Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
#41
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Originally posted by dfreder370
I should also add that the nephew with the 330ci bought an automatic transmission model, not a manual. I don't know if this hurts or helps the BMW. The auto trannie BMW should be a direct comparison to my dads' 3.2 TL, one would think.
Dave
I should also add that the nephew with the 330ci bought an automatic transmission model, not a manual. I don't know if this hurts or helps the BMW. The auto trannie BMW should be a direct comparison to my dads' 3.2 TL, one would think.
Dave
As for the automatic, a couple of car rags posted upper 14s with it and we KNOW they cant drive for crap.
Peace.
#42
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
Mr. big
is the 330 a manual?
Mr. big
is the 330 a manual?
#43
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
bmw isnt worth owning if its an auto. Plus take that 330 into the twisties.. and see which you like better.
bmw isnt worth owning if its an auto. Plus take that 330 into the twisties.. and see which you like better.
#44
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Originally posted by lou
Your right but I was figuring a stock CL-S auto a 6 sp. will be a little more competitive but its still like u say "a driver's race ". You got to remember the CL is heavier than any of the cars listed on the first list by 100-200lbs major disadvantage.
Your right but I was figuring a stock CL-S auto a 6 sp. will be a little more competitive but its still like u say "a driver's race ". You got to remember the CL is heavier than any of the cars listed on the first list by 100-200lbs major disadvantage.
#45
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Originally posted by mr. big
it is an auto tiptronic....so i dont kno if there will be a big difference as compared to the manual....I dont think auto vs. manual makes that large of a difference....maybe a 1/10 of a sec...what do u think?
it is an auto tiptronic....so i dont kno if there will be a big difference as compared to the manual....I dont think auto vs. manual makes that large of a difference....maybe a 1/10 of a sec...what do u think?
modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.
You will win against an auto.
#46
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.
You will win against an auto.
modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.
You will win against an auto.
#48
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
How about the neon?
How about the neon?
#49
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
How about the neon?
How about the neon?
OK maybe not the world but maybe in America
and Im out
#51
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
MAybe the Maxima is very close... to that title.
MAybe the Maxima is very close... to that title.
#52
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Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by lou
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
easy 350Z, G35, MB CLK 430 and 500, BMW 330 ci, M 3, Corvette Z06, WRX, S2k, 03' Accord coupe 6sp., altima 3.5 manual, Maxima 6sp., BMW 540, mazda rx8, lexus gs430 and ls430 and sc430, acura 02' cls auto particularly mine, mmm. I can think of many more hows that for an ego booster.
#53
Originally posted by lou
so that settles it....the CL-S is the FASTEST FWD automatic STOCK car in the WORLD. we just made history guys congratulations and we're backed with a 7 yr. 100k mile warranty on our trannys. Does life get any better.
so that settles it....the CL-S is the FASTEST FWD automatic STOCK car in the WORLD. we just made history guys congratulations and we're backed with a 7 yr. 100k mile warranty on our trannys. Does life get any better.
#54
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.
You will win against an auto.
modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.
You will win against an auto.
#55
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Re: Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by Ant7701
Fuck the G35 , fuck the Maxima , fuck the WRX , the 330ci and especially the altima . What are you kiddin . How the hell do you drive if you lose to an altima or 330ci . I smoke them all day long with an 01 CL-S , with nothing more than an Aem cai and mufflers . Maybe you should actually floor the pedal when you race . You would be pretty surprised on how fast your car is .
Fuck the G35 , fuck the Maxima , fuck the WRX , the 330ci and especially the altima . What are you kiddin . How the hell do you drive if you lose to an altima or 330ci . I smoke them all day long with an 01 CL-S , with nothing more than an Aem cai and mufflers . Maybe you should actually floor the pedal when you race . You would be pretty surprised on how fast your car is .
1) Which part of NY are you in?
2) Do you plan on going to Etown during 2003?
If you answer 'yes' to #2 let me know when.
Peace.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by F23A4
Two questions:
1) Which part of NY are you in?
2) Do you plan on going to Etown during 2003?
If you answer 'yes' to #2 let me know when.
Peace.
Two questions:
1) Which part of NY are you in?
2) Do you plan on going to Etown during 2003?
If you answer 'yes' to #2 let me know when.
Peace.
#58
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Originally posted by mr. big
question for u...say if on the 330 auto, u put it into SS mode...isnt that essentially the same??..i mean, u can shift it whenever u want...and keep the rpms at redline as well...ur saying that the 330 stick runs about 1 sec. faster than auto...and thats alot bro
question for u...say if on the 330 auto, u put it into SS mode...isnt that essentially the same??..i mean, u can shift it whenever u want...and keep the rpms at redline as well...ur saying that the 330 stick runs about 1 sec. faster than auto...and thats alot bro
I driven both, and automatics even in the SS mode on BMWs arent nearly as fast as the manuals are. Even magazines have proven this with their times... always the manual is much faster.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock Cars Faster than CL-S
Originally posted by torqueaholic
do you have an acura/honda? if no then hope U know that this makes you a TROLL. here's a forum to redirect you--> www.freshalloy.com
do you have an acura/honda? if no then hope U know that this makes you a TROLL. here's a forum to redirect you--> www.freshalloy.com
Note the meaning---motor for my 99 Honda Accord
There's a forum I should redirect you to but I'm a better person than that.
Peace...or whatever...
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Originally posted by mr. big
question for u...say if on the 330 auto, u put it into SS mode...isnt that essentially the same??..i mean, u can shift it whenever u want...and keep the rpms at redline as well...ur saying that the 330 stick runs about 1 sec. faster than auto...and thats alot bro
question for u...say if on the 330 auto, u put it into SS mode...isnt that essentially the same??..i mean, u can shift it whenever u want...and keep the rpms at redline as well...ur saying that the 330 stick runs about 1 sec. faster than auto...and thats alot bro
Also, as mentioned, the automatics normally have less aggressive gearing.
Due to the fluid coupling and normally more complex design, the auto looses more power through it than a similar manual. Combine this with the less aggressive gearing and there is noticeably less power being put to the ground at a given gear and RPM.
And one final aspect, automatic transmissions normally weigh more, from 60 - 120 Lbs in most cases. This is beginning to change as they have begun making the automatics more compact. But in general, manuals weigh less.
#61
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Two answers :
1. I live in Nassau County and I might plan on going to E-town . I just dunno the date everyone is going . Why , do you want your Max to get smoked or your Accord , He He , just playin
2. Lowering the car DOES NOT VOID ANY WARRANTY except for that of a suspension problem , even in that case it's rare and limited .
Also with the 330ci , the automatic may have the SS mode , however that doesn't do anything for your launch like a manual will do . Plus on some cars , autos actually have less hp along with the lower gear ratios in the trans.
1. I live in Nassau County and I might plan on going to E-town . I just dunno the date everyone is going . Why , do you want your Max to get smoked or your Accord , He He , just playin
2. Lowering the car DOES NOT VOID ANY WARRANTY except for that of a suspension problem , even in that case it's rare and limited .
Also with the 330ci , the automatic may have the SS mode , however that doesn't do anything for your launch like a manual will do . Plus on some cars , autos actually have less hp along with the lower gear ratios in the trans.
#62
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Originally posted by OUTRAGEOUS CL TYPE S
i dont know about the g35, in the new motor trend, 0-60 and quater mile cls had an advantage over the coupe.
i dont know about the g35, in the new motor trend, 0-60 and quater mile cls had an advantage over the coupe.
What was the advantage ? I don't know , anyways I took a new 4 door G35 by about 1-1+1/2 cars three times in a row . The kid liked having his ass handed to him . Maybe he didn't know how to drive or something? Anyways , Abe , do you still want to buy my exhaust . If so pm me .
#63
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Originally posted by Ant7701
Two answers :
1. I live in Nassau County and I might plan on going to E-town . I just dunno the date everyone is going . Why , do you want your Max to get smoked or your Accord , He He , just playin
Two answers :
1. I live in Nassau County and I might plan on going to E-town . I just dunno the date everyone is going . Why , do you want your Max to get smoked or your Accord , He He , just playin
#64
Originally posted by F23A4
Kewl!! Maybe we could do some kinda TL/CL vs Max/Altima event. (Kind of in the spirit Etown's Mustang vs Camaro contests.) Could be a load of fun!!
Kewl!! Maybe we could do some kinda TL/CL vs Max/Altima event. (Kind of in the spirit Etown's Mustang vs Camaro contests.) Could be a load of fun!!
#65
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Yeah, I have the VQ35DE equipped Maxima (2002 model) with 255hp. Outside of my aftermartket front and rear strut bars, I'm still stock. Although, I may have an AEM CAI come Spring 2003.
I'm thinking we should do the race-meet during March 2003, while it's still cool out.
Keep in touch. Ant, are you down??
I'm thinking we should do the race-meet during March 2003, while it's still cool out.
Keep in touch. Ant, are you down??
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