Total2f

Can anyone walk me through tuning with the Greddy EMB. I have the piggyback, plug and play harness, and wideband O2 sensor. The roadblock I'm running into now is how to datalog AFR v. RPM in order to change the AFR without just taking shots in the dark. Any solutions?

richardparker

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In for the knowledge ?

A418t81

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I have not used an emanage blue but I do have experience tuning piggybacks as well as flashing cars. Does the emanage have any kind of input that you can log? Many times they will have WB02 inputs. Now that I think about it, I did tune an emanage ultimate for a few minutes and the AFR was in the logs.

Total2f

There's no AFR in the logging of it unless I'm missing it somewhere. I just looked again and can't find anything.

A418t81

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No there wouldn't be without you adding the WB02 and the input and setting up the software to look for it/log it.

StreetKA

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i can send you base map for ctsc with hbp to begin with then you can start messing with it

Total2f

There's no option for it. Can you explain a bit more on how to go about doing that?

Street, thanks but that wouldn't do me much good I'm only NA.

Total2f

Alright I think I may have found what I need. . .

Greddy Emanage A/F Sensor Harness PN 15900912

I'll have to contact Greddy and see if this will work with the Emanage Blue it says it's for the Ultimate but I'm hoping. . .

cleptosis

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Any word might be using this to my friend does tuning let's see what he does

Total2f

My email to Greddy.
Tech,
I'm looking at the Greddy Emanage A/F Sensor Harness PN 15900912 and was wondering if it could be used with the Emanage Blue Piggyback unit? If so what other modifications in the software I would need if any? If not other suggestions that would allow me to log Air Fuel Ratio v. RPM without the use of a dyno? I'm at the stage now where I have the jumper settings on the unit setup correctly for my car, I have a Boomslang Plug and Play Harness, and the need support tool and software. I can't find any tuners I trust in my area. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Greddy's response.
Yes, this A/F harness will work on e-manage blue and with an external wideband O2 sensor. You will have to go into parameter settings, below the section where it says memo, you will have to change it from disconnect to A/F SENSOR(0-5V). Then select confirm and to be sure I would export data. You will need the support tool for these actions.

I'm excited now

A418t81

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There you go

Total2f

Harness is on its way!!!

cleptosis

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how much was it? i need one two now

Total2f

I think like $20 shipped or so. Its just two wires and a plug that will go into the BOOST port so nothing real complicated just search that part number.

Total2f

Pic in my build thread.

My Build Thread

rondog

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Tuning the CL with anything is a lost cause.

Total2f

Thanks for the comment buzz killington.

fuzzy02CLS

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He speaks the truth though. Many have tried to get it to work right. Many have failed. The Acura's ECU doesn't like it's settings messed with. It's just not program friendly.

typeR

and this is why i hink that clamping its sensors to be with in a range that is ideal would be the best way to get the ECU to do what we want ...


but this new J&R ecu megasquirt thing for the TL i would think would work

phee

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the J&R will work on the 2g's as well.

rondog

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Sorry for the letdown, but I tried with AEM FIC6 with two different tuners, I also read a lot about it, and to this day could not find anybody who actually posted a map or proof that it was actually done. I resorted to 6 lbs of boost with a FPR adjustment and a exhaust temp gauge to manually monitor the readouts. Also, keep your eye on the sideband O2 sensor and you should be good. I know I have been for the last 2 years. To sacrifice the 10-15 hp lost without a emanate or FIC tune is well worth the peace of mind and reliability.

My tunes worked for 1 drive cycle, the car felt like an animal, but in the next 2 days, in the morning, the car drove like it was possessed with lights all over the dash and sputtering.

gnuts

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but you haven't tried with the emanage blue right? I'm sure it's lacking in features compared to newer tuning devices like the FIC, but it has been proven to work. Allout has been running the HBP with emanage blue for years.

Total2f

There aren't many tuners around that know what there doing when it comes to our cars it seems. I've been to and talked with many tuners who didn't have a clue, with the exception of Anthony Verma at AVS. But he charges like $600 for a tune. One guy told me that the J32 was the exact same engine as a J30. This is why I'm doing it myself. Seeing that there is no plug and play harness for the FIC your problem was probably in the installation of your unit rondog. The Boomslang harness has been proven to work with the 6-Speed CL. I'll post maps/screen captures if you need to see it to believe that it works. Keep in mind it will probably take a few months with my school schedule.

p.diddy

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im just wondering if its works so well for him why is it that no one else is tuned with it?

StreetKA

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Wrong tuner ?

brian6speed

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When you say will work with 2g do you mean all or will it be like the aem ems that only works with auto motors with manual trannies?

gnuts

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Just from observation, when 6speed CL's post their story on trying to tune, it seems to me they usually go with a newer tuning device since the e-blue is older and seems to be pretty basic. Plus a tuner is probably going to say "why use the e-blue; use the FIC it's way better."

From what i've read, things like the FIC were designed around the auto CL sensors? and when 6speeders go to use them, things go wrong.

I've read a few threads on people failing to tune with certain devices, but not the emanage blue.

Total2f

Pretty much all the piggybacks and stand alone ecus are made for the auto wiring harness. For a six speed there are only a few options the EMB is the cheapest and has been proven. Yeah you can only change air fuel but for me that's all I need I just want the car to run consistently and pick up a few hp in the process.

richardparker

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Have you had anytime to try to mess with your tunning ?

Total2f

Finally got sick of staring at the tuning stuff in my room and wired up the A/F harness to the wideband. I plugged everything in and made sure it worked. I'm going to start messing around with the software more tomorrow hopefully and get it setup to record A/F v. RPM

gnuts

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Bout time! Not like you have too study. Jk......I wanna see this work.

Total2f

Yeah Mechanical Engineering is pretty easy lol. Gonna clear the map in the EMB tonight and see if it will run. Theoretically it should because the unit just adjusts the signal to the ecu. I had an older version of the support software so I upgraded that last night to the most current (v 1.49)

civicdrivr

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How did it go?

Total2f

Nothing to report I have a shit ton of homework to do and I had to work all day today. I'm hoping to get some time one night this week to fool around with it. If not I will defiantly do it Friday and Sat. Cars & Coffee this Sat. so even more motivation to work on my car!

Total2f

Success!!! Had some issues when I updated to the newest version of the software for the support tool (v1.49) but I got it sorted out. The piggyback is hooked up, wideband is logging correctly as well as rpm, and the car is running normally. Now its just a matter of getting some pointers and doing a bit more reading up on adjustments. Then I just need a friend and a clear stretch of highway!!

gnuts

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good to hear. are the software updates free?

Total2f

Yeah it is just go to Greddy's website

GReddy Emanage Tech Support

Some of the stuff is in Japanese so you'll have to double check in the software to make sure everything went okay.

AnthraciteTypeS

Gl man I hope you get it running right!

Total2f

It's running normal now with everything hooked up. Just playing with the data logging features now to get a good graph so I can start pulling fuel. The car is running really rich in to the 10s when I'm full throttle. If that doesn't mean anything to you it should be around 12.8 or 13 afr for an NA car. . .

gnuts

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updates?