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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 07:35 PM
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rim and tire experts..advice please

I can get a deal on these 19x8 rims, but the guy doesn't know the offset. They were on a 99 Accord Coupe that was lowered 2 inches and he said there was no rubbing. With this in mind, is it a good cance that they'll fit a cl-s without any rubbing? Thanks for any help.

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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 07:36 PM
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Oh they come with 235/xx/19's
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by langjae:
<STRONG>Oh they come with 235/xx/19's</STRONG>
Well, your are running 18x8.5s now...

blxmjx is running 19x8s with 51+ offset and 235/35-19 tires (I think their Nitto 555s).

He says he never rubs.

Do you rub with your 18x8.5s and what offset are those and just how much are you lowered (or do you plan to get even lower)?
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 07:49 PM
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Your offset better be 48 or higher or else you will hit rear fender lip when hard cornering. I just changed my wheels due to incorrect offset. no pics of the new ones yet but very classy compared to what was on perevious :p
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by BBsAcuraRacing:
<STRONG>Your offset better be 48 or higher or else you will hit rear fender lip when hard cornering. I just changed my wheels due to incorrect offset. no pics of the new ones yet but very classy compared to what was on perevious :p</STRONG>

I just talked to someone who said that anything in an 8" wide wheel with an offset greater than +48 in front with a 235 will cause the FRONT to rub...

They are running 225s in front and said that the 235 would rub on the inside in front -- they have 17x8 +48 offset wheels!

Can you say stuck between a rock and a hard place...

[ 08-03-2001: Message edited by: EricL ]
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by EricL:
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I just talked to someone who said that anything in an 8" wide wheel with an offset greater than +48 in front with a 235 will cause the FRONT to rub...
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I had those Zenetti's [before they BROKE]
They were 18X8.5's w/+51 offset - NEVER RUBBED!!! And I cornered as hard as you could! - Even had the trunk full of samples - ...oh, NOT LOWERED!!!
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ogolden1:
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NEVER RUBBED!!! ...oh, NOT LOWERED!!!</STRONG>
that's probably why...
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ogolden1:
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I had those Zenetti's [before they BROKE]
They were 18X8.5's w/+51 offset - NEVER RUBBED!!! And I cornered as hard as you could! - Even had the trunk full of samples - ...oh, NOT LOWERED!!!</STRONG>

Well, 1) you get what you pay for (sorry, it is true most of the time) 2) I have been trying like crazy to find a sure-fire setup that works with a good lowering and handles 235/45 tires. (BTW – I love the SSRs and their very low rotational inertia – more pick-up from them than the bloody headers and AEM)

So, I'll tell what I've been told (no NAMES)

1. A member with the 17x8 +48 SSRs with Comptech lowering springs rubs on the inside tire well -- he won’t give me any more info. So, I don't know the exact rubbing details (how much, and where inside of the front wheel well)

2. A guy with the 17x8 +48 SSRs with 225/45 tires is lowered with Comptech’s and doesn't rub (front or rear). He said that there was so little room on the inside portion in the front, that he would NOT want a higher offset wheel.

3. Blxmjx is running 19x8s with +51 offset and 235/35-19 tires and is lowered (sorry, forgot the brand of lowering springs) and says he NEVER rubs.

So, if you have the answer, by all means please enlighten us, because I have the SSRs and I'm not lowered and never rub. However, I would be very careful about what springs I would get if I was thinking about lowering, and I the information seems to change depending on the phase of the moon...

I do think that a 17x7.5 +52 offset with the 235/45-17 would probably work – perhaps some proof will be coming soon…
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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 02:08 AM
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Hey Eric..thanks for all the help. I'm on 18x8.5 with a 55 offset and no rubbing whatsoever. NO tire marks etc, even at hard cornering, but I never have more than me (150lbs) and my gf (105 lbs.) in the car.

The question is though, this guy that I want to buy from, doesn't know the offset of his rims. But I want his rims, BADLY!! They are 19x8 with unknown offset... 235/35/19 tires..

So I am trying to conclude that he has an accord coupe 99 that is lowered 2 inches with Sportlines or Prokit, I believe. He doesnt rub . So with this in mind, since Accords are so similar to us, since he doesnt rub, will that mean I won't rub either?

So his offset is the X factor and since it is unknown, can it be determined that I won't rub being that he doesnt rub on his accord??

just asking if "A=B and B=C" then A=C too?? know what I mean??
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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 04:51 AM
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well, if you tell us the wheel then maybe we can work backwards? er, figure out what offsets are available for these wheels. have the guy remove the wheel to see what's stamped/written/engraved on the back of the wheel. otherwise you can calculate it...measure from the back lip to the back of the wheel face, subtract half of the rim width, and multiply by 25.4mm to get the APPROXIMATE offset value.
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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Pastrami:
<STRONG>well, if you tell us the wheel then maybe we can work backwards? er, figure out what offsets are available for these wheels. have the guy remove the wheel to see what's stamped/written/engraved on the back of the wheel. otherwise you can calculate it...measure from the back lip to the back of the wheel face, subtract half of the rim width, and multiply by 25.4mm to get the APPROXIMATE offset value.</STRONG>
Oh sorry..thought I named the wheel already. They are Dazz Matiz...what do these normally come in. I did a search here and at acura-tl and read that these don't come in lower than 48. I'm just trying ot verify this. So I can measure it? Back of the lip to the back of the wheel face? Is that back lip to font lip or back lip to the back of one of the spokes or something? Thanks dude.
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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by langjae:
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Oh sorry..thought I named the wheel already. They are Dazz Matiz...what do these normally come in. I did a search here and at acura-tl and read that these don't come in lower than 48. I'm just trying ot verify this. So I can measure it? Back of the lip to the back of the wheel face? Is that back lip to font lip or back lip to the back of one of the spokes or something? Thanks dude.</STRONG>
If its any help, my Matiz came off of a new Prelude and fit perfectly. 19x8 +48
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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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There is a very high likelihood that they will fit w/out any problems. The 99 Accord V6 utilizes an offset that is very close to ours. Is there any way that you can test fit them first though?

I have had no rubbing whatsoever. I've loaded the car with 4 adults and a trunk load of bottled water with Zero rubbing. I've had a couple of members take note of my tires that had zero rub marks. I've actually tried to make it rub via hard cornerning, still no rubbing.

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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 08:38 PM
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langjae, if you do get these wheels, can I buy your Decoltes for my CL?????

[dead serious]
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 01:55 AM
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i agree that the 6g accords are very much like the cl's and tl's, so they should work well if that guy did not have any problems. for 8" wide rims, you want at least a 50ish offset to as little rubbing as possible. 45 offset is the bare minimum you should get and this will more than likely rub without fender mods. the tire should be 235/35/19.

to calculate offset, you lay the wheel on the ground wheel face down (protected of course! ) so you are staring at the inside/back of the wheel. you then measure down from the rear lip to the hub part (this lays against the rotor on the car).

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by pimp:
<STRONG>langjae, if you do get these wheels, can I buy your Decoltes for my CL?????

[dead serious]</STRONG>

Hmmm..I'd had offers already even before I was thinking about 19's. You know how much they cost pimp, so how much are you willing to take them for? Decoltes on a Legend and CL would be crazy. Thanks for all the help..I think I'm going to try to go with them.

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 09:43 AM
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I run 235/45/17 with 17x8 50 offset no rubbing and will not when lowered. The wheels in my pics are old wheels. They are 17x7with 40 offset and rears did rub under hard cornereing with out springs.
BTW The new ones are phuckin pheneomenal and add a lot of class-- 10 spoke AT Italia's :p :p
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by langjae:
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Hmmm..I'd had offers already even before I was thinking about 19's. You know how much they cost pimp, so how much are you willing to take them for? Decoltes on a Legend and CL would be crazy. Thanks for all the help..I think I'm going to try to go with them.

-j</STRONG>
Yup, I know what these puppies run for alright.
Lemme know the price you're looking for.
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Old Aug 7, 2001 | 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by BBsAcuraRacing:
<STRONG>I run 235/45/17 with 17x8 50 offset no rubbing and will not when lowered. The wheels in my pics are old wheels. They are 17x7with 40 offset and rears did rub under hard cornereing with out springs.
BTW The new ones are phuckin pheneomenal and add a lot of class-- 10 spoke AT Italia's :p :p </STRONG>

Let me know what springs you run when you lower and if you still don't rub with a passenger or two in the car.

I'm starting to wonder if I was given some BS about the front rubbing now...
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