Is something wrong with my car....or is it just that slow?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 12:53 PM
  #1  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Is something wrong with my car....or is it just that slow?

Last night I was coming home around 1:30 in the morning and this Mustang GT Convertable pulls up to me at the light. He revs it up so I get ready for the light to turn and take off the VSA. I get a really nice jump on the guy, but he pulls hard and takes my by about 2-3 car lenghts. The thing that bothers me is that he had a Convertable (more weight) and a passenger while it was just me in the car. Plus with my mods I thought I would at least be able to hang with the guy. Would this be the typical outcome of a race like this? Or is there something wrong with my car?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 12:56 PM
  #2  
Mike's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,925
Likes: 12
From: location location
The only way to know for sure is to get your car dyno'd. Have you taken it to the track? The GT probably wasn't stock but either way a well driven GT will beat a CL w/mods. Was it a MT or an auto GT?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 01:24 PM
  #3  
4thGSi's Avatar
STi
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,024
Likes: 0
From: Windy City~Chicago, IL
What year was the Mustang GT?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:00 PM
  #4  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
I know for sure it was a manual tranny just cause he was rolling backwards a bit when we were at the light. As far as what year it was, it was an older body style, probably between the years '93-'98...it wasn't the new body style. I'm gunna take my car to the track on Friday though to see what I can run. Would not resetting the ECU after the Header install cause my car to run slower? Thanks for the replies
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:50 PM
  #5  
Black CL-S 4-Life's Avatar
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 14,078
Likes: 5
From: The City of Syrup Screwston, Texas
I think your acutuator is screwed.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 06:05 PM
  #6  
roo97ss's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Newark, DE
when it comes to a mustang, you never know what you're gonna get. there's many a poser out there and many a real deal.

I've beaten down many a loud, loud, shaker hood wearing, 18" chrome wheeled GT, and been handed my own ass by a 15" wheeled, bondoed up POS more than once.

It's possible you found a nicely modded, or nicely driven GT (slightly modded GT).

...and this is in my 12 and 13 sec camaros, not the CL-S

Joe
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 06:09 PM
  #7  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
I think your acutuator is screwed.

I thought it was the actuator as well, but at the Houston meet a few days ago, we tested it and it worked fine. Who knows, with the Acura build quality it might have screwed up since then.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2002 | 11:38 PM
  #8  
StypeCL's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 748
Likes: 4
From: Il
You were floorin' right!!!!!!!
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 12:38 AM
  #9  
darrinb's Avatar
///M POWER
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 15,299
Likes: 1
From: West Bloomfield, MI
Maybe u mistaked the gt for a 03 cobra
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:35 AM
  #10  
jttoombs's Avatar
The Human Radar Detector
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC or NC Mountains
Yeah you definently don't know what your gonna get with a mustang. I hear you about loosing to some pos mustang thats bonoed and primered and then whipping up on some kid whos car sounds mean but isnt
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 11:24 AM
  #11  
keegeescltypes's Avatar
6th Gear
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
I feel your pain brother..

but once again thats why I might Be trading in my
01 Cl-types for something a little faster such as BMW M3 orlexus Sc 430, I cant stand to be taken by an american Mustang My god, whats wrong with the world.......:o :o
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 11:43 AM
  #12  
oce01acura32cl's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
From: la habra, ca
maybe it's a cobra. the 1997 cobra's are deadly...
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 01:53 PM
  #13  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
It very well could have been modded, or even an older Cobra....it just was making me wonder if my car was actually that slow. But I'll find out on Friday once I hit the track. I'll be happy as long as I can hit mid to upper 14's...
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2002 | 07:07 PM
  #14  
SiGGy's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 2
From: Lenexa, KS
HUH, ya I really want to know too since I mod'd my car. But it's friggin in the 90's here! Mabye I'll go up to KCIR tonight... hmm...

Anyone ran in 90 degree weather?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 02:30 PM
  #15  
Accord-R's Avatar
Intermediate
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: The Boyz From NY
You should definetly be below a mid 14. I ran a 15.1 with my Accord V6 with the same mods. I am really interested to see what the AEM computer can do for the J-series engine, especially the automatics. The guys at Honda told me that the solenoid control for the automatic tranny shifts are so slow that if you could find away to get it to shift quicker you get substantial gains in time. So with the AEM you can increase shift speed and controll the shift point. I also know someone who did a stand alone on a V6 Accord and I was told they gained like 20 hp with it (although I didn't see the dyno). Someone should definetly try this AEM thing.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 05:29 PM
  #16  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Will the AEM computer work with the CL-S?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 06:24 PM
  #17  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Originally posted by cls'01
Will the AEM computer work with the CL-S?
sure does but its like 1200$
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 06:47 PM
  #18  
Accord-R's Avatar
Intermediate
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: The Boyz From NY
1200 bucks is not that bad! I got the COmptech Headers for my car when they first came out and they were like 1600! That AEM system is definetly the part to bring it all together.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 07:38 PM
  #19  
Mike's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,925
Likes: 12
From: location location
you might squeeze out some extra ponies w/the computer but it would be better to get some FI first and then use the comp.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2002 | 11:02 PM
  #20  
laser1180's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 482
Likes: 0
From: Houston(Sugarland), TX
Ok, not trying to be mean.... but you have a TypeS with mods, doesnt mean you are sure win on all cars... especially those older V8.... those aint kidding, even convertible CAN be fast.... i mean, think about it, how hard is it to make those car fly? Not very hard, just intake, header, exhaust, pulleys and cams, they could eat you up anytime they want.... so i dunno man, you lost to a V8 that is modded, what's soo suprise with that? just becuase you run low 14s? my friend has a 95 GT4.6, stock, he aint fast.... but $300 for headers, $350 for cams, $250 for some funny exhaust, and intake, and he is running low 13s.... so i dont see whats new with loosing to a modded V8
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2002 | 03:12 PM
  #21  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Originally posted by laser1180
Ok, not trying to be mean.... but you have a TypeS with mods, doesnt mean you are sure win on all cars... so i dunno man, you lost to a V8 that is modded, what's soo suprise with that? just becuase you run low 14s? so i dont see whats new with loosing to a modded V8
I agree with you man, it's just that I couldn't tell if the thing was modded or not...so my first impression was that my car was running slow since I couldn't hang with the old Convertable GT, and I was trying to find out what the usual outcome of at race like this might be. Also, I never said my car runs low 14's....i still need to take my car to the track...
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:17 PM
  #22  
GOT PSI?'s Avatar
It's Go-Time.
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 0
From: Canucktown, BC
The "older" body style of the Mustang you're referring to was prolly the 87-93 Fox based 5.0.

You under-estimated your opponent as he prolly wasn't stock. Parts for those 5.0's are a dime a dozen.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 12:13 AM
  #23  
quikcls's Avatar
WHO'S NEXT!!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 767
Likes: 0
From: MD
5.slow

whoever you raced was definitely modded.. i had one of those mustang's. stock 87-93 5.0 1/4 et. is 15.7-15.9. with gears, airflow, full exhaust, headers, chip, pulley's, intake, throttlebody(ported), shortshift..est. 1/4 et is is high 13's- low 14's. so if it were a stock 5o you would have burned him
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:51 AM
  #24  
roo97ss's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Newark, DE
dude you're one terrible driver if that was all you could manage out of a fox mustang.

the 5 spd GTs were high 14s and the 5 spd lxs (due to weight) were mid/upper 14 sec cars from the factory.

hell even car magazines had them consistently in the 14s. dollar for dollar a way better deal than the f bod, or for that fact anything out there until 93 when the lt1 made it to the f bods.

having owned 2 and seen many run at the track over the years, including even now, stock or exhaust only, 'tired' ie 80-100k cars running well in the 14s at low to mid 90s.

Joe
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 10:52 PM
  #25  
dbox's Avatar
whoXwanXsum
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,739
Likes: 0
From: HOUSTON
Re: I feel your pain brother..

Originally posted by keegeescltypes
but once again thats why I might Be trading in my
01 Cl-types for something a little faster such as BMW M3 orlexus Sc 430, I cant stand to be taken by an american Mustang My god, whats wrong with the world.......:o :o
i have no mods and beat a sc430, they are NOT fast. we raced from everylight for about 10 miles and he lost everytime
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2002 | 03:52 PM
  #26  
Paul's Avatar
...
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
From: NJ
i think u ran a cobra.... those things are fasttttt
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2002 | 04:57 PM
  #27  
cls'01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Thanks for the replies guys! It's good to know that the older Mustang's are fast and it's not just my car. I was going to take my car to the track this past weekend, but the flooding down here kinda messed things up . Hopefully sometime this week I'll be able to make it to the track .
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2002 | 10:46 PM
  #28  
NSX-R's Avatar
Cruisin'
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Bothell, WA
dude i think you got took by a debadged cobra or something. i raced my friend who has a S2K and i hanged pretty good with just an injen CAI against a stock S2K. he beet me by probably a car length?? and i know that a s2k can hang or beat a regular GT so that mustang was problably modded or a debagded cobra or something.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
acuratl26
2G TL (1999-2003)
24
Apr 23, 2020 07:30 PM
ttimberlak443
3G TL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
21
Oct 22, 2016 10:23 PM
hashbrown
4G TL (2009-2014)
2
Sep 29, 2015 12:13 PM
Froid
2G RDX (2013-2018)
3
Sep 27, 2015 06:16 PM
Brandle34
2G TL Problems & Fixes
4
Sep 23, 2015 07:20 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.