have i gone off the deep end? probably.

i'm thinking about calling up some companies to get a quote on making me titanium nuts, bolts, and studs to replace any that are moving parts in the motor.

such as crank, power steering, a/c, alternator... some arent bolts, but nuts/studs.

also looking into lug nuts.

got the idea when i was ordering some metric bolts online, titanium tends to weigh about half. not to mention it is a rotating mass.

yeaa... im

 

sounds like a good idea. is titanium strong enough for the lugs.

 

I thought titanium was one of the strongest metals out there. Stronger than steel, iron and aluminum. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

 

im under the same impression.

 

titanium is stronger than regular steel and stronger than aluminum.

as far as i know there is no full titanium lug nuts, but their are lightweight ones floating around. Kyokugen makes fair priced ones .9 oz each for about $60. but Rays engineering just came out with a set that is the lightest i know of .8 oz each, but its a pretty penny. about $120 ish

my lugnuts = 1.92 oz
thats 9.6 oz per wheel.

rays = .8 oz
thats 4 oz per wheel.

thats 1.2 lb per axle.
vs.
.05 lbs per axle.

is it worth it? probly not. will i buy it? probably.

 

CLeanCL my car will smoke yours because I only have 4 lugnuts on my wheels. That equals a savings of 3.84 oz per axle and if I went with the lighweight jugnuts it'd be game over for you.

 

But you're doing the right thing. Trying everything possible.



Sorry, that's the funniest thing I've read all day, 'cause we all know it's true.

 

Huh?

 

if it were me id start with the easy things first ,wheels and breaks,and battery, there are heavy dampeners that weigh almost 10lbs near the rear motor mount...titanium exhaust ill bet could save 20+ lbs ...carbon fiber half shafts and big break kits and one place that may be huge would be the seats going to something like that found in the RSX type S may save 100 lbs...i would bet 250 lbs could eaisly be saved

 

I drive a 98 3.0CL which only has 4 lugnuts per wheel. I meant lugnuts not jugnuts. It was a joke.

 

already got some lightweight OZs, i think they weigh 17 lbs. i could have found lighter, but for the sake of 2 lbs, i'd rather go with some style.

i got a BBK kit on the front, rear is coming soon. i posted up the weight difference on the front. it was about 3-6 lbs per wheel, i forget.

exhaust... i'm way ahead of you. i weighed my mufflers and i dont think the weight difference is worth spending hundreds more for Ti mufflers... BUT i'm going to order Ti piping and have a custom catback made. i'm having a custom cat made as soon as Titand19 finds his stock cat for me.

seats... do i really want to give up the CL-S seats... not a chance. ;]

look what you made me do, reveal some of my secrets. i'll also be doing before/after weights/dynos of my intake manifolds. THAT secret will not be released until its all said and done. =P

 

??? why would he need to find his stock cat and ...how hard could that be...plus what happened to your stock CAT since you got the car sound one?

 

i forgot, i also have a 15 lb odyssey battery w/ custom tray. my stock battery weighed 42 lbs and the oem tray was fairly heavy. i think i shaved off about 25 or so lbs with that.

one other thing worth mentioning... ive got 80,000+ miles on the car. radiator wasn't leaking but it was on it's way out. with the motor out it's getting a new radiator. but by about 100,000 i'll probably look into slimline light weight fans to replace the stockers.

i think we need to get as much weight off the front of this car as possible.

 

i agree

 

i have rays duraluminum lugs... fricking sick as shit

 

what color? any pictures?

 

look up titanium lug nuts. I think they're available in the purple/blue burnt color. They look sick as shit but I believe they cost hundreds of $$$

 

Sorry for the double post, check these out:

500 canadian from AJ-Racing apparently.

 

those alone will make no difference at all, other factors like engine temp and gas will easilly offset it. I have experimented with wheels and weights, and the only ntime you can feel any little difference is with 5-7 lbs less each wheel over stock. even then, it is not as much as you would guess.

 

they're blue cleancl... but no pics sorry

 

i know ron... my main post was actually to replace the engine bolts w/ titanium ones, but i guess everyone liked the idea of the lug nuts too...

i know it wont make difference, but in my crazy head it will.

 

I must have missed it. Did you hit this weeks Powerball?


I don't know how much cost/benefit you'll get out of titanium bolts/studs from weight reduction. If you're going after it to avoid stretched bolts - maybe.

I'm with TypeR. I think there are other target areas for weight. You could pull all the bumpers and all the hardware and just leave the bumper covers and shave a ton of weight as an example. Things like electric water pumps save HP. I don't know if our cars have a very good windage tray in the oil pan to reduce crank to oil resistance but that may also be a thought.

 

If my car were as light as a Integra Type-R I would be extatic. I don't have the cash to make my car light.

 

but those with studs with carbon fiber half shafts ,light weight wheels,tires(toyoT1 lighter than most) and breaks you may be saving as much as 25 lbs each drive wheel and 15 in the rear per

 

jesus H christ, where is all this money coming from. good luck Clean CL.

 

You're better off spending the money on balancing and counter-weighting the internals. You will get better results that way.

 

Get some magnesium wheels! They are ~35% lighter than aluminum. They use that on Indy cars.

 

http://www.tastynuts.com/acatalog/TITANIUM_shop.html

freaking cool.

 

someone has too much time...

 

About $12,000 for the set. Pretty sure they are center bolt only as well.

 

Dysan Wheels, sold in the US as Dymag Wheels, come standard on the koenigsegg, sold through exclusively rennworx.com.

carbon fiber outers, forged magnesium centers, 3x stronger than forged aluminum.

 

the CL is not worth dymags... but maybe the NSX will be.

 

my bigger concern is how he found the web site called tasty nuts

 

Just gut the car, its free and you can loose shit loads of weight. lol .. yeah it looks like shit and drives like shit, but spending $8gs on ti nuts is crazy. Its a fun idea, but cost per performance gain is shit. IMO

 

 

I used to pit on a 360 & 410 sprint car and every 10lbs of weight reduction gained 1 hp. We had magnesiun lugs and lightweight aluminum parts for the majority of the stuff because Titanium on torsion arms etc was just too expensive and not that big of a difference. We switched the engine bolts and guts (connecting rods, pistons, valve train) to titanium which reduced the rotating mass, which allowed faster rpms and more power. The titanium holds up well in the motor but when it broke...BOOM!!!!!!!

Light weight=faster. Faster = $$$$ therefore $$$$=faster.

 

co-sign, but they're still fun to at.