scalbert

Yes...

typeR

you should max it out...but i find the most concistant numbers are achieved through SS ...the one happens automatically the 2-3 you wanna take right to the absolut limit...if you dont bump the rev limiter 5 out of 10 times you're probablly not going deep enough

p.s. when should i shift according to this dyno


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Nashua_Night_Hawk

If you shift at redline your rpms would drop to 4400-4500. Yes, it i best to shift at redline, however, if you shifted earloer by 200-300 rpms it is not a big deal.

Headers and Intake will realistically add some PEAK 25-30 WHP. With Mike's dyno it was close to 40 WHP, he had a tunable strong CLS-5AT.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

typeR,

I will fire up the drag racing analyzer and run it with your dyno.

Nashua

BBsAcuraRacing

You bought a slow ass cl. iT IS A SEMI LUXURY CRUISER WITH SOME PASSING POWER.

Not a drag strip car.......

Trust me I own one after having an 11sec 86 buick regal and a 12 second !995 Tbird SC

Nashua_Night_Hawk

TypeR,

With your dyno and T: 50F, RH: 30% AP: 30.5", Dry Density Alt: -1045'. and BT to 2400 rpms, shifting at 7100 rpms.

Tue Nov 25 03 6:16 pm
Time Slip For: 2001 Acura CLS Import moded 244 WHP TypeR Dyno

RT .500
60 ft 2.322
330 ft 6.062
1/8 ET 9.133
1/8 MPH 80.83
1000 ft 11.804
1/4 ET 14.052
1/4 MPH 100.55


If I let the computer select the shift points, it shifted at 7050 rpms

and.... no improvment.

Tue Nov 25 03 6:24 pm
Time Slip For: 2001 Acura CLS Import moded 244 WHP TypeR Dyno

RT .500
60 ft 2.323
330 ft 6.069
1/8 ET 9.145
1/8 MPH 80.67
1000 ft 11.821
1/4 ET 14.071
1/4 MPH 100.45

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Whoo Hoo! What's the fun in that? Everyone knows those cars can be built to be quick. Its more fun to run low 14s with bolt-ons while playing a CD on my 6-Disc In-dash changer and staying warm with my heated seats. Who wants to drive a 86 Buick anyways?

Also, I'm not building my car to be a "drag strip car." Just wanted to get the most performance out of my "semi luxury cruiser w/ some passing power"

If you really had no reason to reply other than to hate you need not reply again. I was looking for helpful responses, not ones bragging about a 20 year old Buick. :thumbsdn:

TL_Type_S

mrsteve.. nice run .. i ran a 15.3 and a 15.4 stock at 89mph...

i'm running 14.7 now w/ i/h ... haven't ran my car w/ the new tires, and exhaust

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

With my IMRC fixed... lower temp and humidity I should be well into 14.6-14.7

typeR

wow so im better then your computer...can you change the 60' to 1.90 and see what that changes...BTW my first day at the track with the 3.5 i went 9.145 in the 1/8th

darrinb

u only put down 244 type R??

seems low, the max power is at 6500 and slowly dies to fuel cut off

typeR

it only seem s low until you see me pulling away,,...honestly thats not my dyno...that was given to me by doug foss syncivic ..done on a tl with the same headers,intake,3.5L but i think it had 18s who knows how heavy...done in miami at who knows what temps and more importantly humidity...so i could be putting down more...maybe not...i may have to dyno once i get the wheels, UR, and uni chip...my goal is to achieve the 260/232 to the wheels

Nashua_Night_Hawk

I have trouble getting 1.9s in 60'!, you need more power or Converter Stalling at higher than 4500 rpms!

EricL

Area under the curve is what does it.

Ask typeR to dig-up the tape of the car burning the tires in first and second gear (with good tires).

Forget about peak/max HP unless you buy a 7-speed gearbox or CVT (or are interested in top-speed runs). Look to the tq/hp area gain (compared to stock) in the “useable” powerband.

The rod ratio is altered in a 3.5 and the intake air is moving a lot quicker at lower speeds (that longer stroke pulls on the air harder/earlier). Breathing at higher speeds becomes an issues and some upper end breathing design could push the peak HP a lot higher with a cam, head work, and other mods that would increase volumetric efficiency at 6K- to 7K- rpm.

red01cls

With my old car (Grand Prix GTP) I was seeing consistent 60 ft's of 1.8, 1.9, 2.0 being the worst of them...this was with bulletproof axles, LSD, and slicks....but since I'm new to the CL's...what is considered a good 60ft? I've been racing for years, mostly American, and haven't gotten the CL to the track...I have all winter and early spring to mod...tracks don't open around here until about March

scalbert

In stock form I was laying down 2.1 and an occaisional 2.0 with my old GTP. On my '01 CL-S I could hit 2.2 on a good day. Now with the 6-Speed the best I could muster was mid 2.3's. For both the manual and automatic, this seems to be about the average.

BTW, what year was your GTP and were you on the old Listserv Brian ran??

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Where in VA are you? If you are close to DC there is a track in Crofton, Maryland that is still open.


Oh and I was running 2.2 60's all day long. 1st time to the track too.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

mrsteve,

did you fix you CLS? is the IMRC replaced.

Nashua

allmotor_2000

Precisely... this is the key to making this car a monster

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Yes the IMRC was replaced by the dealer. I will be back at the track tomorrow to see how much of a difference it makes. Thanks

JRock

Voting "non-functioning IMRC" because my only "mod" was a hi-flow comptech air filter (and removed the resonator box from the intake path) and I was definitely in the (high) 14s. Then again maybe my car was strong and yours is a weak one?

NOVA had about 300lb weight disadvantage between our cars and he had CAI, headers, exhaust and I slightly pulled on him. Maybe it was a fluke but hey it happened.


edit - should have read the rest of the thread. so it was that. cool. glad that's fixed. =)

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

I'm headed back to the track today. High temp of 54. Humidity at 46%. Hoping for 14.7!! I'll post my slips when I get back this afternoon.

quikcls

you have no room to say shit dude! come back when you have a REAL car. i can't believe this guys nerve. "semi lux" rofl.. is that one of those west virginia mountain redneck wannabe insults/terminology?lol
a buick and a tbird huh :
i guess jealousy can really get to some people

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Went to the track. MUCH better results. See them here:

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122786