Hey, why dont we get some CONCLUSIVE and accurate tranny failure information from this site....we've tried in the past to do a poll but alot of people just dont bother posting because they either dont care or just dont want to...how about you set up a poll that EVERYONE MUST post on in order to continue posting on the board....like at midnight tonight, set up a poll for tranny failures like "yes it failed, no it didnt, yes it failed once, twice, three times, etc...yes it failed at high speed and shifted into 2nd gear" now what you would have to do is like deactivate everyones posting priviliges UNTIL they make a simple response to the poll, and as soon as they post a response, they can continue using this site as normal....set it up so everyone, MUST post....that way we will have TRUE and conclusive data as far as tranny failures are concerned...you know at least 500 or more people are active users here so you would easily be able to get about 500 responses in no time, and those numbers would be a very good analysis of the problem here on this site....what do you guys think? im sure you can do this somehow...and it would be a great way to gauge the true failure rate, also make it so every NEW member has to answer to that poll before being able to post...

 

the poll could be seperated as follows:

-yes it failed once and was replaced by dealer

-yes it failed twice and was replaced by dealer again

-yes it failed three times or more and was replaced every time

-yes it failed at high speeds and shifted to 2nd and was replaced

-i have a 2nd gen 5 speed auto CL/TL but it did not fail yet

-i do not have a 2nd gen 5 speed auto CL or TL so i do not apply

 

well id have to implement some sort of feature that auto restricts access until they post to that.

lemme think about this one.

 

Why not just make it

-Fail

-Did not fail

-N/A


It sucks that some people go through 2,3 4 trannys, but we should just try and capture, a YES or NO.


Then again this has been tried in the tranny forum before... And not too many poeple replied.

 

yeah, thats exactly what im talkin about soopa, im not sure how much of a pain in the ass that would be but i think it its not too much of a big deal, it would be a really good way to get everyones participation and get some solid numbers in the progress that could be used by all of us if ever confronted by a dealer or something or having problems with warranty work and stuff...and it would be conclusive evidence that may come in handy someday...the only difficult thing i can forsee happening is if someone like me, whose tranny hasnt failed yet, puts my vote in the "it did not fail yet" box, and then 4 weeks from now, my tranny dies, you would have to be able to update the findings if more fail as time goes on..but im sure everyone that has a failure after they vote would be more than happy to drop a line saying "yo soopa, change my vote to "yeah my tranny failed its a peice of shit" hehehe

 

scrib, thats why i said, to lock everyones ability to post UNTIL they participate in the poll..that way everyone would have no choice but to post.

 

I don't see the value? Acura has admitted 16,000 failures (1.6%, but could be up to double that on CL-S). I don't think a lot of people will like being bothered with it. What about people that don't have the 5AT, they can't add anything but would have to make some kind of an entry. YMMV

 

If it can be done, go for it...

Watch our member count go from 8000 to 300.

 

don't force the issue, it ain't changing nothing

 

yeah but what if people are inputting false information.. such as choosing the 3 times or more.. when they dont even drive a CL/TL... the info will not be accurate..

If you ask for a detailed description of the event then maybe..b/c only the people that it actually happened to will take the time and write down the info..

 

 

acura is coming up with that number by adding soooo many different cars together including lumping accords in there as well!! so their numbers are TOTALLY SKEWED!! its just a ploy to make the number seem lower....see, if we had a solid number that was JUST of acura CL-S and TL-S now THAT would speak volumes!! because they arent seperating it out like that....

 

Put me down for a N/A

Shawn S

 

haha, why would anyone STOP being a member here just because they have to take 5 seconds and answer a simple question about their transmission?? thats just silly

 

Nope, won't work for the following reasons:

1. What if someone is not a member and just wants to browse it, are you going to force everyone to become a member before they can browse it?
2. Ok, lets say you recognize IP addresses and ask only registred members... Are you going to ask every member? Event the ones that don't have Acura yet, and just here for the fun? Or what if they have older Acura ? Are you gonna mix two numbers together?

 

make everyone include their VIN number...

this won't work, what channel is golden girls on?

 

simple solution...dont base it on IP address...base it on Screenname....and as far as other car owners, etc...there would be a generic choice that would include anyone that does not have a CL or TL with the 5 speed auto.....everyone else with 6 speeds, 1st gen CL's, and any other car would be lumped into a "i do not apply" category....and yes, every single member should have to post, CL owner or not, its the only way to get everyone to do it, make everyone post one response in the poll in order to continue posting as normal and to be a new member if you arent already be a member. and sure, people could browse without needing to participate, but anyone who is registered to this site as a member would have to post in that poll before they could post again...so if you didnt care about posting, fine, dont participte in the poll but you will only be able to browse until you do so...

 

OK... If this is something that everyone really wants to happen, why not this...

Create a thread with the poll, asking for their vote (whatever that may be).

Each member will then vote, and just put there name in the quick response.

Mods will create a list of ALL members. Once the member votes, their name is taken off the master list by the mods.

After a set number of days, the thread is closed and those members who didn't vote will be removed from the site.


Not only would this give us some good numbers to go by for tranny issues, but a lot of the accounts that aren't used any longer will be removed, and that's probably a good thing.

Question is... Do the mods really want to be deleting accounts???

 

scrib, thats a good idea, i like it...im sure theres tons of defunct accounts here

 

Good idea. Make a rule: Vote on tranny poll or have your account deleted in 20 days.
Also,
1. Have all the new members who create acounts vote
2. Have everybody vote before posting anything

Maksure sure poll has a choice for
"N/A, I don't drive 3.2 CLS/CL, or I do not own Acura"


Dictatorship is the only way to make people vote.

 

What if that one applies but they've also killed two trannies? Which option do they choose?

 

Where is the Value in FORCING people to vote???

 

If you decide to do this Soopa, lets review the poll choices before putting it up so that it will be of some value for us here on the board. The choices already mentioned by jimcol711 are non-exclusive, as pointed out by JRock, so that obviously won't work. BTW, what's the maximum number of choices for a poll so that I can try and come up with something?

 

if people arent forced to contribute, most simply wont contribute as we have seen from past tranny polls....if we force the participation, it will be so simple to get much much more participation with will make the end resulting numbers much more accurate

 

Much more accurate will still not make them accurate.

 

Ummm...going against the grain...again.


I don't think you could or should force people to contribute to the tranny discussion, even if it is just by a vote.

I really don't think you can force people to contribute. If they really don't want to participate in the poll, then they probably won't come back until the lockout is disabled...or they won't come back at all...or they could just vote for whatevers on the top of the list to get the thing unlocked, which would skew your poll.

Even if you COULD, I don't think you SHOULD force people to contribute. There's nothing wrong with lurkers. Today's lurker is tomorrow's resident expert when some question comes up that happens to be in his/her wheelhouse of experience. Even if someone never contributes a thing, I still like the fact that a fellow owner can stay updated on issues concerning his/her car.

Personally, I'm kind of glad the tranny discussions were moved to their own forum because I was getting tired of "all tranny all the time". With this lockout thing it would be like "your tranny contribution or your life".


Just doesn't sit well with me, but I respect where you all are coming from, and in the end it's not that big a deal (the poll that is, not the tranny)

 

ok were gettin a bit out of hand here folks. this aint nazi germany...

but umm... like i said... ill think up a way to appease everyone. leave the admin'n to da soopa