i was checking the comptech site and it says like 34-40 wheel hp on a cls auto... is that really all it adds?? and for those of u with a cls auto with a SC ... does it seem like a worthy mod and does the car feel ALOT faster? what kinda HP numbers can be expected and will it effect the reliability of the car?

 

I would expect the CL to be about like an m3 when its SC'ed with I/H/E. IMO, no, it would not be worth it to SC a CL. I have never been in/around one so my opinion really doesnt mean much. I just can't see spending 5,ooo on mine, this doesnt mean it isnt right for you though. Look for a used one first, ive see a few of them lately.

Now that i think about it, in retrospect, Ive spent that if not more on my mods to date.

don't listen to me though, we'll wait for Mr.Steve to chime in.

 

It looks cool but my car is worth about $18,000 and the SC is about $5,000 or $6,000 installed. That's 1/3 of my car's value and too steep for me.

 

The supercharger is worth it but depending on what your goals are it may or may not be worth to you. If you have done I/H/P and that is not enough and you are looking for some more consistent power through the entire RPM range then go with the supercharger. Based on previous dynos, with S/C and header and exhaust you will be looking at about 270 whp and then with the HBP about 290whp. I would say that is marked improvement over stock. But if you are only looking for some HP once in a while install a nitrous kit. And the supercharger kit will cost you less than $4k and another $500-$750 for installation.

 

im not too worried about the cost i just dont want to spend like 4gss if its not gona make my car that much faster. the site says 34-40hp and that doesnt seem like that much. but if it really does change the feel of the powerband and makes the car respectivly faster then i would get it for sure.

 

If you do, it's almost a neccessity to get the HBP.

 

Not Worth it imo... costs too much for so little power..

 

Just imagine if Comptech lowered their price about a $1000, how many people might jump on the wagon. Like alot have said, it's just too much $ for what you get out of it.

 

I got a killer deal on the SC @ Nopi cause my friend works there... So I'm planning on gettin it then the HBP and then hopefully the intercooler

 

I thought about it myself but I agree 4 grand is a little steep considering other cars can get turbo kits for this amount or less. I think an SC and 3.5 buildup is well worth it and less hassle than getting an expensive turbo set up made.

 

if i had the $$$, i'd def do it

 

if you can afford one and a couple grand of extra mods

 

"Worth it" is entirely up to the owner of the car. Is it worth it to me to spend $2,500 on 18" wheels and tires? Not to me, but more people do that than supercharger their CL-S. Is it worth $1,500+ to completely redo the sound system in the car just to make it louder/"sound better"? Not to me.

Was it worth it for me to purchase a supercharger (for less than what you all are saying BTW) have it installed at a dealership and increase my horsepower at the wheels by 70 over my bolt-ons? Yes. Was it worth it to lower my E.T. my almost a full second and increase my MPH by 7-8? Yes. It was worth it every time I stabbed the throttle and heard the car whine and pull away from traffic.

"Worth it" is up to the individual.

The supercharger can be purchased brand new for less than $4,000 by a Comptech distributor and installed for about $500 or you can do it yourself. It isn't that hard. I un-installed the blower on my car with the help of Smitty and it was a piece of cake.

 

Having said that. If I were to start all over again I'd go turbo for sure because the dollar to horsepower ratio is much greater.

 

CARB legal on 50 state, instant power all over the band, and depends on your dealership it can be included to your warranty.

 

I got mine for $2400.... so for me it was deff worth it. I am planing on intercooling and boosting more. so with the money I saved on the retail cost I am able put it toward IC, E-manege, 7-9 lb boost. All said I will probably be at the cost of what most people payed for the SC only... Id do it again.

 

ahhhh yes.. how I do miss that whine.....

 

Yes, I agree...all depends on the individual. I don't think its that bad of a price for what you get and the driveability of the car almost still being stock to a degree. You have to pay to play.

 

Well said Steve.

Worth it for me too and I'm only running standard boost. I drive mine daily and enjoy what the car can do. Don't focus purely on the peak HP increase. Take a look at the dyno on Comptech's site and notice how much area is increased under the curve. It's very usable power across the range and CARB exempt was a big factor for me in CA. If you're interested in only full throttle performance, nitrous may be a cheaper alternative for you.

 

It worth it for me too. I got mine for 2900.00 brand new in box. standard boost and the HP/TQ gains are at the wheels and not flywheel so yes you will feel it, however in a 6spd you even feel it more.

 

im guessing you cant sharre where you got that price from, eh?

and steve, you paid only $500 to install it at the dealer? or is that a reg shop..

 

I have been thinking about this question myself. It is a generally held belief that turbos, being air-driven, are more reliable than belt-driven superchargers. I may have explained that slightly flawed, but point remains. For some reason also (workability/setup, demand?) turbo kits for 4 cylinders are much easier to come by than for 6 cylinders. After reading about members such as TypeR (future OG club member), 3.5L rebuild is a viable option. An all motor setup would probably be more reliable even than a turbo setup, and from the looks of it the conversion provides nearly identical gains to the CT SC. Although, possibly not over as wide of rpm range? Due to the amount of boost you could potentially run, turbo probably has the most power potential. At the same time, a good turbo setup including intercooler and all necessities could be $6k-$10k, we all know the SC costs, and a rebuild should be between $4k-$7k (remember you are getting new engine parts too). So the question of "worth" comes down to do you have that type of expendible money? If not and an occasional thrill is good enough for you, it's cheaper in the short term to go with NOS, although it has it's own positives and negatives.

 

I got a good deal at a dealership.

 

Where can you get a new supercharger under 3K?

 

I'm still stock w/ my 6spd. Doesn't make much sense to me unless you want better 1/4 mile times. Since my CL has never been to the drags, it's fine with the stock 260hp... It has enough power for me to get into trouble on the highway the way it is

All the money I would have spent on mods has been going into my "next car" fund.

 

It's a lot of $$ that can be used for other more important things in my life. I thought about it then made a list of pro's & cons
The HP gains with just the standard SC aren't that great. The HBP you need to get better gains. That's more $$. Then you have to worry about the ECU & lean conditons., Then the extra maintance, then the hassle of taking the blower off to fix something. What happens when the belt goes, or the SC needs to be rebuilt? Tranny & engine reliabilty? Axles? CV joint wear?
For a daily driver it's just not needed. If your into serious speed, get another car, as others have been doing lately

 

here is what you need to ask: " Am I going to be doing enough racing / extreme driving to justify this mod?" if the answer is yes then go for it. i think comptech is overpriced on most of their mods anyway and for $5000 for 40 hp you have to ask yourself if it balances out?. if you are going to be racing the car then go for it otherwise, gonna be pretty hard to justify. just my

 

if you have the money layin around just go for it...my friend just got a ford lighting and that whine is just addicting..i would love to have my cls making that noise...but in the end i dont find it practical...you can buy a lil 4 banger and turbo the shit out of it for 5 grand..then u have your luxury car and your race car..just my 2 cents

 

You obviously have never been or seen a Comptech supercharged CL. It has nothing to do with "racing." If someone wanted to race their car they shouldn't have purchased a CL.

The power gains are very linear and it honestly doesn't feel like the car is supercharged... it feels like a much larger and more powerful motor was placed in the car. It simply enhances the already adequate power the car makes. By no means does it turn the car into a race car. And you get much more than 40hp. I picked up 70 hp over my I/H/E/P/UniChip set-up or in otherwords 100hp over a stock CL-S.

 

you seem like you know what you talking about.... im not into racing my car i just want some more power and i def will not even think about nitrous. i just dont want to spend money on it and be like aw man this sucks i dont even really feel it.... but if it whines and yyou can totally feel the difference then i will get it. and by the way ... what is HBP?

 

HBP = high boost pulley. Increases boost from 3.5-4psi to 5.5-6.5psi

 

Unfortunately this scan didn't come out too well but you get the idea:



And you can definitely hear the whine:

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steve.. around how much do you think it will run at the dealership w/o a great deal? is it cause you know them? and di you bring in the charger yourself or purchased through them?
thanks

 

I have no idea how much a dealership will charge. I'd guess between $400-800.

I have good connections at the local dealership.

 

stroker + blower + emanage. nuff said.

 

I got my SC through the black market from BLK03S/Jon who decided to sell his Cl-S after purchasing the charger on ebay from an Acura dealer in Washington. I was the lucky one that purchase the SC from him for $2900 + 75 for shipping. Intsall was performed at the dealer for $720 with tax included. This is in Austin TX. Also I am backed by the dealer for 2yrs regarding install and my overall warranty is still good. All this in writing.

 

so when i get the comptech supercharger kit does it come with ecu management or a fuel pump or do u not need that? espicaly if you have a HBP what else would i need to make it work perfect. one of the reason i bough another HONDA MOTOR CO car is cuz reliability so i dont want to loose that.

 

Kit comes with an upgraded fuel pump and rising rate fuel pressure regulator. It also comes with an electronic signal modifier (ESM) to hide boost from the ECU. The kit is reliable and HBP will work fine as long as you feed your motor with enough octane.

 

Well what I was getting at is that most people who upgrade to an SC do it because they are going to be doing some extreme driving or racing and need the extra horse, and I may not have been around an SC'd CL-S , but I have been around cars that have been SC'd and it was done for those reasons.

 

Nobody I know here with a supercharged or turbocharaged CL/TL races or does extreme driving. They do it to enhance the daily driving capability of the car with added performance.

If I wanted a race car I wouldn't have a CL.