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I have an 02 auto CL type S with headers, intake.
My friend Jared has an 03 350z stock, automatic.
And my friend Mike has an automatic Lexus GS400 stock.
Im taking my car to the drag. I know it depends on the driver. But theoreticallaly should I beat them? I want to serve them sum whoopass....
My friend Jared has an 03 350z stock, automatic.
And my friend Mike has an automatic Lexus GS400 stock.
Im taking my car to the drag. I know it depends on the driver. But theoreticallaly should I beat them? I want to serve them sum whoopass....
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
I don't fucking think so bub.
I don't fucking think so bub.
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If it was a GS430 I'd say it'd be a close race, but you shouldnt have too much problem with a stock GS400. Auto 350Z's run what, like mid 14's so that'll be a good race. Its all gonna depend on how good you can launch. If you botch the launch either car has enough power to walk you until the finish line. If you get a good jump you should be very close if not winning each race.
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GS430 engine isn't much better then a GS400 engine. The difference is 15ft/lbs.
Interestingly enough edmunds rates teh GS430 at 6.3s to 0-60 and the GS400 5.4s to 60.
I think the GS400 will pull away from you. You maybe able to catch up in the end if its a long enough race.
Interestingly enough edmunds rates teh GS430 at 6.3s to 0-60 and the GS400 5.4s to 60.
I think the GS400 will pull away from you. You maybe able to catch up in the end if its a long enough race.
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350z auto should run low 14s ....a cls with intake and headers will run at best low 14s ,but on average mid 14s so it will be close ,,in the 1/4 but up top the z will pull
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Originally posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
You may have the GS to 95 or so but after 100 it will pull away.
You may have the GS to 95 or so but after 100 it will pull away.
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Originally posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
You may have the GS to 95 or so but after 100 it will pull away.
You may have the GS to 95 or so but after 100 it will pull away.
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Originally posted by blader
After 100!?!? WHAT? Are they doing highway runs or the quarter mile? None of those cars should make it to over 100 in the quarter... and barely over 95. I ran a 14.17 @ 98.5mph, 2.17 60ft. Unless they're running nitrous. My friend with 01 CLS all stock except K&N drop in and 50 shot ran 14.2 at 101.
After 100!?!? WHAT? Are they doing highway runs or the quarter mile? None of those cars should make it to over 100 in the quarter... and barely over 95. I ran a 14.17 @ 98.5mph, 2.17 60ft. Unless they're running nitrous. My friend with 01 CLS all stock except K&N drop in and 50 shot ran 14.2 at 101.
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I have raced an auto NSX and I beat it by about 1 car to about 105mph. That same NSX beat a GS430 by about another car to about 100mph. I have not personally race that GS430 but they are both my good friends, so I know they won't B.S. me. At the time of the race I only have a cold air intake, port/polish intake and headers. In my opinion, the reason they lost was during the launch. NSX have no low end torque, which explain the slow launch. That GS430 have a delay in the trottle and would take .5 second to even move off the line. If it was a rolling start race, I think we all would be dead even.
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Don't listen to these guys . . . you should beat a stock GS400 with your mods.
For you guys who are soooo quick to cut this guys down . . . get your facts before slamming him. We've already had posts with vids of a GS400s going down.![Punch](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/punch.gif)
Matter of fact, I've posted better times without and with an icebox than the race that we have the video of the GS400 going down to a CLS 6speed.
So go kick some GS400 butt!![Boink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/boink.gif)
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For you guys who are soooo quick to cut this guys down . . . get your facts before slamming him. We've already had posts with vids of a GS400s going down.
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Matter of fact, I've posted better times without and with an icebox than the race that we have the video of the GS400 going down to a CLS 6speed.
So go kick some GS400 butt!
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Originally posted by RUF87
Lex 'ol buddy. I'm sure you're just talking about the 350z. :P
By the way, I did finally meet up with a GS400 and as I expected, I took him, but not by a bunch. Just about a car length or so. So a close race for the most part. At the track I would have probably beat him by 1 1/2 or more based on my past track experiences.![Nod](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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Lex 'ol buddy. I'm sure you're just talking about the 350z. :P
By the way, I did finally meet up with a GS400 and as I expected, I took him, but not by a bunch. Just about a car length or so. So a close race for the most part. At the track I would have probably beat him by 1 1/2 or more based on my past track experiences.
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sorry, but i own a GS4 and after many runs, i am completely tied with a g35c with manual, and he learned to shift much better so he takes my tl(when it had just i/h/ and cpulley) i can barely beat him with TL, but the GS holds it own the WHOLE way.
unless you are running any faster than 14.4 at the track, i dont think you will win either of them. but get the launch and you will do well. otherwise, both of them have the HP advantage.
unless you are running any faster than 14.4 at the track, i dont think you will win either of them. but get the launch and you will do well. otherwise, both of them have the HP advantage.
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Originally posted by power3dfx
sorry, but i own a GS4 and after many runs, i am completely tied with a g35c with manual, and he learned to shift much better so he takes my tl(when it had just i/h/ and cpulley) i can barely beat him with TL, but the GS holds it own the WHOLE way.
unless you are running any faster than 14.4 at the track, i dont think you will win either of them. but get the launch and you will do well. otherwise, both of them have the HP advantage.
sorry, but i own a GS4 and after many runs, i am completely tied with a g35c with manual, and he learned to shift much better so he takes my tl(when it had just i/h/ and cpulley) i can barely beat him with TL, but the GS holds it own the WHOLE way.
unless you are running any faster than 14.4 at the track, i dont think you will win either of them. but get the launch and you will do well. otherwise, both of them have the HP advantage.
And we had the vids of the SC430 to back up the results as well as vids of the GS400 going down to the CLS . . both times.
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Originally posted by RUF87
auto G35C with S/C at the track. Technically only the G35C had faster times than me, but he wasn't a really good driver so I took him off the line and the shifts.
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auto G35C with S/C at the track. Technically only the G35C had faster times than me, but he wasn't a really good driver so I took him off the line and the shifts.
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Originally posted by SilverBullet
bs, there is no way you can beat a G35 Coupe that is supercharged even if its a auto. That car puts down over 320-330 at the wheels.
bs, there is no way you can beat a G35 Coupe that is supercharged even if its a auto. That car puts down over 320-330 at the wheels.
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Originally posted by RUF87
Whatever man . . I just hope no one takes your sucker away from you either. . . :P It also goes to prove how little you really know about drag racing as well.![Punch](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/punch.gif)
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Whatever man . . I just hope no one takes your sucker away from you either. . . :P It also goes to prove how little you really know about drag racing as well.
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Originally posted by RUF87
Whatever man . . I just hope no one takes your sucker away from you either. . . :P
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Whatever man . . I just hope no one takes your sucker away from you either. . . :P
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Originally posted by SilverBullet
Okay, so what do you run at the track? What is your hp to the wheels and tq? Please post some dyno runs. Or is this rice racing?
Okay, so what do you run at the track? What is your hp to the wheels and tq? Please post some dyno runs. Or is this rice racing?
The G35C belonged to the president of the DFW Infinity Club. It's a tight red with custom grill. He admitted that he wasn't good at the track with it and had one of his friends drive it, but he was kind of new at it as well.
So for all the haters and slammers, notice my first post said he had the faster car, but lost the race becuase of several factors.
In drag racing there is no guarantee that the faster car will win . . . other wise why race at all.
As for my dyno, I've not had one since I added the icebox and a couple of other mods in addition to light weight wheels & tires. Any guy in our group will tell you that even with light wheels & tires I was one of the quickest CLS/TLSes out there. Beating guy with headers regularly. My best time with just the wheels was a 14.65, so with the icebox and such I'm in the 14.5 range consistently.
BTW - the wheels don't add HP, but they don't rob you of HP.
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Originally posted by RUF87
Hate to burst your bubble, but I have beat a GS400 on the streat, and a couple of SC430s and an auto G35C with S/C at the track. Technically only the G35C had faster times than me, but he wasn't a really good driver so I took him off the line and the shifts.
And we had the vids of the SC430 to back up the results as well as vids of the GS400 going down to the CLS . . both times.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but I have beat a GS400 on the streat, and a couple of SC430s and an auto G35C with S/C at the track. Technically only the G35C had faster times than me, but he wasn't a really good driver so I took him off the line and the shifts.
And we had the vids of the SC430 to back up the results as well as vids of the GS400 going down to the CLS . . both times.
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Originally posted by power3dfx
Just like many other street experiences, and your experience with people who obviously cant drive... then i can believe you took the GS4. But i own both cars, and i know exactly what both cars are capable of. my tl runs 14.4 at the track, and the GS actually did better against the G. we did many runs, so i can say the GS and TL are practically equal. however, you are running a 1/10 second over me, so unless the GS driver doesnt know how to drive somehow (the GS gets its best run using plain auto mode, so all you do is floor it), there is no chance of you winning him. did he run a better time than you or did you cross first?
Just like many other street experiences, and your experience with people who obviously cant drive... then i can believe you took the GS4. But i own both cars, and i know exactly what both cars are capable of. my tl runs 14.4 at the track, and the GS actually did better against the G. we did many runs, so i can say the GS and TL are practically equal. however, you are running a 1/10 second over me, so unless the GS driver doesnt know how to drive somehow (the GS gets its best run using plain auto mode, so all you do is floor it), there is no chance of you winning him. did he run a better time than you or did you cross first?
And Lex is an ol bud of mine on these boards. We've had this discussion a long time ago when I first got my TLS. I've been waiting a long time to hook up with a GS400 just to find out first hand. It's a bit tougher on the street, but at the track I'm usually pretty tough to beat unless the other car is a lot faster. As was the case with the G35C with S/C . . I had over 1/2 sec better reaction time and after the 60' point I had something like .76 secs advantage on him and he didn't have enough track to catch me . . but I could see him coming on and would have caught me easily after the 1/4.
BTW - no disrespect here. Just get tired of the quick slams by folks who haven't had the years of experience at this like I have . . . started in 1976, so I've been hot rodding and racing for some time.
And I'd love to get a G35C myself . . . if I pull off the right trade. Love the body style and it has more mod options than the TLS
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Just race already Sushi. If possible, videotape it.
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Originally posted by SilverBullet
bs, there is no way you can beat a G35 Coupe that is supercharged even if its a auto. That car puts down over 320-330 at the wheels.
bs, there is no way you can beat a G35 Coupe that is supercharged even if its a auto. That car puts down over 320-330 at the wheels.
The Auto G's are fast to begin with and now you still beat a S/C G?
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Damn that guy really must not know how to drive.
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not trying to be a co-signee here, but yes, Ruf87 won, I saw it with my own eyes. anything can happen on the strip, especially when its street night (first one to cross the line wins).
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i believe what Ruf says.
shit happens, deal w/ it.
shit happens, deal w/ it.