Scooter

guess having a race meet here ain't such a good idea after all


http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...threadid=77620

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Doh!! Guess the guy wasn't expecting the other guy to brake so hard into that corner. Nice clip!

Scooter

nice leapfrog

Scrib

Oooops

joeshmoe

It actually look like that guy started braking before the guy he jump over.

eclipse23

That's because Limerock is a real racetrack. I know one of the instructors up there and it is recommended you take many classes to avoid problems. It is also recommended you use cars that can defty run that racetrack. I don't think cone autocrossing qualifies as the skills needed to do high speed turns and esp. when you have company on the track. I'd never take my CLS to limerock the idea of racing in an unbalanced near luxo sports car does not make sense to me. Maybe one day if I have a porsche or M3, or other trackable car I'd consider it.

Maximized

A RSX or CL-S is suitable for the track. Thats why I am a little cautious about trying Road America....

EDIT: I just watched the vid agian because it was fuzzy the first time and I was under the impression the yellow porsche was a RSX It looked like a Porsche Club Event definetly and i retract my statement about not deserving to drive on the track. The yellow car should of turned in harder though.

eclipse23

I'll take the word of the President of the Porsche club of NJ and the instructors word over yours. The CLS is no dog but it's not a track star and I don't believe in taking cars not built to truly be on racetracks, on racetracks.

GreenMonster

Ouch!! Don't know if that was from a club race or drivers education event, but that must have left a few dents/scratches

Most weekend warriors don't have track insurance, 'cause it can be quite expensive. Some insurance companies won't cover damages in a timed event (i.e. club racing), but some will cover stuff caused in drivers ed.

Here's Jack Olsen's BB1 (black beauty) after it's crash on Turn 9 at Laguna Seca :



More details of Jack's crash (including a video) can be found here:

http://bender.annenberg.edu/pelican/..._11-10-02.html

GreenMonster

Huh?? From the looks of the video, it was probably a PCA event, so the drivers had to pass drivers ed. to race in a club race, or it was a drivers ed. event where they were "practicing" as you call it.

All drivers are aware of the risks involved at track events, and the video in the original post looks to be a relatively minor "bump" It's racing, and shit happens.

Maximized

Those guys probably have a lot of experience, but for the average person CL-S's are fine. The reason being that for a beginner you dont want a real fast car, you want to focus on braking and taking a proper line. If you take a Porsche to a tight course with no track experience, you are asking for trouble. BTW....Porsches arent that fast at the track.

Scooter

i would agree with u if it's a small autox course, but Limerock is neither small nor is it autox

KCPreki11

don't think a z06 would take it?

Maximized

I was making my judgement on what I saw personally at Gingerman which is 1.88 miles long(IIRC). My friend raced a 996 TT manual in his 02' Z06 (running PF 01 Pads and Goodyear slicks and passed it very easily. The guy driving the Porshce had 28 years of SCCA racing experience BTW.

If I was going to buy a track car theres no doubt in my mind I would want a Z06 or possibly build my own.

GreenMonster

LOL. a 30 year old porsche 911 tied w/ a 1991 NSX in the 2003 Open track challenge in the T2 class.

http://www.opentrackchallenge.com/re...Standings.html

But yeah, I'll agree with you that 130- 140mph (top speed on the straights at some tracks) isn't that fast

Maximized

What modifications did that Porshce have?

GreenMonster

A bunch of suspension mods and a NA 250hp 3.6 motor

The porsche is a street driven race car (leather interior, full air conditioning system, cupholders, etc, etc). It's prepped for race (flares for wider tires, cage, fire supression, etc), but is also run on the street.

More importantly, the NSX was a full race prepped car, with a professional driver. The 911 was driven by "regular" guys.

The Z06 is another car (other then a 911), that I'd also consider for a track/street car. I like vettes too, but I wouldn't underestimate a 911 on certain tracks (especially w/ short straights). Early C5 prices have started to drop to the low/mid $20's, so a used early C5 is starting to look interesting to me. It'll be awhile before the Z06's come down to that price range.

Here's an interesting link for ya' :

Porsche Visit 3.0 to National Corvette Museum

moforose3.0

that was pretty crazy

blackmagiCL_S

I was just at Lime Rock last Friday for a Skip Barber class and there was a Porche and BMW meet going on the whole time I was there. Skip Barber has it's own area to play in (skid pad, autocross, etc). The classroom looks out over the real race track and there was a nice Porche that wiped out the Friday I was there coming down the main hill torward the nice straight away seen in the video before that turn (Big Bend I think they called it). I didn't see the crash but I saw what was left of the car towed away. It was messy but the guy driving was okay. I bet that there are a lot of accidents on that track.