Are we the fastest stock FWD car?
12-21-2001, 04:48 PM
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Are we the fastest stock FWD car?
I am wondering if our cars (type-s) are the fastest FWD cars in 0-60 or 1/4 mile?
If not what FWD car is faster?
If not what FWD car is faster?
12-21-2001, 04:52 PM
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A lot of cars....
If you meant "in the same price range", then the answer is "no"
Nissan Maxima 2002, is one example
I can tell for sure that CLS is pretty fast, but not the fastest
BMW M3, M5 are way to much faster
If you meant "in the same price range", then the answer is "no"
Nissan Maxima 2002, is one example
I can tell for sure that CLS is pretty fast, but not the fastest
BMW M3, M5 are way to much faster
12-21-2001, 04:57 PM
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M3 and M5 are RWD cars though..Ive seen some FWD Talons and Eclipses that run like low to mid 14 stock..those are very isolated cases though. The CL-S is very quick, and luxurious at that.
12-21-2001, 05:03 PM
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I would say the CLS is up there for the fastest front wheel drive of it's weight . Eclipse GST, or Talon ESI would give it a good run, asa well as the Maxima. All BMWs are rear wheel drive, BTW.
12-21-2001, 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by DSM316
M3 and M5 are RWD cars though..Ive seen some FWD Talons and Eclipses that run like low to mid 14 stock..those are very isolated cases though. The CL-S is very quick, and luxurious at that.
M3 and M5 are RWD cars though..Ive seen some FWD Talons and Eclipses that run like low to mid 14 stock..those are very isolated cases though. The CL-S is very quick, and luxurious at that.
Don't discount the FWD turbo cars. They are fairly quick. The CLS is by far the most luxurious of the bunch, though. And for that, I'll take a car that's .5~1.0 sec slower in the quarter anyday of the week.
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12-21-2001, 05:04 PM
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if you are modless like soopa ill beat you!!!
I beat a RSX-S before I had my headers. Even in almost every magazine, the usual 1/4 mile time for a RSX-S was ~15.2... Maybe you have a ringer, or Soopa's CL's were slow, but usually the RSX-S is NOT faster than the CL-S.
12-21-2001, 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by DSM316
M3 and M5 are RWD cars though..Ive seen some FWD Talons and Eclipses that run like low to mid 14 stock..those are very isolated cases though. The CL-S is very quick, and luxurious at that.
M3 and M5 are RWD cars though..Ive seen some FWD Talons and Eclipses that run like low to mid 14 stock..those are very isolated cases though. The CL-S is very quick, and luxurious at that.
I am not sure, is Lamborgini RWD?
What about S500, S600 mercedes or other mercedeces, are they all RWD like all german cars?
12-21-2001, 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by russianDude
You are right, M3 and M5 are RWD, but what about Lexus GS 400, and other v8 cars, should we even go to cars like Mustang, Corvette?
I am not sure, is Lamborgini RWD?
What about S500, S600 mercedes or other mercedeces, are they all RWD like all german cars?
You are right, M3 and M5 are RWD, but what about Lexus GS 400, and other v8 cars, should we even go to cars like Mustang, Corvette?
I am not sure, is Lamborgini RWD?
What about S500, S600 mercedes or other mercedeces, are they all RWD like all german cars?
12-21-2001, 05:07 PM
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You are right, M3 and M5 are RWD, but what about Lexus GS 400, and other v8 cars, should we even go to cars like Mustang, Corvette?
12-21-2001, 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by russianDude
You are right, M3 and M5 are RWD, but what about Lexus GS 400, and other v8 cars, should we even go to cars like Mustang, Corvette?
I am not sure, is Lamborgini RWD?
What about S500, S600 mercedes or other mercedeces, are they all RWD like all german cars?
You are right, M3 and M5 are RWD, but what about Lexus GS 400, and other v8 cars, should we even go to cars like Mustang, Corvette?
I am not sure, is Lamborgini RWD?
What about S500, S600 mercedes or other mercedeces, are they all RWD like all german cars?
Mercedes - (almost all, anyway) RWD
BMW - RWD (except X models)
Acura - (excluding MDX) FWD
Lexus - (all sedana, except ES300) RWD
Audi - All AWD (optional)
12-21-2001, 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by DSM316
The Lambo can also be an AWD model
The Lambo can also be an AWD model
And Russiandude, "since when did Toyota start making RWD?"
12-21-2001, 05:14 PM
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Please ignore my post above.I meant RWD in regards to the Vette/Mustang... (stupid 5 minute rule!!)
RussianDude.I would seriously consider visiting a car website one day
RussianDude.I would seriously consider visiting a car website one day
12-21-2001, 05:15 PM
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I don't think that maxima/altima will beat sls, if they are running on auto. manual is a different story, but looks like manual cls is gonna spank some serious RWD ass too! 
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speed???
now as for the fastest ...i am telling you the new mercedes c230 AMG evolution is probably the fastest new FWD car... it will never spin it has 5 was adjustable suspension
here are the differences between the stock c230 kompressor and the c-230 evolution:
1) supercharger
2) HKS exhaust
3) upgraded computer
4) smaller pulley=around 85 nore hp!
it will not only blow the doors off our car but just about any FWD car around...as i previously stated it has 285hp at the wheels and over 300 ft. pds of torque...trust me i have raced him..and even thought there are some doubters ..well you have no clue the c-230 kompressor only costs $29000 the AMG evolution well try around $46you all try and order one there is a 7 month waiting list for one and if you want the AMG with leather then you will be waiting about 9!
here are the differences between the stock c230 kompressor and the c-230 evolution:
1) supercharger
2) HKS exhaust
3) upgraded computer
4) smaller pulley=around 85 nore hp!
it will not only blow the doors off our car but just about any FWD car around...as i previously stated it has 285hp at the wheels and over 300 ft. pds of torque...trust me i have raced him..and even thought there are some doubters ..well you have no clue the c-230 kompressor only costs $29000 the AMG evolution well try around $46you all try and order one there is a 7 month waiting list for one and if you want the AMG with leather then you will be waiting about 9!
12-21-2001, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Please ignore my post above.I meant RWD in regards to the Vette/Mustang... (stupid 5 minute rule!!)
RussianDude.I would seriously consider visiting a car website one day
Please ignore my post above.I meant RWD in regards to the Vette/Mustang... (stupid 5 minute rule!!)
RussianDude.I would seriously consider visiting a car website one day
Anyway, I am sure maxima will kick our ass with six speed manual and even auto. I think it has better torque and light weight than CLS.
12-21-2001, 05:19 PM
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Re: speed???
Originally posted by krazyplaya213
now as for the fastest ...i am telling you the new mercedes c230 AMG evolution is probably the fastest new FWD car... it will never spin it has 5 was adjustable suspension
here are the differences between the stock c230 kompressor and the c-230 evolution:
1) supercharger
2) HKS exhaust
3) upgraded computer
4) smaller pulley=around 85 nore hp!
it will not only blow the doors off our car but just about any FWD car around...as i previously stated it has 285hp at the wheels and over 300 ft. pds of torque...trust me i have raced him..and even thought there are some doubters ..well you have no clue the c-230 kompressor only costs $29000 the AMG evolution well try around $46you all try and order one there is a 7 month waiting list for one and if you want the AMG with leather then you will be waiting about 9!
now as for the fastest ...i am telling you the new mercedes c230 AMG evolution is probably the fastest new FWD car... it will never spin it has 5 was adjustable suspension
here are the differences between the stock c230 kompressor and the c-230 evolution:
1) supercharger
2) HKS exhaust
3) upgraded computer
4) smaller pulley=around 85 nore hp!
it will not only blow the doors off our car but just about any FWD car around...as i previously stated it has 285hp at the wheels and over 300 ft. pds of torque...trust me i have raced him..and even thought there are some doubters ..well you have no clue the c-230 kompressor only costs $29000 the AMG evolution well try around $46you all try and order one there is a 7 month waiting list for one and if you want the AMG with leather then you will be waiting about 9!
12-21-2001, 05:35 PM
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Put it this way...the only car that is stock FWD and auto that can beat the CL-S is maybe the GTP.
Manuals....a lot more, I won't include the Altima or an ITR because you still need a really good driver to beat you....however, the Max seems to only need an okay driver.
Anything else out there FWD!?? As for the C230...wtf!?! Are you on crack....Mercedes only makes RWD cars. And you know what...that goddamn AMG 230 you keep talking about will get smacked around in the $46K range.
Manuals....a lot more, I won't include the Altima or an ITR because you still need a really good driver to beat you....however, the Max seems to only need an okay driver.
Anything else out there FWD!?? As for the C230...wtf!?! Are you on crack....Mercedes only makes RWD cars. And you know what...that goddamn AMG 230 you keep talking about will get smacked around in the $46K range.
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Originally posted by krazyplaya213
this one is FWD!!!!
this one is FWD!!!!
OMG!!! You're a fucking tard...that is a AMG C32!!! And it is RWD...and it is not $46k....closer to $55K....when you get some options...
http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container...&modelCode=C32
12-21-2001, 07:52 PM
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What about cadilacs like the deville and the seville, those things haul ass are they FWD, and how bout the lincoln LS, is that FWD?
12-21-2001, 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by StonedCL
What about cadilacs like the deville and the seville, those things haul ass are they FWD, and how bout the lincoln LS, is that FWD?
What about cadilacs like the deville and the seville, those things haul ass are they FWD, and how bout the lincoln LS, is that FWD?
cadillac - most POWERFUL fwd. 300 hp. but that doesn't mean its the fastest. our cls's are faster.
12-21-2001, 08:28 PM
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I remember a thread like this came up a few months ago....
I don't think a clear winner was chosen... Some say the Dodge Omni GLHS; DiamondStar coupes; Caddy Seville/Deville for HP # (300); ITR; del Sol VTEC... Who knows.
Honda claims it's the RSX-R...
I don't think a clear winner was chosen... Some say the Dodge Omni GLHS; DiamondStar coupes; Caddy Seville/Deville for HP # (300); ITR; del Sol VTEC... Who knows.
Honda claims it's the RSX-R...
12-21-2001, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by StonedCL
What about cadilacs like the deville and the seville, those things haul ass are they FWD, and how bout the lincoln LS, is that FWD?
What about cadilacs like the deville and the seville, those things haul ass are they FWD, and how bout the lincoln LS, is that FWD?
But as the traditions goes, don't run it through the turns. They float way too much, but that is a different thread...
As a side statement, people knock GM all of the time. But this Northstar engine was put into production over a decade ago. 32 Valve DOHC V8 with 100k service intervals while producing 300 HP and 300 lb/ft. Certainly not what is typical of domestic makes and what is thought of from the States. Not to mention the ZR1 Vette, 30 MPG 400 HP 32V DOHC V8 wonder..... In the '80's....
12-21-2001, 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE
i agree i think the new maxima in auto form is faster... also the gtp is fwd i think...
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i agree i think the new maxima in auto form is faster... also the gtp is fwd i think...
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IMO, for basic mods in a reasonable passenger vehicle at a decent price, the GTP is the winner. The Maxima had been out for years and even in stick form took alot to get it into the 13's. The last gen GTP had people in the 13's within 1.5 years of the release, '97.
Heck, in stock form I was running 14.7's easily. Add exhaust and intake resulted in a best of 14.41@96 (wow, a much better trap speed than from these new Maxima's...). Add a smaller SC pulley and good fuel (not to mention a good launch) and the times could be in the 13's. at near 100.
The problems come from the interior comforts. If that car added 2k to the price which included a nicer interior I'd drive another. But in the wisdow or the GM designers (or accountants) they went cheap on the interior.
12-21-2001, 09:28 PM
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Caddy's, in my opinion, are just highway cruisers. CL-S's will have no problem with them in a typical street race, or a drag race for that matter. Maxima's are nice, but I thing that the car just lacks the "Race Inspiration" that other manafacturers have. Companies like Honda, BMW, Mercedes, have a certain feel for each of them that sets them apart. Most companies mimick one another, or at least I think so. For example, the new M3 I test drove felt like a Honda, not that that's at all bad, but I expected something different for that price. I guess thats why I bought the C32 AMG. My friends CL-S, to me, is a much better bang for the buck than a Beamer. Not taking anything away from the beamer, I just love the Acura's "racey" feel, not too mention it costs substantially less.