360

This my be a Dumb Question But
What does the P stand for?

IN CL-P

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Black Type-S

SFLA_Type-S

I think it means "Premium", but i'm not sure.

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'01 CL Type-S (no navi)
*Tafetta White/Parchment

• Comptech Headers
• Comptech Exhaust
• Comptech Springs
• AEM CAI W/Bypass Valve
• Polarg M6 Road Lamps

Chris

PREMIUM

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Acura 3.2CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Black/Ebony

H&R Sport Springs | Pirelli P7000 Supersport 235/40ZR17 on stock rims | Neuspeed Tower Strut Bar | Custom CAI | Cleared Headlights, PIAA 19169 | Tint all around | Mesh Grill | Dual 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs | Kenwood KAC-728S Amp | RÄZO real carbon pedals

amir was here

Premium Gas Only.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
35% Tint All Around
Black Wood Dash Kit
Sportswing spoiler
My Bitch
aka Deadly-CLs

"I come for the Car Talk, but stay for the Ramblings"
MOD @ WWW.POSTWHORES.COM

Iridium130

Premium

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_-Phil-_! (a.k.a. 'Green Box')
2K1 #10,029 Satin Silver CL-S since 6/13/00 named Laetitia with Navi! Mods : XEPHYR PERFORMANCE CAI~3M Reflective Tint(37%) tint~Hiper Hibrid Plasma "Xenon" road lamps & high-beams~Uniden LRD 6599SWS Radar Detector~Shine by Meguiar's Gold Wax~Member of the Scratched Rims Club~Upgraded cupholder ~

It's here...

SidVicious

anyone else feel the need to PW with the answer?


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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Mounted in the Trunk 'til the old one wears out) | Comptech Sways (on the way) | Sungard Tint (30% Sides, 20% Back) | DOM 11/2000 |

1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust |

{insert "Green Box 4 Mod!" gif here}

Type S Smokes All

no im good, but thanx for askin sid

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

ChodTheWacko

Poo



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'01 Aegean Blue CL S-Type w/Nav (Built 4/01)
2 Coats of Z5/Z6
acura-cl.com sticker
Yellow lobster
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CL FAQ: www.wizardsworks.org/chod/acura
70K and growing!

KavexTrax

Hey HEY hey HEY



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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Monterey Blue, Parchment interior
• Build date: 10/00. VIN 24225
• Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
• Polarg/PIAA super white interior lights *bling bling*
• HP Quantum 28 -- 31% metallic tint all around
• Planning: 17" rims w/ Bridgestone Potenzas (730),
Comptech Springs & Sways, V1
• [Photopoint Album Pics]
• [So.Cali. Nite Meet 5/17: Tustin Black Angus Pics]
• [So.Cali. Nite Meet 5/17: Tustin Black Angus Pics II]

Other
• [Yamaha Home Theater Gear]
• [DVD List]
• [June 3rd Sunday Cali. BBQ: Irvine Park]

Silver™

If P = poo

then S = Shit?!?

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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 06-15-2001).]

SatinCL

Pootie

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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33

DOM: 5/00

gto2050

Yes, I do and thanks for asking, Sid. Very considerate of you. I have no idea what the "P" stands for.

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior
Polished CAI
Polarg M6
Solaris 9005
Cupholder Ver 2.0 Part#77237-SOK-A02
DOM 3/2000


gto2050 (Mike) - The voice of absolutely no reason whatsoever!

RED-CLS

This is the official answer from Acura Corporate.

"The 'P' stands for too 'P'oor to afford the type_S.

J/K

I couldn't resist



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- Spoiler
- Valentine 1
- Wheel Locks
- 1 Maniac Driver (Me)

"Pedal to the Metal and Tach to the Line, I race my CL-S every time!!!"

BSK181

penis, its a girls car

j/k

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01 BLK/BLK CL-S, FACTORY SPOILER, K/N DROP IN V-1
dom 11/00
98 INFINITI I30T(auto)
99 MAXIMA SE(auto)
lazy shifter

SatinCL

bish puhleeze.



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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33

DOM: 5/00

white typeS

stands for PISSED

Cause thats what u are when you get spanked by a TYPE_S !!!!!!!!!!!

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White Type S

Silver™

The S in "Type-S" = Stupid

Becuase you spent $2,000+ for a car the goes 0-60 in .3 or .4 secs faster. Also you get surplus bowling ball wood trim and hairy seats with holes. And white guages straight out of a used Maxima or Chrysler. Wow, us CL-P people sure missed out on a lot of stuff

For that $2,000+ I could add:

Headers ($1000) and a CAI ($200) and some Springs ($200) and Sways ($300) and some Denso's and Pulleys ($300).

AkuraCLS

haha i think it's been answered like 10 times already..but 1 more for good luck
PREMIUM

JokerABC

Premium. duh.

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Black on black Type-S
no mods (i.e., not made into a hot rod)

aeon

Headers for $1000? Hmm, thougt they were $1100 now. CAI $200? You must have a gook hook-up. $300 for sways? Gee, I just checked and thought they were going for $329. I'm also assuming you own your own shop/tools where you were going to do all this labor yourself..

Oh yeah, and I think you forgot to mention a few other "options" that come with the S, like: 17" alloys, sport tuned suspension -more than a different set of springs, VSA--not minor in my book, tighter steering ratio, free(er) flowing exhaust, I'm sure there are a few more...

My seats are not hairy and going on 25K miles I'm not looking for them to turn so. The gauges are not white either-- take a look some time. So, maybe the salesmen tried to sell you a "Type Stupid" but that may be due to the large stamp on your forehead.

Oh, and I've been thinking of adding headers and an intake but don't want to spend too much so maybe you could help me out and get it all done for under $2,000...

(Not talking sh!t on CL-P's, just this guy--his post annoyed me)

Sypher

Ouch.

My hairy seats went bald after a week. I hope they didn't catch that from me.

Since no one has answered the question, I'll do it: P = Premium


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Sypher (www.sypher.com)
'01 Black CL Type-S
Valentine-1

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

I belive the P stands for PUSSY.
Cuz only pussies and females drive CL-P..

Silver™

Sorry that you have no hook-ups and have to pay retail for all the Mods. I can assure you that I, and many others can get those mods for those prices. I am not trying to bash the CL-S, I just want some respect for the CL-P. But it is obvious by your attitude that you feel stupid for wasting your money on a Type-S.

Many people with the CL-S have already had hairy seats. So perhaps your lucky. But most aren’t.

And sorry if you’re a color blind moron, but those are white gauges.
[img] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1673199&a=12830383&p=47997216&Sequence=0[/img]

Those stock 17” rims may look cool but scratch real easy and weigh a lot, so if you were truly concerned with performance you would replace those CL-S rims for some lighter 18” or 19” rims. So your point is stupid.

Yea, VSA kicks ass. That’s why everyone turns it off. If VSA was so great I think a few CL-S owners on this board would not have crashed already.

The CL-S has a “sport tuned suspension” but then why do all the performance oriented CL-S owners add springs and Sways???

Free flowing exhaust is OK, but once again a CL-P or CL-S owner who was really concerned with performance would add a Catback exhaust like Comptech.

So while it may be difficult for you to get Headers for $1,000, or a CAI for $200, or Sways for $300. Some of us have hook-ups. Lose the pompous attitude and maybe people will also be cool to you too.

Anyways, like I said is all I want is a little RESPECT for the CL-P owners.

Silver™

No need to get racial!!!

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

Silver CL-P why all the hating?
35 HP dont make us better then you?

Silver™

Umm, look at your quote from 15 mins ago.

Originally posted by StonedCL:
I belive the P stands for PUSSY.
Cuz only pussies and females drive CL-P..

Type-S owners are becoming like BMW drivers.



[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 06-15-2001).]

e1828

The 'P' in CL-P stands for Premium. Or was it for Puh-lease let me have a CL-S! Just playin' I have hairy seats and the pleasures of looking at my bowling ball trim..

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2001 Silver CL-S
DOM: 10/2000

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

Bro my head is just as small as my cock, so i have no big ego or nuttin..
Remember I had a CL-P for awile when my actular was not working!

aeon

Well, the only fair way to start this one off is a big NO, I'm not pissed--my car is PAID FOR so getting mad over something like $2k is pointless.

Now for your posted masterpeice:

"Sorry that you have no hook-ups and have to pay retail for all the Mods"
No, you're right I'm not giving the local speedshop guy lap dances on Friday nights--you've got me there.

"And sorry if you’re a color blind moron, but those are white gauges."
Well you've got pictures and I've got the car. Like I said earlier, take a look sometime and you might see that they are SILVER.

"Those stock 17” rims may look cool but scratch real easy and weigh a lot, so if you were truly concerned with performance you would replace those CL-S rims for some lighter 18” or 19” rims. So your point is stupid."
Wow, this ones a beauty. First off- I don't see 23-24 lbs' heavy, Secondly- I'm more than happy with the way they look and have never had a scratch. Thirdly- 18 or 19" rims do not necessarily equate performance.

"Yea, VSA kicks ass. That’s why everyone turns it off. If VSA was so great I think a few CL-S owners on this board would not have crashed already"
If you knew anything about VSA you could have saved yourself this one. We turn VSA off in rder to launch harder--saving the system from retarding the timing. VSA has saved my ass on two occassions for sure, you could equip a lawnmower with VSA and still manage to crash it. VSA has no defense against stupidity or adverse situations, it is a driving AID only.

"The CL-S has a “sport tuned suspension” but then why do all the performance oriented CL-S owners add springs and Sways???"
Vipers come from the factory as sub-12 second road mosters, but people still insist on supercharging and twi turbo set-ups.

"Free flowing exhaust is OK, but once again a CL-P or CL-S owner who was really concerned with performance would add a Catback exhaust like Comptech."
So I would have to be REALLY concerned with performance to dish out $665 for between 1-5 hp? I think there is another word for that, maybe I would do it to alter the note of the exhaust, but performance would be secondary at best.

"Some of us have hook-ups. Lose the pompous attitude and maybe people will also be cool to you too."
I'm not the one complaining about getting respect and could really care less how I am treated over the internet. I log on this forum at least twice a day, I look for new ideas and informations, helpful input and suggestions as well as to keep up with a few choice members whom I deem worthy. I DO NOT come here to be treated well or talk trash, actually it is rare that I even post anything. You Sir just happened to catch me at a sour moment.

Oh, and as for a pompous attitude? How about this:
"The S in "Type-S" = Stupid
Becuase you spent $2,000+ for a car the goes 0-60 in .3 or .4 secs faster. Also you get surplus bowling ball wood trim and hairy seats with holes. And white guages straight out of a used Maxima or Chrysler. Wow, us CL-P people sure missed out on a lot of stuff

For that $2,000+ I could add:

Headers ($1000) and a CAI ($200) and some Springs ($200) and Sways ($300) and some Denso's and Pulleys ($300). "

I give respect to PEOPLE, not cars...

[This message has been edited by aeon (edited 06-15-2001).]

aeon

That's actually a type-o.

Silver™

I would like to applogize for the post I am about to make. But aeon made this personal and I just want to take a minute to point out his stupidity.

Again this is not directed towards CL-S owners. Just dicks like aeon.

[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 06-15-2001).]

Silver™

NO, I'm not pissed--my car is PAID FOR so getting mad over something like $2k is pointless.
Wow, you, me, and half the people on this board have paid off our +/- $30K cars. Aren’t you just so special….

”Sorry that you have no hook-ups and have to pay retail for all the Mods"
No, you're right I'm not giving the local speedshop guy lap dances on Friday nights--you've got me there.

Pay attention to what I wrote. I wouldn’t pay full price for any of those mods. So I don’t think I am supporting their lap dances on Friday nights. All that I am saying is that you quote the MSRP of the mods. I didn’t pay MSRP for my car and I won’t pay MSRP for my mods. But I guess a schmuck like you has no choice.

"Those stock 17” rims may look cool but scratch real easy and weigh a lot, so if you were truly concerned with performance you would replace those CL-S rims for some lighter 18” or 19” rims. So your point is stupid."
Wow, this ones a beauty. First off- I don't see 23-24 lbs' heavy, Secondly- I'm more than happy with the way they look and have never had a scratch. Thirdly- 18 or 19" rims do not necessarily equate performance.

Well contrary to your ignorant belief, yes the CL-S rims are heavy. 25 lb rims are not featherweight. See: http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004645.html
Any rims over 20 lbs is a heavy rim if your talking about performance. People on this board have bought rims from 14-20 lbs and have noticed a noticeable difference. Also I never said that 18”-19” rims will always increase performance, but if your spending a couple thousand on some quality rims and tires you might as well go up a size or two. But you don’t have to.

"Yea, VSA kicks ass. That’s why everyone turns it off. If VSA was so great I think a few CL-S owners on this board would not have crashed already"
If you knew anything about VSA you could have saved yourself this one. We turn VSA off in rder to launch harder--saving the system from retarding the timing. VSA has saved my ass on two occassions for sure, you could equip a lawnmower with VSA and still manage to crash it. VSA has no defense against stupidity or adverse situations, it is a driving AID only.

Well I guess that shows that some people, like yourself, need a “Driving Aid” Your words not mine. If you want another “Driving Aid”, my grandpa has some of those curb feelers on his Cadilac I could give you.

If VSA was AWD then I would be jealous.

"The CL-S has a “sport tuned suspension” but then why do all the performance oriented CL-S owners add springs and Sways???"
Vipers come from the factory as sub-12 second road mosters, but people still insist on supercharging and twi turbo set-ups.

My point was that if I got a CL-P or a CL-S, I, as well as many others, would upgrade the suspension setup. So the fact that the CL-S come with a “sport tuned suspension” is a non-issue for most of us.

"Free flowing exhaust is OK, but once again a CL-P or CL-S owner who was really concerned with performance would add a Catback exhaust like Comptech."
So I would have to be REALLY concerned with performance to dish out $665 for between 1-5 hp? I think there is another word for that, maybe I would do it to alter the note of the exhaust, but performance would be secondary at best.

Yea, the CL-S sees about 3-4 hp but the CL-P gets about 10-12hp. So it make more of a diffence for the CL-P owners. And once again if only you weren’t such a jack ass then maybe you too could have some hook-ups and that exhaust become $475. hmmmm

I'm not the one complaining about getting respect and could really care less how I am treated over the internet. I log on this forum at least twice a day, I look for new ideas and informations, helpful input and suggestions as well as to keep up with a few choice members whom I deem worthy. I DO NOT come here to be treated well or talk trash, actually it is rare that I even post anything. You Sir just happened to catch me at a sour moment.

Oh, no. I caught you at a sour moment. I never said I wanted respect. All that I want is for some of the arrogant people on this board to realize that there is not that much of a difference between the CL-P and the CL-S. Your dumb ass wanted to make this personal and started an attack on me for stating my opinion. So I’m sorry that you have nothing better to do with you time than to instigate personal attacks on fellow members of this board. If you want to continue this I will be more than happy to oblige you. J

LAKERS RULE!!!!


[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 06-15-2001).]

ChodTheWacko

Yeah, well, he got CHOCOLATE in my peanut butter!



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'01 Aegean Blue CL S-Type w/Nav (Built 4/01)
2 Coats of Z5/Z6
acura-cl.com sticker
Yellow lobster
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CL FAQ: www.wizardsworks.org/chod/acura
70K and growing!

aeon

"Wow, you, me, and half the people on this board have paid off our +/- $30K cars. Aren’t you just so special…. "

Ok, so why is this $2k such a big deal to you and enough to make anyone who decies to go for the package "stupid"?


"Pay attention to what I wrote. I wouldn’t pay full price for any of those mods. So I don’t think I am supporting their lap dances on Friday nights. All that I am saying is that you quote the MSRP of the mods. I didn’t pay MSRP for my car and I won’t pay MSRP for my mods. But I guess a schmuck like you has no choice."

Nope, maybe your just naieve though. I was inferring that YOU gave the lap dances. And the difference between MSRP and what I would hypothetically pay won't make a sh!ts worth of difference to me and my schmuck self, at least not enough to cry about.


Well contrary to your ignorant belief, yes the CL-S rims are heavy. 25 lb rims are not featherweight. See: <http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004645.html>
Any rims over 20 lbs is a heavy rim if your talking about performance. People on this board have bought rims from 14-20 lbs and have noticed a noticeable difference. Also I never said that 18”-19” rims will always increase performance, but if your spending a couple thousand on some quality rims and tires you might as well go up a size or two. But you don’t have to.

The comparison here was between CL-P and CL-S, not CL-S and any thousand dollar rim you could think of. As I said before, I am more than happy with the stock rims ONE OF THE REASONS I BOUGHT THE CAR. ALSO PART OF THE EXTRA $2K. So go ahead and stack on a set of rims on your to do list.


Well I guess that shows that some people, like yourself, need a “Driving Aid" Your words not mine. If you want another “Driving Aid”, my grandpa has some of those curb feelers on his Cadilac I could give you.

I said I NEEDED VSA? Did I really? No, I said it has come in handy more than once. I even beleive that VSA helped prevent me from becoming personal with a concrete divider, more than pays for itself. It is a useful option, ALSO PART OF THE EXTRA $2K. And yeah, I've been looking for a good set of curb feelers...


"Yea, the CL-S sees about 3-4 hp but the CL-P gets about 10-12hp. So it make more of a diffence for the CL-P owners. And once again if only you weren’t such a jack ass then maybe you too could have some hook-ups and that exhaust become $475. hmmmm "

Ok, making it a (performance wise) near-useless addition on a CL-S. But for a P then it's worthy right? Ok, then add it to your list of things to do in addition or in place of the headers. As far as hook-ups are concerned, I can do alot better than a set of headers and a CAI.


"Oh, no. I caught you at a sour moment. I never said I wanted respect. All that I want is for some of the arrogant people on this board to realize that there is not that much of a difference between the CL-P and the CL-S. Your dumb ass wanted to make this personal and started an attack on me for stating my opinion. So I’m sorry that you have nothing better to do with you time than to instigate personal attacks on fellow members of this board. If you want to continue this I will be more than happy to oblige you. "

Never said you wanted respect? You mean you didn't say: "Anyways, like I said is all I want is a little RESPECT for the CL-P owners." I thought it was you--you being a P owner right? You have not stated any declared opinion at this point, but let's take a look at the highlights shall we?

"The S in "Type-S" = Stupid" --This one really showed me how clever you could really be.

"And white guages straight out of a used Maxima or Chrysler." --This one showed me how uninformed you actually were.

"And sorry if you’re a color blind moron, but those are white gauges." --This one showed me how persisant you were about being wrong and uninformed. This is also when the juvenile name calling started.

"so if you were truly concerned with performance you would replace those CL-S rims for some lighter 18” or 19” rims" --This one showed me that you were an expert on Performance and probably work for Nascar as a tampon engineer.

"I didn’t pay MSRP for my car and I won’t pay MSRP for my mods. But I guess a schmuck like you has no choice." --So who pays MSRP for cars these days? Oh, and the schmuck part really hurt my feelings...

"My point was that if I got a CL-P or a CL-S, I, as well as many others, would upgrade the suspension setup. So the fact that the CL-S come with a “sport tuned suspension” is a non-issue for most of us." --Oh, so your now the spokesperson for a large number of those who are on this board? Wait, make that most...I don't think so. Also, I believe changing the suspension requires a little more than just springs and sways, so you again might want to amend your little to do list.

"hmmmm " --I like this one.

As some advice though, continuing this probably wouldn't be the smartest move you have made lately. Your not proving anything except that your most likely very young and disgruntled every time you see a Type-S or someone asks you if your car is a Type-S when the find out you drive a CL. I bet you have been stewing over this for sometime now and have jumped at the oppertunity to prove to the world that your car is just as good as the next. CL-S or CL-P?-I personally couldn't care less, I bought my car so I wouldn't have to fool around with it--it's almost a rocket out of the box and I only plan on having it a few years so the S package was perfect for me and well worth it.
Your debate style is lacking and I am to be away from computers for the next 4 or 5 days so don't expect much attention. I will of course come back to find the jewel of a post I'm sure your going to cook up,

Next time though--to get your point across and not look like such a tool you might want to try and avoid name calling. "Moron", "Scmuck", and "Jackass" really don't do anything for your argument but they do paint something about you. Although I think from now on I will be referring to you as "Sally"--in reference to the way you argue, like a little school girl.

Good Day,

aeon

As a note to the rest of the board: I'm not trying to demean the CL-P or be an ass, I think we all got each of our cars for our own reasons. Somehow I have involved myself with Sally here and am amuzing myself at the systems expense, I do apologize for that.

Have a fair weekend.

Silver™

aeon has chosen to continue this so I will oblige him.

Silver™

Ok, so why is this $2k such a big deal to you and enough to make anyone who decies to go for the package "stupid"?

Use my quotes in their entire context please. Several people said that the P in CL-P stands for “Pussies” “Poor” “Poo” etc… So I jokingly said that the “S” in CL-S stands for stupid. I guess you have gone through much of your life being labled as stupid, so I can understand why that would offend you so much.

Nope, maybe your just naieve though. I was inferring that YOU gave the lap dances. And the difference between MSRP and what I would hypothetically pay won't make a sh!ts worth of difference to me and my schmuck self, at least not enough to cry about.

If you will get off of ass and look at the initial post you were the one who told me that my price quotes for mods were off. Headers for $1100 instead of $1000 or Comptech Sways for $329 instaed of $300. So you are the one who wanted to make an issue out of it.

I said I NEEDED VSA? Did I really? No, I said it has come in handy more than once. I even beleive that VSA helped prevent me from becoming personal with a concrete divider, more than pays for itself. It is a useful option, ALSO PART OF THE EXTRA $2K.

Well according to you, on a few occasions has helped you from having an accident. So I guess you need VSA, or perhaps it’s to much car for you?!?

Never said you wanted respect? You mean you didn't say: "Anyways, like I said is all I want is a little RESPECT for the CL-P owners." I thought it was you--you being a P owner right?

Well since cars are inanimate objects (that means that aren’t alive) the respect would generally go to the owners.

"so if you were truly concerned with performance you would replace those CL-S rims for some lighter 18” or 19” rims" --This one showed me that you were an expert on Performance and probably work for Nascar as a tampon engineer.

Okay dokay.

Anyways…Lighter rims = better performance. If you buy lighter rims you should probably go up a size or two.

So who pays MSRP for cars these days?

You are the one who was quoting MSRP for all the mods so I assumed that you would be stupid enough to pay MSRP on everything.

"My point was that if I got a CL-P or a CL-S, I, as well as many others, would upgrade the suspension setup. So the fact that the CL-S come with a “sport tuned suspension” is a non-issue for most of us." --Oh, so your now the spokesperson for a large number of those who are on this board? Wait, make that most...I don't think so. Also, I believe changing the suspension requires a little more than just springs and sways, so you again might want to amend your little to do list.

I am not the spokesman for this board. My exact quote was “I, as well as many others” that does not imply everyone. Does it jackass??? Anyways, most people who post on this board have at least Springs or Sways.

Also did I say completely remove the suspension and install some custom setup? Nope, all I said was to make some suspension mods.

Your not proving anything except that your most likely very young and disgruntled every time you see a Type-S or someone asks you if your car is a Type-S when the find out you drive a CL.

I did not just walk blind folded into the dealership and stumbled across a CL-P. I did a lot of shopping and comparing. The CL-P is $27-$29K a CL-S is $29-$31K. I think anyone who bought a CL-P could have afforded a whole $2K more, but we decided that the CL-P was what we wanted. Trust me there is no CL-S envy here. I give the CL-S respect, but I prefer my CL-P




[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 06-16-2001).]

aeon

Oh joy, I was hoping you hadn't wasted anytime because I don't have much. This will be fun though...

Since you seem to have a problem with straying from your original argument, probably becaue you can now see the fallacies in it I will take the liberty to redirect this as such:

"The S in "Type-S" = Stupid
Becuase you spent $2,000+ for a car the goes 0-60 in .3 or .4 secs faster. Also you get surplus bowling ball wood trim and hairy seats with holes. And white guages straight out of a used Maxima or Chrysler. Wow, us CL-P people sure missed out on a lot of stuff
For that $2,000+ I could add:

Headers ($1000) and a CAI ($200) and some Springs ($200) and Sways ($300) and some Denso's and Pulleys ($300)"

From this broken statement I can only imagine that you are trying to say that in some way we (S owners) are not getting what we paid for and that you (a P owner) could make up the difference for $2,0000 or less. So lets try this and see how it works.


"Use my quotes in their entire context please. Several people said that the P in CL-P stands for “Pussies” “Poor” “Poo” etc… So I jokingly said that the “S” in CL-S stands for stupid. I guess you have gone through much of your life being labled as stupid, so I can understand why that would offend you so much. "
--So I take it you have gone through most of your life being called a "Pussy"?


"Well since cars are inanimate objects (that means that aren’t alive) the respect would generally go to the owners"
--What? Let's see here Sally, You said RESPECT FOR THE CL-P OWNERS, how many times do we have to go over this...

"Well according to you, on a few occasions has helped you from having an accident. So I guess you need VSA, or perhaps it’s to much car for you?!?"

--It has, and I'm not the only one. Need VSA? Probably not, but again I'm also not one of the ones who has crashed my car yet. Perhaps it is too much car for me, but it might also be too much for you but you wouldn't know that would you...

"Trust me there is no CL-S envy here. I give the CL-S respect, but I prefer my CL-P"
--I thought you didn't give respect to "inanimate" objects. Also, if you are so content with your purchase, then why is it you feel your not getting enough respect? Since you spent so much time researching this and cross referencing it to the migration patterns of bottlenose dolphins then you should be confident that you made the right decision and not look towards others for confirmation that the extra $2k for an S is futile. If you like your car then why do you care what anyone else says about it?

"Anyways…Lighter rims = better performance. If you buy lighter rims you should probably go up a size or two."

--I don't want to go up any size in rims, I like the 17''s that CAME WITH THE EXTRA $2K.

"Also did I say completely remove the suspension and install some custom setup? Nope, all I said was to make some suspension mods."

--Specifically what you said is that you could have saved yourself the extra $2k and done suspension mods yourself, springs and sways. Will that yeild a suspension equivelent to the S? No, it won't; there are a few things you're leaving out.

Here's your to do list as it stands: (I'm even going to give you the Happy Hour Prices)
Headers: $1000
CAI: $300
Springs: $200
Sways: $300
Denso's Pulleys: $300
Axle-Back Exhaust: $600
Replacement Rims--For this one we will just replace them with the CL-S rims for the low price of $250 each, mind you this is even without tires--that would be extra: $1000
Labor: $200 (I'm sure you get REALLY low rates so I just threw this one in there)

So, lets see now we're standing at $3,900 for a car that still won't have the handling characteristics or the power of an S. Oh yeah, I personally love the perforated leather on the seats and the steering wheel. I also am quite taken by the SILVER gauges and bowling ball trim.

Point? I got more than a bargain when I bought my S, there is no way in hell minus a job at Comptech that I could have modified a P if I had bought one to equate to my car now. So yes, if out of the box performance and agility were what you were looking for when you bought your P then you are missing somehting, From some of your other statments you calculated the differences between the two and decided on the P, from this I am assuming you were not looking for performance maybe more like reliablity or looks.
-Then comes your argument on what you "could" add for that extra $2000, and it's not a very impressive list and the end result is not cmparable. Hopefully you fit all this in when you were deciding on the car though so none of this should matter to you.

One last thing, if you were originally trying to say that S buyers were some how ripped off with that extra $2k then you should have said that S stood for "Sucker", "Stupid" is what we used in grade school Sally, and you know this man!

If this doesn't cover your original point then nothing will in your mind and you are destined to be a Naval lawyer.

gvtire

I bought a CL-P because it came in Green and if the CL-S also came in that color I might have bought one. I did not want the 4 colors (Black, Silver, Red and White) that you able to get the CL-S in at the time I bought the car. I am glad that I got the CL-P since don't have the problems that seem to affect the CL-S such as the rattles and scratch rims.

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Beat the Bruins

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The reason that I am wasting my time and continuing this with aeon is because he has been a dick to way to many people here. I think his negativity is a little much. I have been a part of this board from it original H/A.net days to the move to Acura-tl.com and then our eventual move to Acura-CL.com. And I would have to say that aeon is a big ass hole. Look at a few of his posts.


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A fellow CL owner’s grand father died and left him a CL-S. Look at how he replys to the poor guy.
http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003867.html

I think you should sell the car and pay for a round of couseling and a long vacation so you don't feel the need to brag to us or ask us to validate the appropriateness of your feelings...

Or you could get yourself a set of headers and a CAI....


A fellow CL owner asks a question about the spoiler but refers to it a wing. Look at how he is the first to attack this guy.
http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003240.html

Umm, no...No wing, for one you will get laughed at and or shot at-(depending on where you live). And two, no one will take you seriously at the service station, or almost anywhere else you go except maybe a Burger King next to your local High-School during lunch hour, but if that's your game-so be it. Save the money you would use towards the "wing" and invest in a plan that will help to ward off other juvenile ideas related to wings, or fins, grossly enlarged tail-pipes, or extra lights, or yellow faced gauges, or...


A fellow CL owner brings up info on the exhaust for a CL-S. Look at how aeon attack him without provcation.
http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005007.html

The words NO SHIT come to mind...

The words aeon is an asshole comes to my mind…