Tada! what is the difference... Magic! (Must see pics)
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Tada! what is the difference... Magic! (Must see pics)
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That’s real nice info, but it means nothing until we see an “ORDER HERE” button.
And I wonder if they will fit the 6-Speed.
Comptech has TWO different items now because the original design didn't fit.
Shawn S
And I wonder if they will fit the 6-Speed.
Comptech has TWO different items now because the original design didn't fit.
Shawn S
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Ok. People are paying 1100 or so for comptech headers, plus installation (maybe). Has anyone considered to do the following:
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
The airflow would be so much higher with 2 headers and 2 cat converters. If comptech's give you 32hp max, i would guess that this setup would give you 50hp or more. Maybe someone with more knowledge could verify this.
Any thoughts? And i think the price would be comparable to comptech's.
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
The airflow would be so much higher with 2 headers and 2 cat converters. If comptech's give you 32hp max, i would guess that this setup would give you 50hp or more. Maybe someone with more knowledge could verify this.
Any thoughts? And i think the price would be comparable to comptech's.
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Originally posted by hughesne
Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
Shawn S
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Originally posted by Shawn S
That’s real nice info, but it means nothing until we see an “ORDER HERE” button.
And I wonder if they will fit the 6-Speed.
Comptech has TWO different items now because the original design didn't fit.
Shawn S
That’s real nice info, but it means nothing until we see an “ORDER HERE” button.
And I wonder if they will fit the 6-Speed.
Comptech has TWO different items now because the original design didn't fit.
Shawn S
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
"Low cost to make" means more money for Comptech!
"Low cost to make" means more money for Comptech!
Btw, the one rear exhaust header on the Prototype one really bothers me. You can't tell me that huge looping thing is less restrictive than the Comptech header. WTF. Plus the weight. These things must weigh at LEAST ten pounds more than the comptechs, probably a lot more.
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Originally posted by hughesne
Ok. People are paying 1100 or so for comptech headers, plus installation (maybe). Has anyone considered to do the following:
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
The airflow would be so much higher with 2 headers and 2 cat converters. If comptech's give you 32hp max, i would guess that this setup would give you 50hp or more. Maybe someone with more knowledge could verify this.
Any thoughts? And i think the price would be comparable to comptech's.
Ok. People are paying 1100 or so for comptech headers, plus installation (maybe). Has anyone considered to do the following:
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
The airflow would be so much higher with 2 headers and 2 cat converters. If comptech's give you 32hp max, i would guess that this setup would give you 50hp or more. Maybe someone with more knowledge could verify this.
Any thoughts? And i think the price would be comparable to comptech's.
it's not as easy as that, you have to study the flow of the headers
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Hey you know what's really gay? If you followed the link and read the blurb about their headers, we're gonna end up with stainless steel production headers just like the Comptechs, not ceramic coated spooge headers. I love the smell of breaking in ceramic-coated headers in the morning. 
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Originally posted by JRock
Hey you know what's really gay? If you followed the link and read the blurb about their headers, we're gonna end up with stainless steel production headers just like the Comptechs, not ceramic coated spooge headers. I love the smell of breaking in ceramic-coated headers in the morning.
Hey you know what's really gay? If you followed the link and read the blurb about their headers, we're gonna end up with stainless steel production headers just like the Comptechs, not ceramic coated spooge headers. I love the smell of breaking in ceramic-coated headers in the morning.
:'(
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Originally posted by myCLTYPE-S
Um... Heres a thought
The second and third ones are CARB legal. Is the first? Living in Cali I like to see that number on my headers.
Um... Heres a thought
The second and third ones are CARB legal. Is the first? Living in Cali I like to see that number on my headers.
it will be once it's put in to production, but you really won't have to worry about it.
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
I think I would rather ceramic ones...they would be cheeper and then they wouldnt discolor like the SS.
I think I would rather ceramic ones...they would be cheeper and then they wouldnt discolor like the SS.
most people like the discoloration.
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Originally posted by Dom418
Don't cry.... everything will be OK.
especially if we can get 40+ HP for $1000....
DOM :P
Don't cry.... everything will be OK.
especially if we can get 40+ HP for $1000....
DOM :P
i wasn't, i was making fun of jrock :P
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Originally posted by Shawn S
A guy I work with just bought ceramic coated headers for his Mustang GT.
How much..........285 Shipped.
So sad we’re forced to pay 1000+.
Shawn S
A guy I work with just bought ceramic coated headers for his Mustang GT.
How much..........285 Shipped.
So sad we’re forced to pay 1000+.
Shawn S
the 5.0's and 4.6's also have the biggest following of any motor ever.
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Originally posted by hughesne
Ok. People are paying 1100 or so for comptech headers, plus installation (maybe). Has anyone considered to do the following:
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
Ok. People are paying 1100 or so for comptech headers, plus installation (maybe). Has anyone considered to do the following:
Take your car to a place that will do custom headers. Get 3in headers put on, but that are separate, run those to 2 separate hi flow cat converters and then on to hi flow mufflers. 3in pipes all around.
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Is it just me or does the prototype headder have smaller port openings than the comptech and oem headders?
it might be the angle of the pic. but I dont think it is...
I hope its just the picture cause smaller pipes would not = more hp....
it might be the angle of the pic. but I dont think it is...
I hope its just the picture cause smaller pipes would not = more hp....
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Well they should do some in ceramic coated and some is SS like DC sports...I dont care about the color of them and I would love to get them cheeper
Well they should do some in ceramic coated and some is SS like DC sports...I dont care about the color of them and I would love to get them cheeper
Ceramic ones cool down quick! I have had some on a couple of my Camaro(s) before. Make a huge differece in temperature under the hood.
Of course they are just regular metal headers with a ceramic coating.
it's not cheaper... costs $$ to coat the headers.
Unless you are thinking of something I haven't seen before...
They must disperse heat a lot more efficiently. As you could almost touch them 5-10 minutes are I would shutoff the engine.
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Originally posted by SiGGy
Ceramic ones cool down quick! I have had some on a couple of my Camaro(s) before. Make a huge differece in temperature under the hood.
Of course they are just regular metal headers with a ceramic coating.
it's not cheaper... costs $$ to coat the headers.
Unless you are thinking of something I haven't seen before...
They must disperse heat a lot more efficiently. As you could almost touch them 5-10 minutes are I would shutoff the engine.
Ceramic ones cool down quick! I have had some on a couple of my Camaro(s) before. Make a huge differece in temperature under the hood.
Of course they are just regular metal headers with a ceramic coating.
it's not cheaper... costs $$ to coat the headers.
Unless you are thinking of something I haven't seen before...
They must disperse heat a lot more efficiently. As you could almost touch them 5-10 minutes are I would shutoff the engine.
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
I have had DC sports headers for the GSR and the prelude and the ceramic was cheeper than the SS...thats why I was thinking they would be cheeper.
I have had DC sports headers for the GSR and the prelude and the ceramic was cheeper than the SS...thats why I was thinking they would be cheeper.
DUH on me, Stainless Steel is going to be a lot more than ceramic coated steel. Not stainless.
I forgot how $$ stainless steel is!
I'd rather have ceramic coated ones myself, after seeing how much heat they disperse! But toehrs may wan the looks of the SS ones.
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Who really cares what they look like???
I'm interested in getting good gains for the least amount of $$$$, I don't care if there are Pink Polka-dots if they're cheap and effective.
DOM
I'm interested in getting good gains for the least amount of $$$$, I don't care if there are Pink Polka-dots if they're cheap and effective.
DOM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
That sounds like a PhotoShop request if I ever heard one.
Shawn S
That sounds like a PhotoShop request if I ever heard one.
Shawn S
I was just making a point....
DOM
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Thats what I am saying...if its ceramic it would be cheeper...and the people that want SS could still get them. I want bang for buck ya know
Do we know if they are supposed to fit the 6spd??????
Do we know if they are supposed to fit the 6spd??????
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guys, this guy makes great products and knows what he's doing incase any of you are worried. He is also the person who made the turbo kit for the v6 accord hks did a few years ago
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Originally posted by ghander
it will be once it's put in to production, but you really won't have to worry about it.
it will be once it's put in to production, but you really won't have to worry about it.
It takes some time to get CARB cert. And for the money I WILL go with the CARB labled headers. I don't want to get caught without them.
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Originally posted by myCLTYPE-S
It takes some time to get CARB cert. And for the money I WILL go with the CARB labled headers. I don't want to get caught without them.
It takes some time to get CARB cert. And for the money I WILL go with the CARB labled headers. I don't want to get caught without them.
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Originally posted by Nicky Pass
They are that strict in Cali.........
They are that strict in Cali.........
they say they are, but you really don't have to worry about it if your smart.