Are they releasing a manual for the 2002 CL/S?

 

2003

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better ask doug he said 02!!!



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'01 3.2 CL typeS
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Llumar platinum plus
tint 20% all around

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'98 ACCORD V-6 sedan
16" coupe wheels
215/55/16 nitto's
20% smoke titanium
black chrome kit

 

They are never going to release a J block CL with a manual tranny. If they did... they'd have already done it with the accord. More buyers to test it with and since the markets not out there...there aren't gonna be any.

Think bout this, an Acura Legend coupe with a 6 spd tranny is sort of a rarity. Not that many people bought them.

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1997 Acura 2.2 CL (5spd)
rubber tires, windshield wipers, headlights, horn, steering wheel, BRAKE PEDAL, clutch, brake pads, driver seat, passenger seat, back seat, front windshield, rear windshield (with defroster), lumbar support, cruise control, intermitent wiper control, sun roof (tinted), engine, pistons (only 4), emergency brake handle, trunk w/ tools, spare tire

 

When I bought my 91 Legend Coupe w/5-Speed manual, I had to wait 6-Months for it to come in.
They told me that only ONE out of every ONE HUNDRED Legends was a Coupe and only ONE out of every ONE HUNDRED Coupes was a stick shift.

Supposedly they had a lot of warranty problems with them as well, which was another reason for doing away with stick shift.
I had 110,000 on the original clutch when I sold mine so I guess those people just didn’t know how to drive stick.

My CL-S is up for sale as soon as a 6-Speed is available.
I HATE the SLUSH SHIFT.

Shawn S


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This is all speculation -- does anyone realy know (even Acura) ?????



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I hate to introduce more speculation, but, when I bought, my dealer said a Honda rep. told him at a meeting....

"We can't justify putting a manual in the CL. You say demand isn't an issue. You say to just do it. But the truth is, in order to sell the manual, we would have to go through the entire EPA certification process again just for the model with the manual gearbox, and we, as a company, cannot justify that expenditure for sales of of less than 10% of the CL's total sales volume."

That said, it appears that Honda doesn't want to spend the jack to get it EPA certified.

PS... The 5-speed in the Legend coupes and sedans 1991-1992 was a nasty gearbox. I've heard from countless Honda/Acura mechanics to avoid specimens with this gearbox. In 1993 the six speed was introduced, and from what I've heard, is a MUCH better tranny.

A 1995 Legend sedan with the 6sp stick would be a nice sleeper ride.

Let's all say a little prayer, and write to Honda to get a manual in the CL/TL.

Paul

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2001 White CL Type S noNAV
#21985

 

Once again, we have the Feds to thank for our situation. Maybe someone should tell the EPA that the tailpipe is connected to the engine, not the transmission.

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2001 Silver 3.2CL Type S with Spoiler and Navi

 

Hey guys!! I spoke to Doug at Rick Case Acura last Friday & he told me that the 2002 CL-S will be out in August of this year. He also told me that they will have the CL-S in a 6 SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION with a LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL. How do ya like them apples?

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Of course that's what we would all like to hear, but how reliable is that information?

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2001 White CL Type S noNAV
#21985

 

I GUESS WE'LL ALL SEE IN AUGUST. I DO KNOW THAT DOUG REALLY KNOWS HIS SH*T. HE TOLD ME ABOUT THE 3.5 CL-S HE WAS GOING TO BUILD BEFORE IT EVEN EXISTED. IF I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT 4 MONTHS AGO YOU WOULD HAVE SAID THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW, THIS CAR REALLY DOES EXIST & mchtypeS IS GETTING THE 3.5 CONVERSION DONE TO HIS CAR AS WE SPEAK. SO FOR ALL THE NON-BELIEVERS, I GUESS WE'LL SEE HOW RELIABLE THIS INFORMATION IS LATER ON THIS YEAR.

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Shut up! Shut up! MF'er! I still own 14k on my CL-S and am still shaking from the stick withdrawls. I'm gonna shit if your story turns out to be true.

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2001 Silver 3.2CL Type S with Spoiler and Navi

 

IMO, Acura needs a Type R version of the CL to aim squarely at the M3. Install a stick, beef the brakes and suspension more and drop the cushy stuff (pwr seats, nav, etc) to dial back the weight - and you've got what the Type S should really been......again, IMO.

 

C'mon Honda, you gotta spend $$$ to make $$$!!

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I just thought of something: Do you think a manual CL-S would cost more to insure? I wonder if insurance companies see high HP and a manual trans and get nervous. Even though is a luxo-coupe and not a sports car, the 260HP rating attracts a lot of attention.

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2001 Silver 3.2CL Type S with Spoiler and Navi

 

If you wana make the CLS at type R, thats means its time for a DOHC, no more of this SOCH shit. then we would have a red line of 8200 or something. when that happens, they should call it a day. My Vision: 3.5 CLS 6spd manual DOHC, 320hp w/ 285trq, in yellow. Thats when i bust my nut! Can we say, bye bye any car that runs in high to mid 5's, thats when we claim our right to kill 911's!! ahhahahaahahah

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

 

well.. i bought my car in dec 2000, if they r coming out with sitck in Aug 2001, do u guys think i can trade mine in? i bought the car , not lease. but i m doing the payment thing....

 

probaly not a good idea, unless you like taking a great loss w/ your money. but 2 years, eh, who knows. maybe it could turn out to be a good deal.

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

 

It depends on how much you financed. Cars lose a lot of resale value the minute you drive them off the lot. So if you financed the whole thing, you're upside down (owe more than its worth) for a long time. You'd sell the car and then have to write the bank a check for the difference before you can even talk about a new loan. Of course, some salesman will tell you he can pay of your loan or some bullshit. He's just going to jack up the price of the new car to cover it. He can't get around the fact that your car is worth a lot less now. In my case, I only financed about 65% of the total cost so I have equity in the car right now. But it would still cost me a few K's to make the change.

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2001 Silver 3.2CL Type S with Spoiler and Navi

 

errr. 0 downpayment here...

 

I think some upgraded brakes would help with that package. Something that fast needs some killer brakes to go with it. We are already don't have enough brakes (for repeated stops) (my opinion)

A DOHC is nice, but it also takes up more room. The best thing is the ability to add the new variable timing to both the intake and exhaust (like the VANOS), but still keep the VTEC. The DOHC "generally" allow for better air flow, since the valves can be very far apart. With that said, it is possible to get almost the same effect, by going to titanium rockers (or strong forged aluminum rockers that minimize flex *and* just increase the valve geometry to mimic that of a DOHC. (This was similar to the long rockers of the early BMW 2002s with SOHC, but near DOHC performance.)

Just a thought or three and just my opinion.





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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
• Comptech headers & sways ready
• Silver AEM CAI ready
• 8 coats of Zaino magic

 

Hmm, honda can't justify giving their performance orientated luxury coupe a manual tranny, but Toyota can give one to their high priced 4 Door Civic (IS300)?!?! I don't get it. Yes Toyota is much bigger than Honda, but Toyota has been increasingly stepping up to the plate to wage war with Honda to attract the younger buyers. They now participate in CART in a somewhat respectable place (due to overwhelming amounts of funds, as they bought out Chip/Ganassi) and they will be joining the run in F1 what, next year?? MSNBC also had an article that directly stated that Toyota has indeed officially declared War on Honda. The one thing that Honda has in their favor is the tendency for the american youth to jump on the Honda bandwagon regardless of performance or looks or relability, as it shows in the already near abundance of the 2001 Civic EX, eventhough the front suspension has been downplayed for comfortability and the engine ofcourse is a baseline VTEC. Namesake and the cliche mainstream like quality of Honda does that for itself. However, the same thing can be said in general for Toyotas, and if they continue to rest on their past laurels while Toyota continues to strive and push the envelope, Honda will (and hopefully) feel the brunt of the blow that Toyotas (and even now Nissan) is delivering. Have you ever seen Toyota and Nissan commercials (including Lexus/Infiniti)?? Compare them with the Acura/Honda commercials. Then tell me which one you'd rather purchase for performance. I understand that the mainstream doesn't care about performance, but they CL Type S wasn't built for the mainstream, it was built exclusively for those that care about performance, and a manual tranny is one of those things that come with performance orientated cars. The demand is there, but the consumer won't be if Honda doesn't deliver. How many BMW drivers are just itching to switch over to a Honda if only they'd bring out a RWD 5/6 speed?? The s2000 was a step in the right direction, now it's time to improve upon that and deliver it to their other performance models. These are just my opinions.

Also, a DOHC is NOT necessary to have higher redlines, just the ability for the valvetrain and crankshaft to accept the abuse and the air flow to be there to extract higher peak power. The Accord AC-R has a redline in the 8 grand range with an SOHC engine, although I'm sure it cost some penny's to get it there.




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my bad it comes out now in august manual tranny and limited slip differential(optional)

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2001 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter and b&m tranny cooler)3.5 litre upgrade on april 16!(dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished, vtec timing

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

 

considering all the things that toyota is planning, i'm not too afraid.

yes, maybe toyota is waging war on honda, but it's not like honda isn't doing anything.

in 2000, we got the s2000, in 2001, we got the cl-s and mdx, in 2002, we got a tl-s and (i think 2002 rsx).

then we got the next rl coming up, supposed to be in less than a year i guess. and also a new accord in less than a year.

it's better that toyota is coming out with something sooner...they'll get a jump on the competition, but so did the rx300. honda now has a better chance of know what to beat rather than trying to guess where the level is at.

and i leave you with this...we, people who have no stake (most of us anyway) in honda motor corp except for our cars, feel that toyota and nissan is stepping up. if people that have no stake in honda knows about this now, how long ago do you think people who actually DO have a stake in it knew about it and have prepared for it? i'm sure they have people who's job it is just to find out what the competition is doing to get the edge.

 

Chill, man.

I'm not doubting you. I just asked a question, and never said I didn't believe you.

I for one, hope you and Doug are right!


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2001 White/Parchment CL Type S noNAV
#21985

 

no doubt! The 2002 cl with a 5 speed is a good step forward in performance.....lets see how long it will take for the after-market segment to jump in and strat producing some parts for cl & cl-s..... greddy....hks....wings west.....anybody???

 

The only way we are getting a manual is if we share the one that the new NSX will be wearing. I doubt it for the 2002 model. If it happens it will probably happen in 2002 as a 2003 model.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

 

Toyota has also been testing a Busch series NASCAR chassis with a modified Celica body ... Don't know if they are doing it or not, but they are at least considering it.

 

I sure hope you're right, because so far it seems Honda is following the typical route they've been following, where we're getting the 160bhp Civic Si Hatch, and Europe get the 200bhp Civic Type R (RSX Type S engine), and where we get the base 160bhp RSX and the 200bhp RSX Type S, Honda of Japan gets the 220bhp Integra Type R. I have also seen an article that stated Honda was still going to stick with a v6 for the new NSX (As we all have been hoping and hearing of a 4.0 liter v8). Generally I don't think the majority of people worry because the majority of people really don't care, they're satisfied with what they have. Only time will tell with what comes next...

 

Indeed you're correct, I remember seeing that article in a Motor Trend...let's see...here it is, April 2000, Page 90, same issue with one of the most sickest if not THE sickest production cars in the world, the McLaren F1 LM.

It says they're hoping to enter the Goody's Dash series, I guess one of the lower rungs of NASCAR according to them as I don't follow NASCAR, and it's lower than the Busch Series. Also says "With NASCAR reluctant to permit the 2000 Celica, Van Cleef was left with old-style bodywork while Toyota sought to get the Solara sheetmetal approved."

They also talk of hopes to get a Tundra into the Craftsman Series.

Sorry for all the "T" Talk...

 

I highly doubt you're going to see a manual until the CL gets redesigned again (probably 2003 or 2004). Until then you're going to see little changes like smaller mirrors, body colored door handles, etc. Don't hold your breath and most of all, don't sweat it. They never offered a manual in the 3.0 CL either, so don't count on it until a redesign happens....



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0 ** Some mods, but who cares, I want a Type-S!!

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Hey, has anyone seen this tidbit from vtec.net?

http://www.vtec.net/news/items/668.html


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kix S

2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
Silver/Ebony
Sans "3.2 CL Type S" Badges

Retired: 1995 Mazda Protege LX

 

isn't that the same guy that said the tl/cl is a totally different platform than the accord when the cl was introduced?