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Old 05-18-2006 | 08:26 AM
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Bro! I went there & they said that they didn't carry that part #!

What the hizell! Shiiiiit!
Old 05-18-2006 | 08:33 AM
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I guess the only question that I would like to add to this thread would be - I know it is not necessary to have the e managment system from steve, but what would be the benefits and for those of you who have it what are your thought and those of you who do not, do you wish you had one? Ok so maybe that a couple of questions. Just want to know as I am about to install a used SC on my car and want to cover all my bases. Also any helpful info would be nice as far as what to look for in a used SC. Thank you all in advance.
Old 05-18-2006 | 09:26 AM
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Steve may correct me, but I "thought" he told someone before that the E-manage wasn't worth it WITH the S/C. A headache. Maybe I'm getting my quotes mixed though.
Old 05-18-2006 | 10:43 AM
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i remember reading it wasnt worth it with just the s/c alone... but its a definite need with the i/c package.
Old 05-18-2006 | 11:58 AM
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The only reason for the e-manage with the off-the-shelf Comptech kit is to reduce fuel pressure by increasing pulse width. I'm sure you could pick up a few horsepower with the e-mange. In fact I know for a fact you could. But it wouldn't be worth it IMO. No need to complicate a very simple kit.
Old 05-18-2006 | 01:41 PM
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hm well my car has 72k miles and still a warranty... i dunno if the comptech sc kit voids that warrranty but i was thinking if it does i should prally wait til after i have over 100k on the car to do it... i want it like now tho!!! hehe
Old 05-18-2006 | 02:02 PM
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It will not void the warranty if it's installed by an Acura dealership.
Old 05-18-2006 | 03:38 PM
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I guess running 6.5psi through a turbo and making over 420whp isn't that big of a gain is it?

Or 10psi through the same kit making 464whp?

And I guess running 8psi through an intercooled supercharger making 373whp isn't that big of a gain either?

Maybe 4psi through the off-the-shelf comptech kit making 303whp isn't that big of a gain?

Or 6.5 psi through the off-the-shelf comptech kit making 330whp.

Or 6.5psi through the off-the-shelf automatic transmission kit making 295whp... that's not a big gain either is it?

noobs... I tell ya... they get worse every month.




what the fuck are you talking about? 6.5 psi in a turbo kit? what turbo company makes a kit for the tl or cl??? i didnt say that turbos dont make little improvement, i love turbos and they make the most power out of all the forced induction types. turbos by far make the most power and in less psi, i would like to know where you are getting those horsepower ratings and psi numbers from???? do you have any other information to back up your claims???
Old 05-18-2006 | 03:50 PM
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what the fuck are you talking about? 6.5 psi in a turbo kit? what turbo company makes a kit for the tl or cl??? i didnt say that turbos dont make little improvement, i love turbos and they make the most power out of all the forced induction types. turbos by far make the most power and in less psi, i would like to know where you are getting those horsepower ratings and psi numbers from???? do you have any other information to back up your claims???
CL-S Turbo Dyno
No turbo company makes a turbo kit for the CL-S. They're all custom turbo setups. I believe Allmotor pioneered turbos in our cars, not sure though. Search for his posts, you'll get a lot of info there.
Old 05-18-2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by soontoownTL
what the fuck are you talking about? 6.5 psi in a turbo kit? what turbo company makes a kit for the tl or cl??? i didnt say that turbos dont make little improvement, i love turbos and they make the most power out of all the forced induction types. turbos by far make the most power and in less psi, i would like to know where you are getting those horsepower ratings and psi numbers from???? do you have any other information to back up your claims???

Hey noob chill the fuck out. Yes 6.5psi on a turbo set up. It isn't a kit. It's a custom setup using a GT35R.

Want some information to back it up? Do a search.


https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150457

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/sixers-finals-176157/

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172756

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158792

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144539
Old 05-18-2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by soontoownTL
what the fuck are you talking about? 6.5 psi in a turbo kit? what turbo company makes a kit for the tl or cl??? i didnt say that turbos dont make little improvement, i love turbos and they make the most power out of all the forced induction types. turbos by far make the most power and in less psi, i would like to know where you are getting those horsepower ratings and psi numbers from???? do you have any other information to back up your claims???
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that was classic man!
i remember when i was a noob too but i search and researh first hahaha
Old 05-19-2006 | 02:45 AM
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tuning is a MUST in california if you are running the HBP. stock pulley in CA should be fine. but i was detonating everytime i went WOT, with or without IMRC. 91 octane cant cut it with over 5 psi
everywhere else that gets 93 or better, you can do without tuning.
Old 05-19-2006 | 10:08 AM
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On my CLS 6MT in CA, I've been running 6psi (stock pulley & ESM) on 91 octane for over 40k miles without any pinging issues at WOT. And this is without any tuning.
Old 05-19-2006 | 11:41 AM
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On my CLS 6MT in CA, I've been running 6psi (stock pulley & ESM) on 91 octane for over 40k miles without any pinging issues at WOT. And this is without any tuning.
Oops... I'm only running 4psi on my CLS 6MT... must have been thinking about my other car.
Old 05-19-2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
Oops... I'm only running 4psi on my CLS 6MT... must have been thinking about my other car.
I saw the 6lbs and

I was starting to think you were holding back on us
Old 05-19-2006 | 07:51 PM
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is there any negotiations with dealers? they want to charge me 12 hours , for an 8 hour job? wtf..

also, for the spark plugs, im aware that its IK-22... get the one thats for the RSX or are they all universal fit?
Old 05-21-2006 | 09:08 AM
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I'm happy w/the Denso IK22s which is what's recommended.
Old 05-21-2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by big mike 13
is there any negotiations with dealers? they want to charge me 12 hours , for an 8 hour job? wtf..

also, for the spark plugs, im aware that its IK-22... get the one thats for the RSX or are they all universal fit?
IK-22 is the plug part number. Probably the same for RSX and CL/TL but you don't order model specific.
Old 05-21-2006 | 04:15 PM
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Old 05-21-2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by soontoownTL
what the fuck are you talking about? 6.5 psi in a turbo kit? what turbo company makes a kit for the tl or cl??? i didnt say that turbos dont make little improvement, i love turbos and they make the most power out of all the forced induction types. turbos by far make the most power and in less psi, i would like to know where you are getting those horsepower ratings and psi numbers from???? do you have any other information to back up your claims???

I recently went to re-tune my setup. At 10psi, the car makes 464whp. We started out at 4.5psi to set the afr and at that psi, the car made 330 whp.

you really should do a search....
Old 05-24-2006 | 04:16 PM
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OK, I'm sold. In fact there is a used Supercharger setting on the bench in my garage right now.

A question for those of you that have gone this route (and I have searched) - how necessary is the transmission cooler (for the automatic). It's not that I am trying to be cheap, but as I look through all of the SC threads, I see only a few mentions of tranny coolers.

I get that the trans is likely to frag cooler or not and in fact, SC or not. Just trying to decide if I should bother.

PS, I will "only" be running the low boost pulley.

Thanks!
Old 05-24-2006 | 10:57 PM
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OK, I'm sold. In fact there is a used Supercharger setting on the bench in my garage right now.

A question for those of you that have gone this route (and I have searched) - how necessary is the transmission cooler (for the automatic). It's not that I am trying to be cheap, but as I look through all of the SC threads, I see only a few mentions of tranny coolers.

I get that the trans is likely to frag cooler or not and in fact, SC or not. Just trying to decide if I should bother.

PS, I will "only" be running the low boost pulley.

Thanks!
I feel the tranny cooler is a pretty good investment - boosted or not. I've had tranny coolers on my TL-P and TL-S both and shifts were more consistent - even after hard runs or 100+ temps.

If you lose 15% of your crank HP to drivetrain loss, a majority of that will end up as heat in the tranny. If you gain 60-70hp with the SC, you've got around 10hp worth of heat energy that needs to be disapated in some form. The tranny cooler will help do this and pull some of the heat load off of the radiator so it can focus on cooling the motor.

It may not keep a tranny from dying but it sure won't hurt. Just the improvement in driveability is worth it.
Old 05-25-2006 | 12:19 AM
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what is needed in addition with the B&M Cooler? just hoses? or do i need to buy mounting hardware as well.
Old 05-25-2006 | 12:57 AM
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I fabricated brackets out of alluminum and mounted similar to Comptech. Comptech uses the B&M cooler in their kit also. Go to the Comptech site and look at the installation instructions for their tranny cooler to get an idea.

http://www.comptechusa.com/store/med...Cooler2005.pdf
Old 05-25-2006 | 05:47 AM
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I have a B&M Transmission Cooler that I have and it's new in the box if anyone wants it, shoot me a pm. I just have to find it in my house.
Old 05-25-2006 | 11:08 AM
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I have a B&M Transmission Cooler that I have and it's new in the box if anyone wants it, shoot me a pm. I just have to find it in my house.
I want a supercharger. Shoot that over to my house. Hurry it up.
Old 05-25-2006 | 04:06 PM
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I want a supercharger. Shoot that over to my house. Hurry it up.

what are u going to do the with the transmission cooler keith, you have a 6 speed? lol
Old 05-25-2006 | 05:52 PM
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Funny. Send the SC, I will allow you to keep the trans cooler.
Old 05-25-2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
OK, I'm sold. In fact there is a used Supercharger setting on the bench in my garage right now.

A question for those of you that have gone this route (and I have searched) - how necessary is the transmission cooler (for the automatic). It's not that I am trying to be cheap, but as I look through all of the SC threads, I see only a few mentions of tranny coolers.

I get that the trans is likely to frag cooler or not and in fact, SC or not. Just trying to decide if I should bother.

PS, I will "only" be running the low boost pulley.

Thanks!
Mine came in today. Can't wait to put it in. Maybe I should ditch work tomorrow.
Old 05-25-2006 | 06:27 PM
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Trans cooler is honestly like $40... if you are spending nearly $5,000 on the kit and gauges why not spend another $40?
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Old 05-26-2006 | 09:47 AM
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Trans cooler is honestly like $40... if you are spending nearly $5,000 on the kit and gauges why not spend another $40?
You're right, and that's what I'm going to do (if I don't trade up to a 6 spd instead, and throw the SC in that). I was just curious as to why there aren't more mentions about this than there are. Perhaps because it is such a no-brainer...
Old 06-12-2006 | 07:01 AM
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B/T/W ~ I've had the SC'r on for about 6 months now & it's still worth it!

Old 06-12-2006 | 03:48 PM
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the supercharger is defintely worth the money. I wouldn't recommend it without a tranny cooler. For 60-80 bucks, its defintely worth it.
Old 06-12-2006 | 09:58 PM
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OK, the tranny cooler's in, the gauges are hooked up (lights, wiring ran), the fan shroud is modified, and the custom radiator hose is in. I gotta hit the road for a couple of weeks, but hope to answer the question "is it worth it?" by the 4th of July.

I'm doing the Scalbert method (a little work each evening, drive during the day).

Any advice from the SCer's on this dinky battery thing? I've read the thread on the Odyssey dry battery, and I'll probably go that way, although I want to see what the highest CCA 51-R is that I can find. I think that the stock battery, relocated to the trunk would be best, but a total PIA to do.
Old 06-12-2006 | 11:17 PM
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when replacing hte honda atf with i guess... redline high-temp
how do you guys do it? flush?drain/fill?
how many qts will i need? 9?

thanks
Old 06-13-2006 | 12:38 AM
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I would recommend using Amsoil synthetic ATF instead of Redline. As far as I know Redline doesn't state that they meet Honda Z1 specs but Amsoil does. I don't know of anyone that's had a problem with Redline but why introduce another unknown. When I flushed my tranny, I went through 10 quarts and had clean fluid pumping out the tranny cooler lines.
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do you get a warranty on the sc if it is used and installed at dealership
Old 03-17-2008 | 10:05 AM
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I'm curious where you guys are purchasing your s/c kits lowest price I've found is like $4k anyone have a better suggestion where to buy one? Thanks
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Talk to Josh (Excelerate). I was looking for a supercharger and he was giving me the best deal anywhere.


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