TypeSKiller

If I ran a time like that in a Turbo 350z...I sure as hell wouldn't post about it until I ran something decent that is actually worth posting about.

The fact of the matter is....you ran into a poorly tuned, poorly driven Turbo Z and took the win. I'm not going to say that your car is slow or "should" be slower than a turbo 350z or anything like that.

All I will say is...good kill.

allmotor_2000

So, you are assuming that Cheston did not attempt any sort of tuning to his car between the time he ran that 13.5 and last weekend?!? If I ran a 13.5 @ 105 and everybody flamed it... the first thing I'd do is fix the problem(s)! I am VERY sure he was not running a 105mph... I am running at least 112mph and so I am sure he is running 109-110 at least.

BoostedM3

when are you planning to hit the track ram? get some slips and end of story.

darrinb

not every z will rin 13.6@103, thats a fact

and another fact is that allmotor did walk a tt 350z, dispite was his previous best runs were, what went down went down

darrinb

u gotta be kidding me

allmotor_2000

Not worth going to the track without proper tires.... so not for a while!

blubyu2k2

He ran at the track after the car was tuned on the dyno from technosquare in CA. It all comes down to his driving ability and if you look for his thread on my350z (chebosto) he says it himself he is a terrible driver. One more thing I want to point out is if you are in the 112mph trap range you are not going to pull 3 cars on a car trapping 110 from a little 60-100 sprint.

power3dfx

having seen what his car is capable of, he definately has alot of power. i should be running mid 13's and he was only a little worse without the turbine (NA). his car is completely different now and its incredibly fast at spooling up, very nice and efficient setup. i dont know how much power this guys car puts out, but allmotor should put down a good amount of hp (over 30 more hp) than a TT Z would put (assuming 330 for the TT 350)

the driver also matters alot and allmotor is pretty good so that helps alot too.

Doom878

Instead of dropping thousands to turbo his car shouldn't this guy pay for driving lessons if he admits he's a terrible driver? He might be just playin possum though.

ferizzo

my only contribution to this thread is that allmotor's car and BlueCLS6 will walk 99.99% of all the current gen Zs in this country. honestly, how many of the tens of thousands of Zs sold are boosted, and of those how many pushing over 370 whp?

Chaptorial

my only contribution to this thread is that TypeSKiller's Z will walk 99.99% of all the current gen CLs in this country. honestly, how many of the tens of thousands of CLs sold are boosted, and of those how many pushing over 370 whp?

allmotor_2000

Oh gawd! This thread has lost it!

zeroday

some real maturity in this here thread oh well. no surprise that cheston didn't show up. i wouldn't either with the way some of you guys are acting.

ferizzo

Thats a very good point, althought I would think that its more like 99.98-99.97 because there are a few that are spraying, 3.5 liter, boosted. 13.6 is fast, but we have a few members here who have done it or close to.

ferizzo

True! The guy sounds like a nice guy who's a real enthusiast who doesn't hide his numbers. I give him mad props for that!

scalbert

That is incorrect. You can't express a portion of a CL with those decimel places as there were only a couple hundred sold.

Chaptorial

I was never good at the math.

typeR

open invite to any bolt on Z

allmotor_2000

Umm... I wouldn't be so confident if I were you!

typeR

you know something i dont?

Joe5.0

Maybe losers is a bit harsh, but it's pretty sad that with all these SC'd 6 speeds on here noone has any track times.

allmotor_2000

Well, for starters... I'd put my $$ on a Z w/bolt-ons (any bolt-on NA part) than your car. One can easily get 12's @ 107-109 mph in a Z NA; its going to be very difficult on a CL-S (6spd or auto). I was pushing 271whp NA and barely scraped a 13.5 @ 103 - unless you can show me a dyno of 280-290whp, I don't think you can take a well-equipped Z.

Z with I/H/E/crawford plenum/cams/sprockets/ECU/no-cat could make close to 290whp. Then... its RWD.. that's like a 20whp handicap to catch up to that!

phil2

^ownt^

darrinb

type r, vs a stock 350 u def do have the edge but i am not sure how they respond to bolt ons..

how did the unichip work out on the 3.5 for ya???

oonowindoo

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i agree with allmotor.... Type R ur tOO confident =)

My G35C put around 250 to the wheels.. with just Intake, straight pipe exhausts, cat delete pipes. if i get crawford pleneum (15-20 whp) + ECU + cams and some other bolt ons i am sure i will be close to 300WHP.. but that is alot of $$ right there..

oh btw: nice kill allmotor... that TT 350Z needs to get retuned...

scalbert

How many do we have, three?

As mentioned before, there are seriously more important things to do than to get track times; especially in this car. That said, there will be some track times soon.

Wow, when did you develop this pompous attitude??

allmotor_2000

av6ent

Good kill allmotor and would love to see your dyno whenever you got a chance.

As far as Cheston's times.
His setup at that time 5/27 was: 7.5psi. 19x10.5 rear TE37s with Toyo T1S @ 30.0 psi, spare in the trunk, stock LSD. stock clutch...pretty much my typical street setup- but the TEIN EDFC setup for 7 front, 0 rear. With 7.5 psi he was less then 400whp.

His time actually equals 13.2 @ 108 corrected from 13.6 at 2700 ft. and 60' was 2.1 so he was spinning. Anyway, he has the power but needs to learn how to utilize it.

allmotor_2000

Well, he wasn't spinning in 3rd and 4th gear

mrimage27

well if a greddy kit put out that whp, then we can run that 350z anytime with our supercharge cl with the hbp.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Last time I checked a CL-S with the S/C and the HBP doesn't put out 340 whp. MAYBE 300 in the 6-speed.

The 350z also is lighter and RWD.

scalbert

I have the SC and HBP and made 369 WHP.

Oh yea, there was a couple of other things too.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Exactly.....

typeR

i would bet im making 270 right now...the uni chip is on its way as well as a ported upper intake /ported throttle body,and hopfully soon a hope systems mystery mod as well as a little suspension work i have planned...eventually i will have a full exhaust and there's still some left on the table i expect a solid 13.2 at 105 by fall im not saying i cant be beat just because i say open invite doesnt mean none of them wont win...but it will be close

typeR

and has 500+ less rpms to play with

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

13.2 on street tires? That'd be something to see... Good luck man!

allmotor_2000

Why don't you go dyno your car... cuz the last dyno I saw was 248 or something, correct?
I mean... dude... all the power for you to hit 13.2 or 13.0 or whatever. It will be nice to see what a CL-S can do - just that its hard man... its hard to get quicker and quicker without doing drastic things. The first 1/2-second is easy... the last 1/8s is very difficult!!

Also... I made 271whp with pretty much all the mods you PLAN on having in addition to the Comptech clutch/flywheel. Now.. the 3.5 doesn't make much more horsepower.. although torque is good as well! You have to look at the hp/torque curve from 5.5K to redline... that's all that matters for your E.T & mph (given stock gearing and redline).

When I had my NA Civic... I spent $2K to go from 14.5 to 13.0 and then $5K from 13.0 to 12.5 and then another $7K from 12.5 to 12.1'ish - its tough!!

Joe5.0

I dunno, maybe I was having a male PMS moment. It just seems there's alot more talk than action on here sometimes. I mean, how many dyno's and track numbers threads are there compared to "which intake", "am I faster than x" or "my tranny sucks" . I'm not trying to be a dick, but I would think if youre doing all these mods to make your car faster/handle better you would get some actual data to show the improvements.

Has ANYONE ever auto-x'd or road-raced a 2nd gen? I'm not saying they havent because I havent been here a very long time, but I cant recall any threads of the sort, and how many people have fully upgraded suspensions and race worthy tires? Lots more than actual use it I would say.

With that said I hope to beat the supposed all time best bone stock (excluding tires ) 1/4 time in the next month or so, depending on how hot July is.

scalbert

Very few do put the car through it's paces on the track, but some do. And yes, people have tracked their car at a local auto-x or road course. It isn't often but it does happen. Of the track duty, the majority is done at the strip which is similar to most other makes (excluding certain models).

However, I believe one reason for the lack of track going is the realization of what this car is; a heavy FWD vehicle. So it has certain immediate limitations. Why then would people mod them, to make it different. I am sure you would agree it is a very comfortable yet fun car to drive. At the same time it has room for improvement and room to make it even more enjoyable.

Track times are often posted, it just so happens there are only a few CL-S6SC's on this forum and of those two have never been to the strip. That leaves me and I will be going soon. Why I haven't gone has been a matter of time, or lack there of. But things are getting easier around my household allotting me the opportunity to go. It just now sucks that it is the middle of summer in the south. :o

Joe5.0

I dont know everyone says its so heavy, to be honest. Its not that much heavier than the Accord V6 coupe and its only what, 100lbs more than the G35? 3,450lbs isnt heavy compared to ALOT of other supposedly "sports" or sporty cars. I think the fact that it comes with a pretty mild suspension setup and absolutely horrible tires stock is why people get turned off from tracking it.