allmotor_2000

Well, this is the race I always wanted... but unfortunateley I wasn't necessarily prepared. Anyways, here's how it went.

I was going south on the 405 in nasty traffic & 80C temps. I spotted a 911TT with wheels and exhaust (silver color). He was restless so I knew he was upto it. Anyways, we were both going West on the 10 (towards the beach... which clears up) and so he gunned it at the off-ramp and I followed. There was a car in front, so we were both behind and when the lane cleared, he jumped on it - saw the black smoke from his exhaust given the sudden flooring of the throttle. Anyways, I was about 1-car behind when he floored it and I floored it as well going 40mph. My wheels started spinning, so he gained a car in 2nd. In 3rd I was a dead-even 2 car lengths behind and in 4th I started catching up and regained the 1-car that I lost. He then let-off and rolled his window down and said... 'Damn, that's fast!'. I didn't even reply, just asked him what mods he had and if he was an X50 model... both of which he replied... "Exhaust" and "Yes".

I was ecstatic... too bad it was hot and I wasn't prepared. I knew the IC wasn't being effective given the heat and bad traffic.

Ah well... I'll soon be able to smoke him

goldmemberer

Considering how close we live, I am ashamed that I haven't yet paid homage to that monster CL of yours. I can't believe that you _gained_ on a 911 TT... that's a beautiful thing man.

"Way to go" just doesn't cut it in this situation.

cmark

awesome "woulda, shoulda, coulda" kill man

kevin79925

i neeed the tc

allmotor_2000

Well, I barely gained 1-car... so I wouldn't call this a kill or anything like that. I know these cars trap 115-120mph, so that is what I am more happy about. Off the line, he'd eat me

Chaptorial

Never thought i'd be able to see a CLS owner say that, when referring to a 911, without it being a joke.

Can't wait to hear the outcome.

BC2G

allmotor where u at in LA , i live in santa monica, i wanna check out your car

nice race, i'm used to seeing the rear end of porsches as they fly by me :

allmotor_2000

I live in the Valley...

mattg

nice

pimpscls

wow man you can hold ground in the porsche TT territroy(beat i mean ), you sir have a fast car

I want to see your car in action

TypeS_boi

go allmotor, that deserves a :cheer: and a I wish I could see this car of yours!

power3dfx

good stuff allmotor. you really should have about 380 to the wheels at this point, and the 911 seems to be close to your car in terms of power. i never thought of that though, have you come to a resolution for the fuel spike? the new tires should help you alot now compared to the bald stockers before. nothing but spin spin spin unless in 3rd on the hwy!

N.O.6speed

WOW! that is all I can say

Black CL-S 4-Life

Sweet run! I wish you could have gotten it on video.

scalbert

Way to go...

It does make sense though as you are surely putting more to the ground and weigh less. I suspect that gearing may also be in our favor.

mantis23

nice run

dark knight

Damn, your car is nuts! What does it feel like when you mash the gas?

ferizzo

I look forward to any sorry that begins with or contains Turbo CLS in the title....this did not disappoint! Man is that car sweet (actually both the TC CLS6 and a 911TT)! How much hp do the 911TTs have again? for some reason I always thought 450 crank.

CLpower

the X50's have 450, but in reality it's more as the X50 motor is the same as the GT2 motor which has 472 I believe, and they say that's underrated

scalbert

415 base and I beleive 465 with the X50 package at the crank.

allmotor_2000

Maybe he was lying about the X50 business... but it did have exhaust. I need to dyno soon.

scalbert

Remember, their transfer case is a viscous type (silicon based I beleive). So it is always engaged and saping power. I wouldn't be suprised if the 6MT didn't lose upwards of 25%. That would put him at about 350 - 370 at the wheels which would be about right.

Also, do you know if it was a 6MT or Tiptronic-S??

CLpower

most of them are dynoing at just a tad under 400. The lowest i've seen to date is around mid 370's

scalbert

Interesting, and that is the X50 version?? If so, what are the base versions hitting?? Either the rest of the drivetrain is super efficient or they underrate the engine. I would lean towards the later as the transfer case used, while very strong, is not the most efficient.

Can you get the X50 package on the Tiptronic-S model??

CLpower

yea, the x50's. I have a stock dyno saved at home, i'll post it up later. The engines are underated. As I stated the X50 gives you the GT2 motor which is rated at a little over 470 and those things are putting down 400+ on the dyno.

CLpower

and yes, you can get the x50 w/ the tip

scalbert

Any idea on drivetrain loss difference with the Tiptronic-S??

allmotor_2000

Okay... maybe it wasn't the X50! I doubt I could hang with 400+whp!

ferizzo

my understanding from what clpower said was that the GT2s put 400+ to the wheels...the 911tts are between 370-400 at the wheels. I think the additional loss of power can be attributed to the AWD vs the RWD in the GT2. not to mention the GT2s should be lighter no? I mean isn't it gutted and minus the AWD setup?

CLpower

nobody yet, has been able to get a tiptronic to dyno properly

allmotor_2000

I just ordered a 750cc injector and the injector-holder should be arriving next week. I'll bump it up to 9psi with this - I should be able to get 7.5-8psi into the motor given the inherent losses.

Although I don't know about our crappy 91-octane fuel!

allmotor_2000

Hey... got my new Avatar working - thanks Scalbert!

scalbert

Just one, or two?? Where ya going to mount it??

About the octane, you can always retard timing little.

allmotor_2000

Just one 750cc... I'll still use the FMU upto 5psi - might have to swap out the spring though as I don't want 90psi fuel pressures! I'll put it on the intake pipe near the TB.

1x750cc should suffice at 70psi, I am pretty certain. I'll set the E-manage to open the secondary only after 5-6psi, so that I don't get puddling in the intake or anything wierd like that.

CraZee ZO6

Great Race.

Have you done more to the car since the 111mph trap?
TT's will trap alot higher than that. So I dont see how you could of gained on him. IMHO

allmotor_2000

Sure... completely different turbo kit - Garrett GT35R turbo instead of that puny thing I had before

CraZee ZO6

Awesome bro.
What are you expecting now trap wise? I know FWD cars have it tough on street tires. SPIN SPIN..

Traps give you a accurate idea of power.

allmotor_2000

I don't know - but I'll be extremely happy with ~115 - anything to hang with the new breed of AMG cars from MBZ and of course the dreaded new M5! I am boosting 5.5-6.0psi right now, and hopefully will up it to 7.5-8psi shortly.

CraZee ZO6

Great. 115 is moving. My zo6 trapped at 116.32 stock, and I can take those AMG cars. So you should be fine. I am trying to steer my cuzin (babyblue) to go turbo on his CLS. He has a auto though so I dont know how that works?
A close friend of mine has a RSX Type S with a cybernation turbo kit. Stock block. 9psi with full 3 inch exhaust (no cats) into a apexi n1 turbo muffler. I tuned his car few weeks ago using the SAFC II on a dyno and we made a impressive 307whp and 224wtq. A/F was SAFE at 11.7 too.
For a little car his car flies now.

For my own car I am hoping mid 10s at 130+.
Need a few things first so I can drive her HARD, mainly a NICE CLUTCH to hold the tq!

babyblue

Allmotor that CL of urs is a Beast... you getting the dyno and track times soon??? I wish I had a six speed.... would definitely be getting the turbo, any plans for the auto turbo?