Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
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Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Need your help guys...I'd like to get a list of cars that will run faster than a CL-S. I've got an '03 CL-S 6MT that is stock and was wondering what cars out there can beat the CL-S (stock for stock). Let's just say cars that are less than $60K.
I wouldn't want to be in the situation at a light when someone pulls up and I can't beat them.....not that I race or anything. Just and ego booster.....
I wouldn't want to be in the situation at a light when someone pulls up and I can't beat them.....not that I race or anything. Just and ego booster.....
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Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by gsrblack
Need your help guys...I'd like to get a list of cars that will run faster than a CL-S. I've got an '03 CL-S 6MT that is stock and was wondering what cars out there can beat the CL-S (stock for stock). Let's just say cars that are less than $60K.
I wouldn't want to be in the situation at a light when someone pulls up and I can't beat them.....not that I race or anything. Just and ego booster.....
Need your help guys...I'd like to get a list of cars that will run faster than a CL-S. I've got an '03 CL-S 6MT that is stock and was wondering what cars out there can beat the CL-S (stock for stock). Let's just say cars that are less than $60K.
I wouldn't want to be in the situation at a light when someone pulls up and I can't beat them.....not that I race or anything. Just and ego booster.....
#3
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Under 60k?
New Mustang Cobra (~390HP *drool*)
Chevy Corevette C5, any year of the C5 run, esp. the Z06
M3,Mercede's AMG cars with the 5.5L V8, some can be had for less than 60k.
Probably the SS Camaro, WS6 Trans Am.
Those vette's and Cobras will MANHANDLE CL's, not only in a straight line, but through the corners too (stock, that is) My dad owns a 2000 C5, what a blast to drive, thought I wish it was a Z06, I keep begging him to let me track it :-P
New Mustang Cobra (~390HP *drool*)
Chevy Corevette C5, any year of the C5 run, esp. the Z06
M3,Mercede's AMG cars with the 5.5L V8, some can be had for less than 60k.
Probably the SS Camaro, WS6 Trans Am.
Those vette's and Cobras will MANHANDLE CL's, not only in a straight line, but through the corners too (stock, that is) My dad owns a 2000 C5, what a blast to drive, thought I wish it was a Z06, I keep begging him to let me track it :-P
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not very much....
if the CLS-6 can pull 14.2s than there are few:
1) E46 M3, M5, orr any M.....
2) Mustang Cobras (ho ho 03 gets a SC too)
3) Any MB AMG
4) Porshca! Boxter S and higher...
5) LS1 engined... corvette and V8 Camaros, etc...
Just to name a few... after all those who are 13s stock are not that much
if the CLS-6 can pull 14.2s than there are few:
1) E46 M3, M5, orr any M.....
2) Mustang Cobras (ho ho 03 gets a SC too)
3) Any MB AMG
4) Porshca! Boxter S and higher...
5) LS1 engined... corvette and V8 Camaros, etc...
Just to name a few... after all those who are 13s stock are not that much
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wouldn't want to be in the situation at a light when someone pulls up and I can't beat them.....not that I race or anything. Just and ego booster.....
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I am batting a 1000 right now..........beat the following off the line with my slushbox.........
03 WRX (manual) 1 car lenght
02 Infiniti Q45 (auto) 1/2 car length
02 Mustang GT (manual) 1 car length
So far so good, but it is just a matter of time finding someone with a crappy car that knows how to drive fast and win
03 WRX (manual) 1 car lenght
02 Infiniti Q45 (auto) 1/2 car length
02 Mustang GT (manual) 1 car length
So far so good, but it is just a matter of time finding someone with a crappy car that knows how to drive fast and win
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Originally posted by types4speed
I am batting a 1000 right now..........beat the following off the line with my slushbox.........
03 WRX (manual) 1 car lenght
02 Infiniti Q45 (auto) 1/2 car length
02 Mustang GT (manual) 1 car length
So far so good, but it is just a matter of time finding someone with a crappy car that knows how to drive fast and win
I am batting a 1000 right now..........beat the following off the line with my slushbox.........
03 WRX (manual) 1 car lenght
02 Infiniti Q45 (auto) 1/2 car length
02 Mustang GT (manual) 1 car length
So far so good, but it is just a matter of time finding someone with a crappy car that knows how to drive fast and win
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Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by lou
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
BTW, i dont think that was an ego booster at all...it kinda just killed mine.....besides, regarding the 330ci, 0-60 time for auto, lets say is mid 6's....same as the CLS auto....do u really think itll take it off the line? plus it has 225 hp, and bmw is not exactly a lightweight vehicle u kno...
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Re: Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by mr. big
Gee, it seems like the CLS can be taken by almost every car...So now the question is WHAT CAN IT TAKE off the line???....civics?and old accords or integras? lol....
Gee, it seems like the CLS can be taken by almost every car...So now the question is WHAT CAN IT TAKE off the line???....civics?and old accords or integras? lol....
there are MORE cars the cl-s can beat than it can't beat.
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
ill see you in the spring at tha track. You better have more than that rice rocket.
ill see you in the spring at tha track. You better have more than that rice rocket.
haha, alright dude!! ill see you there! union grove!!! sounds like a plan!
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not just any headers!!! OBX quality headers!!! gotta love it!!
hey, seriously, it would be cool if you brought that 330ci up to union grove, its always a pleasure to meet more forum members even if ya dont have a cl/tl anymore!! there are a few milwaukee area members here including myself that are gonna be going down when that place opens up. actually, i think youve met Brenden before, hes got an Agean Blue CL-S...came down to a meet last year sometime i think.
hey, seriously, it would be cool if you brought that 330ci up to union grove, its always a pleasure to meet more forum members even if ya dont have a cl/tl anymore!! there are a few milwaukee area members here including myself that are gonna be going down when that place opens up. actually, i think youve met Brenden before, hes got an Agean Blue CL-S...came down to a meet last year sometime i think.
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Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
I disagree with the following because I think its a drivers race and can go either way in the 1/4 or stoplight racing (highway would be different in some situations). So in essence, not so easy:
G35 - driver's race
Maxima6 - driver's race
WRX - driver's race
03' Accord coupe 6sp - driver's race
Altima - driver's race
BMW 330ci - driver's race
CLK430 (don't know much about)
LS430 - Big and Heavy
SC430 - Big and heavy
GS430/540 - I think the GS4/540 will win more often then not but a CLS6 might pull an upset here and there.
s2k - Yes, but the driver needs to abuse the car to beat a CLS6
You also forgot to mention an S4 (which is still close and can go either way), C32 (is this car under 60?), and a Lightning.
G35 - driver's race
Maxima6 - driver's race
WRX - driver's race
03' Accord coupe 6sp - driver's race
Altima - driver's race
BMW 330ci - driver's race
CLK430 (don't know much about)
LS430 - Big and Heavy
SC430 - Big and heavy
GS430/540 - I think the GS4/540 will win more often then not but a CLS6 might pull an upset here and there.
s2k - Yes, but the driver needs to abuse the car to beat a CLS6
You also forgot to mention an S4 (which is still close and can go either way), C32 (is this car under 60?), and a Lightning.
Originally posted by lou
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
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yea im sure i wont win the race since im no expert in driving the manual yet. But im willing to try..
I cant get out there till I buy new wheels, i sold my stocks for winter wheels. So thats why i said spring.
I cant get out there till I buy new wheels, i sold my stocks for winter wheels. So thats why i said spring.
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headers,intake,tires,wheels and the 3.5L upgrade and the list of what you can take will grow dramatically...i know he said stock....what fun is that
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Originally posted by ferizzo
TypeR, how is the 3.5 holding up? How about the tranny?
TypeR, how is the 3.5 holding up? How about the tranny?
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Originally posted by typeR
so far no issues and i drive the shit out of it...the track re opens in a couple weeks and id like to post the boards first 13.8** all motor
so far no issues and i drive the shit out of it...the track re opens in a couple weeks and id like to post the boards first 13.8** all motor
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
yea im sure i wont win the race since im no expert in driving the manual yet. But im willing to try..
I cant get out there till I buy new wheels, i sold my stocks for winter wheels. So thats why i said spring.
yea im sure i wont win the race since im no expert in driving the manual yet. But im willing to try..
I cant get out there till I buy new wheels, i sold my stocks for winter wheels. So thats why i said spring.
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dude u got talent. I wish I could race 2 cars at once. just kidding..
I mean, there are not many cars out there that you will meet that will beat you.
1. Take a GS 430 for instance, maybe 200 sold a month.
2. Where you are located.
3. Most people don't race, period let alone a Lex or Benz or BMW driver.
You could go undefeated for awhile.
I mean, there are not many cars out there that you will meet that will beat you.
1. Take a GS 430 for instance, maybe 200 sold a month.
2. Where you are located.
3. Most people don't race, period let alone a Lex or Benz or BMW driver.
You could go undefeated for awhile.
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Re: Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by ferizzo
I disagree with the following because I think its a drivers race and can go either way in the 1/4 or stoplight racing (highway would be different in some situations). So in essence, not so easy:
G35 - driver's race
Maxima6 - driver's race
WRX - driver's race
03' Accord coupe 6sp - driver's race
Altima - driver's race
BMW 330ci - driver's race
CLK430 (don't know much about)
LS430 - Big and Heavy
SC430 - Big and heavy
GS430/540 - I think the GS4/540 will win more often then not but a CLS6 might pull an upset here and there.
s2k - Yes, but the driver needs to abuse the car to beat a CLS6
You also forgot to mention an S4 (which is still close and can go either way), C32 (is this car under 60?), and a Lightning.
I disagree with the following because I think its a drivers race and can go either way in the 1/4 or stoplight racing (highway would be different in some situations). So in essence, not so easy:
G35 - driver's race
Maxima6 - driver's race
WRX - driver's race
03' Accord coupe 6sp - driver's race
Altima - driver's race
BMW 330ci - driver's race
CLK430 (don't know much about)
LS430 - Big and Heavy
SC430 - Big and heavy
GS430/540 - I think the GS4/540 will win more often then not but a CLS6 might pull an upset here and there.
s2k - Yes, but the driver needs to abuse the car to beat a CLS6
You also forgot to mention an S4 (which is still close and can go either way), C32 (is this car under 60?), and a Lightning.
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Originally posted by mr. big
Gee, it seems like the CLS can be taken by almost every car...So now the question is WHAT CAN IT TAKE off the line???....civics?and old accords or integras? lol....
BTW, i dont think that was an ego booster at all...it kinda just killed mine.....besides, regarding the 330ci, 0-60 time for auto, lets say is mid 6's....same as the CLS auto....do u really think itll take it off the line? plus it has 225 hp, and bmw is not exactly a lightweight vehicle u kno...
Gee, it seems like the CLS can be taken by almost every car...So now the question is WHAT CAN IT TAKE off the line???....civics?and old accords or integras? lol....
BTW, i dont think that was an ego booster at all...it kinda just killed mine.....besides, regarding the 330ci, 0-60 time for auto, lets say is mid 6's....same as the CLS auto....do u really think itll take it off the line? plus it has 225 hp, and bmw is not exactly a lightweight vehicle u kno...
I don't know to much about the 330 Auto but its tranny is got to be better than ours if the fluid never needs to be changed. WTF
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The CLS is defintely quick for what it is...a entry luxury coupe with some sport.
Lou I hear you on the weight, its just that the cars mentioned should be faster but have been proven to be equal in speed to the CLS. For example, the BMWs seem to underestimate their numbers while Infiniti tends to overestimate. Some of the others are lighter but maybe not as well geared or just less hp. Personally I think the CLS/TLS is in good company with all those cars. Then again, as someone stated, whats the fun in being stock!
Lou I hear you on the weight, its just that the cars mentioned should be faster but have been proven to be equal in speed to the CLS. For example, the BMWs seem to underestimate their numbers while Infiniti tends to overestimate. Some of the others are lighter but maybe not as well geared or just less hp. Personally I think the CLS/TLS is in good company with all those cars. Then again, as someone stated, whats the fun in being stock!
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Gee i am upset with you people, no mention of the big ol 4 door sedan that weighs 3750 without driver has only 250hp and ran 14.4 1/4 mile at Englistown bone stock. none other than the big portly A6 2.7T 6 speed. In fact it ran 14.4 14.5 14.5 back to back to back. That would be a good run with a CLS 6 speed I would think.
The S4 6 speed would be quicker than that. : ))
The S4 6 speed would be quicker than that. : ))
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Originally posted by Ming 2.7T
Gee i am upset with you people, no mention of the big ol 4 door sedan that weighs 3750 without driver has only 250hp and ran 14.4 1/4 mile at Englistown bone stock. none other than the big portly A6 2.7T 6 speed. In fact it ran 14.4 14.5 14.5 back to back to back. That would be a good run with a CLS 6 speed I would think.
The S4 6 speed would be quicker than that. : ))
Gee i am upset with you people, no mention of the big ol 4 door sedan that weighs 3750 without driver has only 250hp and ran 14.4 1/4 mile at Englistown bone stock. none other than the big portly A6 2.7T 6 speed. In fact it ran 14.4 14.5 14.5 back to back to back. That would be a good run with a CLS 6 speed I would think.
The S4 6 speed would be quicker than that. : ))
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Originally posted by ferizzo
The CLS is defintely quick for what it is...a entry luxury coupe with some sport.
Lou I hear you on the weight, its just that the cars mentioned should be faster but have been proven to be equal in speed to the CLS. For example, the BMWs seem to underestimate their numbers while Infiniti tends to overestimate. Some of the others are lighter but maybe not as well geared or just less hp. Personally I think the CLS/TLS is in good company with all those cars. Then again, as someone stated, whats the fun in being stock!
The CLS is defintely quick for what it is...a entry luxury coupe with some sport.
Lou I hear you on the weight, its just that the cars mentioned should be faster but have been proven to be equal in speed to the CLS. For example, the BMWs seem to underestimate their numbers while Infiniti tends to overestimate. Some of the others are lighter but maybe not as well geared or just less hp. Personally I think the CLS/TLS is in good company with all those cars. Then again, as someone stated, whats the fun in being stock!
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The BMW 330ci will NOT beat a CL-S! I have first hand knowledge of this, because my nitwit nephew just bought one, a used one with 9,000 miles on it, and I drove it. It is a very nice car, but get this deal, I don't know if you will laugh or cry! 2002 BMW 330 ci, nephew put down $10,000 cash, and now has SIXTY MONTHS of $475 payments. Anyway, he let me drive the BMW and he sat right seat. When we got back, I gave him the keys to the CL-S. After five minutes of blasting down the expressway, nephew said "Gee, I wish I would have test driven one of these before buying the BMW." $38,500 for a used BMW vs. $31,050 for a new CL-S that is noticeably faster? There must be a turnip truck around here somewhere, because this kid just fell off of it! He is now trying to undo the deal with the BMW dealer (that won't happen.) I told him that "the next time you want to buy another car, call me first." I feel sorry for him though, you could see his ego was crushed when he left. Knowing what I know now, I should probably have left the keys to the Acura in my pocket. That way, he probably won't hurt so bad as he writes out his $475 check for the next SIXTY MONTHS! As I trade my cars every 365 days (the first Saturday after Thanksgiving), I have offered him my 03, and he will try to sell the bummer bimmer.
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I should also add that the nephew with the 330ci bought an automatic transmission model, not a manual. I don't know if this hurts or helps the BMW. The auto trannie BMW should be a direct comparison to my dads' 3.2 TL, one would think.
Hey Jimcol: I work for ITW, and we own Miller Electric in Appleton, WI. I will probably go there in January, 2003. Are you near the expressway that bypasses Milwaukee? I wouldn't mind meeting you. Dave
Hey Jimcol: I work for ITW, and we own Miller Electric in Appleton, WI. I will probably go there in January, 2003. Are you near the expressway that bypasses Milwaukee? I wouldn't mind meeting you. Dave