03CLSMT

I have a 3" Aem CAI right now... but I see a bunch of people with similar mods as me running 4" intakes...

Orr I was thinking if this would work... making 3/4ths of the piping 4" and then funnel it down to a 3" about 1/4 of the way from the TB .... similar to the AEM V2 design awhile back...

I guess it would speed up the velocity of the air when it would be funneled down to 3" while collecting more air in the 4" piping below.

Let me know your thoughts and opinions please.

Thank you

Chase

cleptosis

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do it or get a p2r one without any adjustment from the computer theres only so much power you can actually make before the size of the intake tubing doesnt matter more the tb, plenums and runners.

njlakeshoreg

does P2R still make the 4"????

poisx7

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i dont think so.
but i think there was a thread some where about fabricating some if they gathered enuff interest.....

03CLSMT

Ok so i did what I said at first made 3" from tb ~ 7-8" and a 4" diameter 90* bend measuring about 12 " .... currently running w out a filter (not daily driving) but I can HONESTLY, and i rarely ever feel anything on butt dynos but i honestly feel a stronger pull ESPECIALLY in 3rd gear for some reason it seems like it screams around 6K


It could be in my head but i was kinda expecting maybe a loss in performance so i had that mentality going on the first couple drives but it just opens up on the highway for sure.

please weigh in.... CIVICDRVR/Sonnick/1foxbody want your opinions please ( no disrespect to other knowledgeable people i didn't mention i just know these dude know their stuff that's all)

civicdrivr

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Put a filter on there. They restrict air a bit so you'll feel more real world power with it on.

That said, these engines love to breath. What are your mods?

WHEEELMAN

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the guys over on V-6-P with the 7th gen accords have made their own 4 inch CAI. It yielded a lil more HP and TQ than the AEM V2 across the entire RPM band.

Civicdrivr is correct. J series loves to breath

03CLSMT

Thanks guys,

MODS:

this current intake

p2r TB spacer

DIY ported(a bit, didn't use micrometer) & poshied TB

UR pullies (all)

XS headers

3" single exhaust w one slight bend. no mid muffler or CAT just two 3" vibrant resonators in place for each of those to quiet the raspy sound a bit.

civicdrivr

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The stock TB is going to bottle neck it, so your best bet is sticking with a smooth tapered 4"->3" pipe to speed up intake velocity, as you said.

Have you thought about running plenum spacers? Theyre massively cheaper then the P2R plenums and do the same thing.

03CLSMT

Thanks! What size TB would you recommend? I was thinking about getting the universal 80mm one from EBAY and getting a used CLS IM and porting&polishing it put it all together at the same time once its all finished. but plenum spacers would be a nice mod in the meanwhile... which ones would u recommend?

03CLSMT

PS WHEELMAN you have me addicted to v 6 p now lol

civicdrivr

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Im running an 80mm TB at the moment but its not enough for my build. For a 3.2l, it should be fine. You may lose a small amount of torque down low, but its more then made up up top.

PM Paul on v 6 p about the spacers. He makes them and there is a nice bump in power with them.

If I were given the option between the two, it would all come down to cost. The spacers will be less.

AnthraciteTypeS

I'm about to be in same boat with upgrading my tb and I was wondering what you guys with bigger tb's did about the iacv.. my tb didnt come with one so I was thinking about making a little plate for it

03CLSMT

what is pauls email do u have it. i cant find his pm on v 6 p

civicdrivr

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His name is NVA-AV6

Just check the 7G Performance mod section, most of the threads were started by him

03CLSMT

can someone just come out with ITBs please lol, that and AEM EMS(w my existing mods) would probably yeild us ~ 320 hp

civicdrivr

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You'll need cams to make the most of ITBs. In which case 320whp should be easily attainable (even without ITBs IMO).

AnthraciteTypeS

Anyone know about the iacv?

1foxbody

Maybe I should look into getting a bigger throttle body. There's nothing we can use from another model acura so it's a direct bolt on sensors and cable wise?

1foxbody

Please tell me how to make 320whp from a N/A 3.2 lol!!!!

civicdrivr

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Nothing larger.

Cams + tuning.

1foxbody

So what type of throttle body does people use then?

I thought we don't have any options as far as cams. I still have my aem fic but I haven't installed it. It sucks we can't advance the timing with it.

03CLSMT

isnt the p2r cl just bolt ons and aem ems? 302 whp

found it..its got a few custom things done like headers are custom 3" exh ported IM &tb https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/p2r-accord-dyno-stock-j32a2-engine-801500/

03CLSMT

uh ya i got a tip for ya, if u port ur tb make sure you cover the IAVC hole or metal shavings will get stuck in there and you'll have to take it off, soak it in gas/carb cleaner and take a air compressor to it to get the valve un-stuck...

LESSON LEARNED

1foxbody

I thought we can't run the aem series 2 ems since we have manual engine harnesses. So "IF" we wanted to run it we would have to convert our engine harness to automatic. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I wish aem would come out with something we can plug n play with instead of doing the dumb conversion!

http://www.aemelectronics.com/series...a-j-motor-1112

AnthraciteTypeS

I'm in the process of getting my new setup together. I am installing a no-name 80mm tb on a reworked j32 upper manifold. I've heard that I will need to use a tps from an infiniti q45 as the stock cl tps will not function correctly, can someone confirm and explain why?

Fox, as far as aem goes.. it's only compatible with an auto harness. It would be easier to just get your hands on one. You may have to mod it to meet the alternator, but i'm not sure. You wouldn't necessarily need to switch to an auto motor, but just swap the cam and crank sensors from an auto. The 6mt sensors aren't compatible with aem. I plan to use an auto harness and just swap the crank and cam sensors back to auto since I already have the auto motor that used to be in my car.

My other concern is, if running aem wouldn't we lose the gauge functions and interior controls (heat, a/c, accessories)? I daily this car and definitely can't have that]

edit: upon further research, i THINK the only thing we would lose is possibly the temp gauge and for sure the speedo...

AcuraSpook

Paul has straight told me the key to making more power on all j series is to get them air, nothing anyone has done or is doing (except civicdrvr's new setup ) is getting any j enough. Look at Nissan's setup for the VQ motors...

AcuraSpook

Oh and as far as iacv, anyone who has successfully gotten more air in that I have know has had to change tps sensors and restrictor plates for the iacv. My new setup is a stock tb bored out, but still needed new tps and iacv restrictor.

AnthraciteTypeS

And what kind of tps did you use?

AcuraSpook

Paul set it up, its part of the 3.7l he built for Eddie that is mine now :-)

Eddie gave me all the receipts though, it looks like a no brand name. It was an eBay auction that was buy it now for 50$, and simply says Acura CL TPS 1999-2003

AcuraSpook

Double post.

Sonnick

Definitely a good idea to get a bigger CAI, OP. I like your style Is it louder as well with the larger piping?

I'm probably going to do a 3.5 or 4" CAI on my setup at some point soon. Since I'm doing the 3.7 manifold/TB setup I'm going to need a larger intake considering the TB inlet will be larger than my piping lol.

What's this talk about new TPS sensors? I know I have to relocate my air temp sensor, but I'm not sure how?

Morgan....share your setup now or your nipples are mine!

civicdrivr

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AcuraSpook

Haha. You love teasing them.

civicdrivr

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