just like the computer hardware market: your product will be outclassed as soon as you buy it.

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Yeh, it's impossible to keep up with technology. A brand new computer bought today will be ancient within 6 months!!!


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I think thats what keeps people spending their money, if everyone is satisfied with what they got, then they would not make new and better models and changes.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:
You guys sure worry a lot about other cars. I mean, that's just auto-evolution. I am almost 100% positive that Honda/Acura is well aware of what the other manufacturers are doing and will counter every move. No need to worry about it now, enjoy what you have.

And, remember this:

1.) When you buy a fast car, there's always a faster one just around the corner.

2.) When you buy a car with a lot of free "options," there will always be one just around the corner with more.

3.) When you only paid $30k for your car because it was the best deal around, there's gonna be better deals just around the corner.


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What? Why wasn't I informed? I can't believe this! That's it, I'm selling this POS and buying a Thunderbird!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
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Damn I thought I was the king of the world when I first bought my Athlon 1GHz...oh well.

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Ya...I think of the new Max and go "SHIT!!", but then I look at my baby..sitting in her raked stance and hear the VTEC humming...ahhh!! Makes me fall in love over and over again...then I hit 4th gear..HAHAHAH

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It's always the single people who complain.....

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Cause we have nothing else to baby....besides...the car is cheaper than a real gf and only gives you love back...
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
It's always the single people who complain.....

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Really? I posted this thread and I'm single. I think it's the YOUNG people that complain.

They just don't realize how good they have it nowadays.


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It's because for all the money that I make...(not much)...I still can't afford to get a house in the Bay Area...
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:

Really? I posted this thread and I'm single. I think it's the YOUNG people that complain.

They just don't realize how good they have it nowadays.


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very true. there's always someone out there with bigger and better things than you. buy a bike. thats what i'm gonna do. that way you can smoke all the rice and rustangs out there.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gmilian:
very true. there's always someone out there with bigger and better things than you. buy a bike. thats what i'm gonna do. that way you can smoke all the rice and rustangs out there.

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I had a superbike for 16 years and that's just what I did. Although, I only raced cars when they messed with me.... and 90% of the time it was some punk kid in a Mustang. Idiots!

But, like cars, there's always a faster bike just around the corner.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:

Really? I posted this thread and I'm single. I think it's the YOUNG people that complain.

They just don't realize how good they have it nowadays.


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really ? I'm 20 and I usually don't complain.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
really ? I'm 20 and I usually don't complain.

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Well, the problem with this board is, we need more old guys in here!

Hell, at least 80% of the members here are under 25. Maybe it's because so many of us old farts are computer illiterate (someone else's analogy, not mine).


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Beach-CL:
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I was flipping thru the Dupont Reg. and you can actually upgrade your car. There is a company in there that will change your, say 1990 mercedes to a 2000 model. Well the outside atleast kinda cool



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:
Well, the problem with this board is, we need more old guys in here!

Hell, at least 80% of the members here are under 25. Maybe it's because so many of us old farts are computer illiterate (someone else's analogy, not mine).

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Hey watch it there youngun....I'm an ol' fart! Computer literate and all. I complain and bitch with the best of them.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:

Really? I posted this thread and I'm single. I think it's the YOUNG people that complain.

They just don't realize how good they have it nowadays.

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OMG you are so right! "They just don't realize how good they have it nowadays." If I were driving the likes of a CL, Type S even, when I was YOUNGer, I can't image how good life would have been....

You'll find out 10 years later when some 19 year old is driving a 2013 Acura QL Type X sticker $65,000, AWD, 410hp, ....

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First let me say that I am not complaining when I am posting new models coming out and make comments about them.

I disagree with Eclipse about not careing about the competition. On the contrary. Acura has come up with our cars because of competition. I mean this is a major statement that goes agains capitalism. Competition is what makes industries not being monopolies and our society a democracy and betters peoples' lives.

Competition is the reason why the NSX will be a better car in 2003 and the reason cars get new platfomrs every 4-6 years and get better and better.

Now. It is also important for us to follow what the competition is doing if we wonna call ourselves enthusiasts OR even if we wonna claim that we love our cars more than the average Acura owner. Why? I said before and I will say it again:

FOLLOWING THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR CAR BETTER.

I will expand on that by adding...it also helps you understand your NEXT car better which will help you make the decision of WHICH is going to be your next car.

In other words, I am not an Acura fanatic. I am a fanatic of PROGRESS. Which progress is directly corelated with the principles of this country like INTENSE COMPETITION for the good of the consumer and free markets and trade.

Bottom line. If Infiniti came out with a 2 door coupe with the same characteristics as our CLS for less money...well...bye bye Acura. To me there are no camps...this is not the Bulls vs the Nicks. This is about "HOW MUCH CAR CAN I BUY FOR MY MONEY". It is about value. Of course it is about more things like looks, style, name/image, etc. But VALUE is the most important thing for me. And if it were for all of us, the M3 would cost $40K and would $0 premiums cos there would have been resistance to pay the $63K I saw it today advertised on the fricking Chicago Tribune. Can you imagine the nerve of that dealer? Well...it is not him...it is us, the consumers who let them do this to us.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gto2050:
Hey watch it there youngun....I'm an ol' fart! Computer literate and all. I complain and bitch with the best of them.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
First let me say that I am not complaining when I am posting new models coming out and make comments about them.

I disagree with Eclipse about not careing about the competition. On the contrary. Acura has come up with our cars because of competition. I mean this is a major statement that goes agains capitalism. Competition is what makes industries not being monopolies and our society a democracy and betters peoples' lives.

Competition is the reason why the NSX will be a better car in 2003 and the reason cars get new platfomrs every 4-6 years and get better and better.

Now. It is also important for us to follow what the competition is doing if we wonna call ourselves enthusiasts OR even if we wonna claim that we love our cars more than the average Acura owner. Why? I said before and I will say it again:

FOLLOWING THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR CAR BETTER.

I will expand on that by adding...it also helps you understand your NEXT car better which will help you make the decision of WHICH is going to be your next car.

In other words, I am not an Acura fanatic. I am a fanatic of PROGRESS. Which progress is directly corelated with the principles of this country like INTENSE COMPETITION for the good of the consumer and free markets and trade.

Bottom line. If Infiniti came out with a 2 door coupe with the same characteristics as our CLS for less money...well...bye bye Acura. To me there are no camps...this is not the Bulls vs the Nicks. This is about "HOW MUCH CAR CAN I BUY FOR MY MONEY". It is about value. Of course it is about more things like looks, style, name/image, etc. But VALUE is the most important thing for me. And if it were for all of us, the M3 would cost $40K and would $0 premiums cos there would have been resistance to pay the $63K I saw it today advertised on the fricking Chicago Tribune. Can you imagine the nerve of that dealer? Well...it is not him...it is us, the consumers who let them do this to us.

Anyway, I made several important points above so let's hear it. I know it is coming.

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As for me, I'm just getting tired of hearing the same old complaints over and over again. Yeh, I know, I could just skip over those posts (and I usually do), but it's still annoying. I've certainly made my fair share of complaints, but they were back in January and February when this board was new. Now, newbies on this board are posting this same stuff over and over. Blah!

Anyway, this is an ACURA/HONDA/CL board and doesn't really need to be polluted with a bunch of rumors about what other car manufacturers have planned for their CL/TL/RL competitors. I don't care about that stuff, that's just auto-evolution.

Sorry for the soapbox stance. Just giving my two cents if you care to read it.




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Gavrill -- I totally agree --

You wanna know why I bought the TL-S??? You'll love this one: I was really interested in finally driving a car that had some balls -- so I came onto this site called www.acura-cl.com and went STRAIGHT to the Racing Stories!! As soon as I heard it was a dead-even race b/w a GTP and the CL-S, I put $1000.00 on the TL-S. Furthermore, I loved what I read about the mods available for under$1500.00 for the 3.2-S engine. Gavrill, can't agree with you more -- knowing ABOUT the competition will certainly affect, to some degree or another, your next auto purchase. It certainly did for me.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
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I remember PC-Mag -- they would have this article about all of the poor suckers that were running a 133 Pentium, when the "real man" applications needed a 166.

Then, it was got to have a 200 MMX -- got to pull out that $1000 and boy, pity those poor loosers with their 166 Pentiums.

And on, and on, and on, and on.....

I pulled around some cars (like they were stopped) the other day in 90 degree heat, and though back to the seventies and just chuckled like crazy. I would have to a bought a "super-car" to have gotten JUST the acceleration and handling.

Forget about the ride, goodies, NAVI, and all the great features.

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Old 05-10-2001, 10:57 AM
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So I guess, life sux and then you die?

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Old 05-11-2001, 02:39 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gto2050:
So I guess, life sux and then you die?

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Life does not suck and then you die. On the contrary. Competition makes life not suck cos you know that your next car will better than your current car for not more money.

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