Supercharger reliability and motor life..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:20 AM
  #1  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Supercharger reliability and motor life..

Sup guys, I have been reading a lot of threads on blown motors and such; problems with the IMRC and how it affects the a/f mixture making it lean....

I'm about to order a s/c in two weeks just want to know whats the highest mileage anyone has ever got with stock internals and no HBP...

How many people have blown there motors/headgaskets due to s/c?

Reading those threads makes me worry lol, mainly because i need my car for work and school and spent every dime i got into it lol.

really appreciate your responses
thanks guys
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:05 AM
  #2  
Paclark01's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 411
Likes: 3
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by Harrisonk531616
Sup guys, I have been reading a lot of threads on blown motors and such; problems with the IMRC and how it affects the a/f mixture making it lean....

I'm about to order a s/c in two weeks just want to know whats the highest mileage anyone has ever got with stock internals and no HBP...

How many people have blown there motors/headgaskets due to s/c?

Reading those threads makes me worry lol, mainly because i need my car for work and school and spent every dime i got into it lol.

really appreciate your responses
thanks guys
I have had my Supercharger for one year and 13k miles. My car is a daily driver and I make sure I keep up with scheduled maintenance, use synthetic oil, and premium fuel.

My IMRC has been connected since day one of the charger install, and I have not encountered any problems while using the standard boost pulley. As a precautionary measure the IMRC can be disconnected for the standard pulley, but MUST be disconnected for the high boost pulley.

Treat your car well, purchase quality performance parts, and you should not have any problems.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:27 AM
  #3  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted by Paclark01
I have had my Supercharger for one year and 13k miles. My car is a daily driver and I make sure I keep up with scheduled maintenance, use synthetic oil, and premium fuel.

My IMRC has been connected since day one of the charger install, and I have not encountered any problems while using the standard boost pulley. As a precautionary measure the IMRC can be disconnected for the standard pulley, but MUST be disconnected for the high boost pulley.

Treat your car well, purchase quality performance parts, and you should not have any problems.
disconnecting the IMRC w/standard boost pulley will affect hp?
and when you say precautionary...longer engine life? or just to be safe?
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:35 PM
  #4  
TCM 01 CL-S's Avatar
Uses turn signals in my
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 2
From: South Florida
I believe there is a guy on the 3rd gen TL forum who got to 100k with the supercharger with no problems.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:53 PM
  #5  
Paclark01's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 411
Likes: 3
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by Harrisonk531616
disconnecting the IMRC w/standard boost pulley will affect hp?
and when you say precautionary...longer engine life? or just to be safe?
Personally... If you are concerned about the effects, disconnect the IMRC with standard pulley just to be safe.

I am not sure if there is a decrease in power since I have never disconnected mine and dynoed to see a difference.

PM MrSteve for more information, since he was the source I used answer questions I had, and has a lot of knowledge about the J32 motors in these cars.

FYI, if you haven't already. Order your supercharger via Excelerate. He is a vendor on Acurazine. Excellent service, and decent prices.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 02:51 PM
  #6  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted by Paclark01
Personally... If you are concerned about the effects, disconnect the IMRC with standard pulley just to be safe.

I am not sure if there is a decrease in power since I have never disconnected mine and dynoed to see a difference.

PM MrSteve for more information, since he was the source I used answer questions I had, and has a lot of knowledge about the J32 motors in these cars.

FYI, if you haven't already. Order your supercharger via Excelerate. He is a vendor on Acurazine. Excellent service, and decent prices.
josh is my man, thats who i ordered it from
thanks for the info!
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:08 PM
  #7  
mclarenf3387's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 8,620
Likes: 7
From: Charlotte
There was one member of the forum who before he sold his car had 74k miles on the car and almost 60k of those were with the blower and he never had any problems. I forget exactly if he had the IMRC connected and the high boost pulley, but I think the IMRC was connected and he was running the HBP.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 04:04 PM
  #8  
CL FWD SPEED's Avatar
What to do, what to think
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
with all the standard pulley the IMRC can be connected...HBP you will need to tune it with the e-manage. but I would disconnect it just to be safe. 93 octane for fuel is the best to go. I dynoed at 298whp and 242tq. on a hot day with standard pulley.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 05:57 PM
  #9  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
thats pretty good; what mods do you have?
& have you had nay problems with you supercharger?how many miles?
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:50 PM
  #10  
CL FWD SPEED's Avatar
What to do, what to think
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
all I have is the comptech H/I/E/B-pipe and outlaw thermo spacers. I have about 6k miles on the S/C and no problems at all. just make sure you adjust your valves if needed before you put on the blower.
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:57 AM
  #11  
foreveraflboy's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
From: Shalimar, FL 32579
10,000 on mime with not a single problem and I'm running 9lbs on a daily driver. Just take your time or find a quality shop to do the install. Also do your homework....adjust your valves if needed, cooler plugs, mugen cooling mods, thermo spacers, trans cooler....etc are all well worth doing in conjunction with a project. Basically do it right the first time and enjoy. Clinton
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:05 PM
  #12  
krisdlm's Avatar
Lives On BOOST
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco, Ca
has anyone put a BOV on their s/c?
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:44 PM
  #13  
fuzzy02CLS's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,847
Likes: 223
From: South FL
Well here's my CT pitch.........

CT made the SC to be reliable with minimum effect to the car. Out of the box that standard SC kit is all you need. It's a direct bolt on. You do not need any tuning, & you don't have to disconnect anything, or mess with anything to make it work correctly.
The stuff you hear about is from members who have other FI mods added to the standard setup.


'
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:38 PM
  #14  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted by CL FWD SPEED
all I have is the comptech H/I/E/B-pipe and outlaw thermo spacers. I have about 6k miles on the S/C and no problems at all. just make sure you adjust your valves if needed before you put on the blower.
i will be doing the install myself...
how would i know if i need valve adjusting?
i get a very very subtle ticking sound at idle after warmed up...have around 70k on my car.
but when i start up my car i hear the valves go crazy for like 2 secs, i suppose thats normal for the j series? or its time for adjustment? lol

I use a quart of Lucus syn additive and rest mobil1 520 every 2500...what do you guys think?

w/h is valvues are not adjust and s/c is on"!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:41 PM
  #15  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Well here's my CT pitch.........

CT made the SC to be reliable with minimum effect to the car. Out of the box that standard SC kit is all you need. It's a direct bolt on. You do not need any tuning, & you don't have to disconnect anything, or mess with anything to make it work correctly.
The stuff you hear about is from members who have other FI mods added to the standard setup.


'
very comforting to know and helpful...thanks!
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:25 AM
  #16  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,921
Likes: 2,214
From: S. Florida
I just turned 95K on my CLS-6; with 50K now on the HBP blower unit. The IRMC is disconnected at the cable end with the electrical connection still in place. Mobile1 10w30 goes in every 5K miles. I use a little heavier oil because of the vicious Florida heat and IMHO it does not effect the performance of the car.

I installed a CSF street performance radiator (#3011) when the OE radiator started leaking. That along with the Mugen cooling mods keeps the engine cooler with the A/C on in stop & go traffic. It's a daily driver and is holding up nicely thus far. Only real problem I had with the blower is when it started to leak at the snout; however, that was my fault because I had to remove the S/C to have a new clutch & pressure plate installed at 50K; performed a valve adjustment at 60K. I most likely stressed the area around the snout during the many de and re-installing processes. I just resealed it using the DIY here on the forum and all is well. My goal is to try and get another 50K under my belt and then hopefully Acura will have another Coupe in its line up.

I don't regret spending the money to have the S/C kit and all the goodies. There is nothing like the shit hot feeling it gives you when one has to stomp on it. Oh, and did I mention the whine:
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:24 AM
  #17  
Batosai's Avatar
bye Acura, hello Toyota
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 965
Likes: 5
From: San Jose, CA
Originally Posted by CL FWD SPEED
..... 93 octane for fuel is the best to go.
Must be nice to have 93 octane available...damn Ca 91...
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:24 PM
  #18  
Harrisonk531616's Avatar
Thread Starter
CL-SEXY SIX (=
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted by zeta
I just turned 95K on my CLS-6; with 50K now on the HBP blower unit. The IRMC is disconnected at the cable end with the electrical connection still in place. Mobile1 10w30 goes in every 5K miles. I use a little heavier oil because of the vicious Florida heat and IMHO it does not effect the performance of the car.

I installed a CSF street performance radiator (#3011) when the OE radiator started leaking. That along with the Mugen cooling mods keeps the engine cooler with the A/C on in stop & go traffic. It's a daily driver and is holding up nicely thus far. Only real problem I had with the blower is when it started to leak at the snout; however, that was my fault because I had to remove the S/C to have a new clutch & pressure plate installed at 50K; performed a valve adjustment at 60K. I most likely stressed the area around the snout during the many de and re-installing processes. I just resealed it using the DIY here on the forum and all is well. My goal is to try and get another 50K under my belt and then hopefully Acura will have another Coupe in its line up.

I don't regret spending the money to have the S/C kit and all the goodies. There is nothing like the shit hot feeling it gives you when one has to stomp on it. Oh, and did I mention the whine:
so anxious to get mine now!
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:27 PM
  #19  
TheWeez's Avatar
I Wanna Beer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 109
From: Minneapolis, MN
Originally Posted by krisdlm
has anyone put a BOV on their s/c?
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:07 PM
  #20  
srehmat02's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: S.D./H.B SoCal
Maybe if a company decided to make a centrifugal blower for our cars, you could have a functional BOV.
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:43 PM
  #21  
Accord_V6_400m's Avatar
4drs just wanna have fun!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,268
Likes: 2
From: Long Beach, CA
Originally Posted by TheWeez
Everyone knows that a BOV is absolutely essential in a TB->SC setup, its critical to the proper operation of the SC because without the intake wastegate on the SC it would be overwhelmed with positive pressure
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:18 PM
  #22  
Allout's Avatar
Blown is Best
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
Likes: 15
From: Fresno, CA
Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Everyone knows that a BOV is absolutely essential in a TB->SC setup, its critical to the proper operation of the SC because without the intake wastegate on the SC it would be overwhelmed with positive pressure
Nice
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:19 PM
  #23  
Allout's Avatar
Blown is Best
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
Likes: 15
From: Fresno, CA
50K miles with the SC. Last 10K with the HBP & E-Manage. All with IMRC connected and on 91 octane.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 01:27 AM
  #24  
Accord_V6_400m's Avatar
4drs just wanna have fun!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,268
Likes: 2
From: Long Beach, CA
Originally Posted by Allout
Nice
Thank you my good man
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 03:55 PM
  #25  
CL FWD SPEED's Avatar
What to do, what to think
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted by Allout
50K miles with the SC. Last 10K with the HBP & E-Manage. All with IMRC connected and on 91 octane.
Hey allout do you think I can be IMRC connected w/HBP since I've got 93 octane and just tweak the Fuel pressure up or should I go to your route...e-managed tune?
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:52 PM
  #26  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by Harrisonk531616

I use a quart of Lucus syn additive and rest mobil1 520 every 2500...what do you guys think?
That your wasting money.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 07:57 PM
  #27  
Allout's Avatar
Blown is Best
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
Likes: 15
From: Fresno, CA
Originally Posted by CL FWD SPEED
Hey allout do you think I can be IMRC connected w/HBP since I've got 93 octane and just tweak the Fuel pressure up or should I go to your route...e-managed tune?
I would think you could go with IMRC & HBP with 93 octane and FPR adjustments. The key is to get your foot out of it if you hear any detonation. ThinJim found a nice device that lights up when it senses detonation.

Boomslang harness is $200 and E-Manage Blue is around $300. Add in dyno time and it adds up. If you can get away without it, I would. I just didn't have a choice with 91 octane.
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:48 PM
  #28  
EL19's Avatar
Suzuka Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,340
Likes: 194
From: DC
anyone know if comptech still has the HBP or where i can get one?
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:30 PM
  #29  
JohnBlayz142's Avatar
Keeping the Stealth alive
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
From: Naples/Ft. Myers, Florida
If you want my opinion:

If reliability is at all in question: Don't install an aftermarket FI set up that is not covered under warranty on your DAILY DRIVEN car. Then you have nothing to worry about.

I always laugh at the DSM guys when they talk about how fast their 4g63 setups are but then mention that their cars are always breaking down.

Reliability > * in a daily driver

Just my $.02
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:44 PM
  #30  
Allout's Avatar
Blown is Best
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
Likes: 15
From: Fresno, CA
Originally Posted by JohnBlayz142
If you want my opinion:

If reliability is at all in question: Don't install an aftermarket FI set up that is not covered under warranty on your DAILY DRIVEN car. Then you have nothing to worry about.

I always laugh at the DSM guys when they talk about how fast their 4g63 setups are but then mention that their cars are always breaking down.

Reliability > * in a daily driver

Just my $.02
Mine's a daily driver
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:58 AM
  #31  
Cincycls's Avatar
Advanced
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati
I have a CLS6 with almost 75000. The dealership installed the supercharger 60,000 miles ago and I have had no problems. It is running on the standard boost pulley with the IMRC plugged in. Granted this is my daily driver so I am not very hard on it being my only car. The original clutch still feels like it has plenty of life on it.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:32 PM
  #32  
JohnBlayz142's Avatar
Keeping the Stealth alive
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
From: Naples/Ft. Myers, Florida
Originally Posted by Allout
Mine's a daily driver
Right, and many people's are. I'm just speaking from the approach that if reliability is something you worry about, FI mods will probably affect it in the long run.

Obviously the Comptech setup is not looked at as something extreme or unreliable, but as mentioned earlier, the crazier you get with it, the poorer reliability gets.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jamus22
2G TL Problems & Fixes
24
Jun 11, 2023 10:08 AM
08KBP_VA
2G RL (2005-2012)
44
Oct 22, 2019 01:55 PM
Joe Avesyan
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
Sep 29, 2015 03:57 PM
juanrl
2G RL (2005-2012)
9
Sep 29, 2015 03:25 AM
xsilverhawkx
2G TL Problems & Fixes
5
Sep 28, 2015 06:51 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 PM.