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03-26-2012, 06:17 PM
#201
03-26-2012, 06:28 PM
#202
I Wanna Beer
I'd have to agree with this Weez. If you're pushing 450whp and didn't crack into the 12's that's more driver error than car. Throw some slicks on there and I'm sure you're in the 12's, assuming you had a Quaife installed as well, which I'm guessing you did if you put 450whp type dollars into the car. I had a SHO too and they were quick and fun cars but I never built it up to the level that you had yours at.
Fox, I too think 12.5 is a bit ambitious but I'm looking forward to seeing what you run. I think 12.9 at best. I ran a 13.8 with 290whp and that was with me not trying to break my car doing so. But with beefed up axles, clutch and slicks, 12's is definitely not out of the question even for a wrong wheel drive car. Agreed there's a lot of talk on these forums but at least there are a few still trying to push the envelope on a car that was released in '01 versus settling for some headers and CAI as our top mods and 14.1's as our fastest times.
Fox, I too think 12.5 is a bit ambitious but I'm looking forward to seeing what you run. I think 12.9 at best. I ran a 13.8 with 290whp and that was with me not trying to break my car doing so. But with beefed up axles, clutch and slicks, 12's is definitely not out of the question even for a wrong wheel drive car. Agreed there's a lot of talk on these forums but at least there are a few still trying to push the envelope on a car that was released in '01 versus settling for some headers and CAI as our top mods and 14.1's as our fastest times.
03-26-2012, 06:40 PM
#203
Lives in Boost
Mark Nally, well known in the SHO community and a guy that was able to get a '89 with little more than NOS, drove it and wasn't able to get 12s. 12s were hard with that car. The guy could put down some seriously low 60ft times. Plenty of people pushing more than I was that never saw 12s. Saw lots of great drivers try for it but never succeed.
03-26-2012, 07:02 PM
#205
Yes we all know fwd cars can't break 13 seconds at a drag strip. That is why I have seen 6-7 sec fwd cars. It is all about setting the car up for drag racing.
If you havn't noticed 1foxbody the doubters are mostly former cl owners. TheWeez has never said a single positive thing about this car since he sold it. Same goes for Jblue and alot of other former owners. I call it buyer/seller justification.
So if someone hits 12's all motor but has weight removed are you all gonna claim that is cheating like I assume? I don't make claims and don't really care for drag racing.
If you havn't noticed 1foxbody the doubters are mostly former cl owners. TheWeez has never said a single positive thing about this car since he sold it. Same goes for Jblue and alot of other former owners. I call it buyer/seller justification.
So if someone hits 12's all motor but has weight removed are you all gonna claim that is cheating like I assume? I don't make claims and don't really care for drag racing.
03-26-2012, 07:05 PM
#206
I Wanna Beer
What? I still have my CL. Just drove it to the bike shop today.
I'm well aware that FWD cars can hit 12s. Dad's cousin's shop even had a loaner car that still would. Sundance with a big turbo that at one point did 11s. Was awesome to see the look on Corvette drivers faces if you could get them to race.
I'm well aware that FWD cars can hit 12s. Dad's cousin's shop even had a loaner car that still would. Sundance with a big turbo that at one point did 11s. Was awesome to see the look on Corvette drivers faces if you could get them to race.
Last edited by TheWeez; 03-26-2012 at 07:08 PM.
03-26-2012, 07:10 PM
#207
In search of excitement
Good luck Fox, I'm behind you on this one. No need to say someone can't do something until they fail, Foxbody has put down some serious cash on custom and quality mods, his build thread is detailed and well written, and everything is looking like the car will put down big numbers.
03-27-2012, 01:17 AM
#211
I haven't ran the car yet because it's kinda pointless without axles and slicks. I want to be able to run the car to it's full potential the right way, so I can actually cut a good 60ft. The only things left performance wise are aem fic, DSS 2.9 axles, hoosier slicks, clutch masters stage 3 clutch kit with aasco aluminum flywheel, and spray. I'm not saying I need to have all that done before I hit the track but it would be nice.
Raise the bets higher I don't mind. I like gambling even if the odds are against me, when I prove people wrong it feels even better haha.
Perfect example would be reese8789 he made 282whp and 240wtq uncorrected. That same setup from his tl ran a 13.2 @ 106.84 with street tires( 2.2 60ft ) in his accord a week ago.
http://youtu.be/gt119Lp_Qlc?hd=1
Just went to the dyno today all runs were in 4th gear mods are in sig.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/user/reese8789?feature=mhum
I made 279whp 238wtq UNCORRECTED and I still have those last few mods which will yield even more power. What I'm trying to say if he can run low 13's on street tires I can easily do better on slicks which means he's only a few tenths away from breaking into the 12's all motor. I should be able to run 12.5 with ease on spray. Sorry for the long post, just don't be quick to doubt me because it really is possible.
AFTER: 279whp 238wtq UNCORRECTED (STD)
272WHP 233WTQ CORRECTED (SAE)
Raise the bets higher I don't mind. I like gambling even if the odds are against me, when I prove people wrong it feels even better haha.
Perfect example would be reese8789 he made 282whp and 240wtq uncorrected. That same setup from his tl ran a 13.2 @ 106.84 with street tires( 2.2 60ft ) in his accord a week ago.
http://youtu.be/gt119Lp_Qlc?hd=1
Just went to the dyno today all runs were in 4th gear mods are in sig.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/user/reese8789?feature=mhum
I made 279whp 238wtq UNCORRECTED and I still have those last few mods which will yield even more power. What I'm trying to say if he can run low 13's on street tires I can easily do better on slicks which means he's only a few tenths away from breaking into the 12's all motor. I should be able to run 12.5 with ease on spray. Sorry for the long post, just don't be quick to doubt me because it really is possible.
AFTER: 279whp 238wtq UNCORRECTED (STD)
272WHP 233WTQ CORRECTED (SAE)
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03-27-2012, 02:16 PM
#213
Well when that setup was in his tl he still ran low 13's and that's a heavier car. You'll see all I'm saying is it is possible, you make it sound like it's out of the question. I'll keep everyone updated on my car so just keep a eye out.
03-27-2012, 02:31 PM
#214
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03-27-2012, 03:22 PM
#215
With the power your makin it is definetly possible to break a 12 sec 1/4 but its not gonna be easy.Your gonna need a cool day and like a 1.8 60ft and some good shiftin. I would say with slicks, good axles and a beefy clutch you can do it. Hell in my tl I ran a 13.5 with a 2.2 60ft. if i had some slicks I probably could have hit a 12 or came damn near it. Make it happen
03-27-2012, 05:39 PM
#217
With the power your makin it is definetly possible to break a 12 sec 1/4 but its not gonna be easy.Your gonna need a cool day and like a 1.8 60ft and some good shiftin. I would say with slicks, good axles and a beefy clutch you can do it. Hell in my tl I ran a 13.5 with a 2.2 60ft. if i had some slicks I probably could have hit a 12 or came damn near it. Make it happen
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. You kinda sound like a clown. I will enjoy proving you wrong.
03-27-2012, 05:55 PM
#219
Whats up with RDX owners?
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6 months from yesterday until JBlues bet expires...
03-27-2012, 05:58 PM
#220
I Wanna Beer
I'm down for that. And just 1 day at the track. None of this "The weather was hot." or "There was oil on the track so my 60' times sucked." and all the other BS excuses you hear all the time.
Hell I'd just throw the NOS on and call it good. Who cares about the current clutch and axels if you're gonna replace them anyways. Run them and if they break then replace them. Might get a touch of clutch slipping with the NOS but the axels should be good.
Hell I'd just throw the NOS on and call it good. Who cares about the current clutch and axels if you're gonna replace them anyways. Run them and if they break then replace them. Might get a touch of clutch slipping with the NOS but the axels should be good.
03-27-2012, 06:10 PM
#221
It all depends when civicdrivr setups that group buy with DSS and how fast they can make sets. As soon that works out and I have my set on the way I will buy a pair of hoosier slicks. My car was bone stock when I purchased it a year ago, trust me I don't wait around to do shit. The faster I finish this car performance wise the faster I can focus back on my 92 mustang drag car I'm building.
03-27-2012, 06:20 PM
#223
Lol so 6 months it is! I could just do that but it would be stupid because I'm almost certain I will break a oem axle on slicks and the clutch will slip bad on spray. It would be a waste of $$$ for me to buy oem replacement axles after breaking one once I'm back from the track. The main thing is axles first, new clutch setup next then I could put the slicks and spray on. In that exact order. I just rather go proper or not at all but who knows maybe I'll get the itch to go before I do all those things if it's not looking to good with getting a set of DSS axles soon. I'm a patient person when it comes to doing things like this, I've been building my mustang for years the way I truly want it.
03-27-2012, 06:21 PM
#224
Break into the 12's or break a axle? I have nothing to hide from you guys. This isn't a grudge race car so I don't mind telling the details about it. You have my word I'll tell you all the outcome no matter if it's good or bad. I used to be very secretive when it came to my mustang with power wise, et, mods, and because it was a sleeper.
03-27-2012, 06:28 PM
#225
I Wanna Beer
03-27-2012, 06:43 PM
#226
So this is only a one shot deal? Like I can't go to the track let's just say two weeks from now for example and run a few low 13 second passes then next month go and break into the 12's? It honestly all boils down to when I get those DSS axles.
03-27-2012, 06:52 PM
#227
I Wanna Beer
Not sure about that. The way things are right now, those of us betting against 12.5 happening put up the money and you get no risk. Worst that happens if you don't hit that is ya don't hit it. Not gonna sit here month after month after month while you try to hit the magic number. It'd be different if there was a bet was something like you get $20 if you hit it this weekend, if not we get $20. Then reset and maybe make another bet the next time to the track.
03-27-2012, 06:54 PM
#228
Whats up with RDX owners?
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JBlues bet said simply 6 months. That sounds to me like you can go every day for the next 6 months and keep trying to break a 12.5.
03-27-2012, 06:56 PM
#229
I Wanna Beer
OK I'm up for 6 months. Try as you might.
Problem is foresee is one of the problems with group buys here. Lots of people may say they want axels now but when it comes time to drop the actual money few people are willing to. Seen it who knows how many times with cams and other things. Could be 6 months alone before seeing just axels.
Problem is foresee is one of the problems with group buys here. Lots of people may say they want axels now but when it comes time to drop the actual money few people are willing to. Seen it who knows how many times with cams and other things. Could be 6 months alone before seeing just axels.
03-27-2012, 07:10 PM
#230
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Well, as I was told by God himself (Ron A), members cannot start group buys. I would have to get DSS to become a vendor so they can run a group buy (unlikely) or work with a current vendor to have them as a distributor (too much trouble). So, the GB will not be taking place on this forum for our V6 performance vehicles. Ive also been instructed not to speak of said GB on here either, as that will result in a locked thread. So, lets not mention any group buys that may or may not be taking place on this website.
03-27-2012, 07:47 PM
#231
Well that's why I rather go proper or not at all. So if my car is right mostly I will be able to run the time. There's no sense breaking my perfectly fine oem axles and maybe having to replace them before even purchasing my set of DSS ones. That's a big waste of $$$. Let's just stick to the 6 month bet in case I decide to go anyways. I do have a trailer so the car will be towed to the track.
As for these axles by what you said civicdrivr that doesn't sound too good at all. I honestly think people will buy them when the time comes because they need them a lot more than people need cam gears, aem standalone, roof spoliers, etc.
You almost have me thinking about taking my oem axles from my car and sending them in to have a custom set built so I don't have to wait on anyone. If this is going to be a endless group buy. I spoke with my friend, the shop that build my exhaust and he is a dealer for them. Let's just say I went that route it would probably be more expensive and faster, with his discount it might not be that bad. It's definitely a second option for me if this doesn't work out.
As for these axles by what you said civicdrivr that doesn't sound too good at all. I honestly think people will buy them when the time comes because they need them a lot more than people need cam gears, aem standalone, roof spoliers, etc.
You almost have me thinking about taking my oem axles from my car and sending them in to have a custom set built so I don't have to wait on anyone. If this is going to be a endless group buy. I spoke with my friend, the shop that build my exhaust and he is a dealer for them. Let's just say I went that route it would probably be more expensive and faster, with his discount it might not be that bad. It's definitely a second option for me if this doesn't work out.
Last edited by 1foxbody; 03-27-2012 at 07:53 PM.
03-27-2012, 07:50 PM
#232
Whats up with RDX owners?
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I never said the GB wont happen.
03-27-2012, 07:54 PM
#233
03-27-2012, 08:23 PM
#236
Doubt it nitrous is pretty safe when tuned right. With a walbro 255lph fuel pump and one step colder spark plugs I should be good. I can tweak the tune a little with different size jets.
03-27-2012, 08:24 PM
#238
On DSS website they clearly state they can pretty much make any custom axle setup so will see. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow just to see what they say.
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/axle-measurement
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/axle-measurement
03-27-2012, 08:35 PM
#239
03-27-2012, 08:44 PM
#240
Lives in Boost
On DSS website they clearly state they can pretty much make any custom axle setup so will see. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow just to see what they say.
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/axle-measurement
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/axle-measurement