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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 01:41 AM
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"rice" is so overused

I know this topic has been discussed millions of times, but it always seems to pop up with a stupid thread. This is regarding responsed to the Carbon Fiber hoods thread.

"Rice" is what? Pretty much putting anything on your vehicle that doesn't enhance performance whatsoever aside from a TRUE race car or mods that enhance look/style of a TRUE show car.

Not to flame anyone, but ever felt the weight of a stock integra or any honda for that matter?? They're HEAVY! and a CF hood is about a third of the weight.

You people use the term towards anything and in actuality you dont know shit and just call it rice. It's getting to a point where sooner or later you'll see:

You have exhaust? RICE!!
YOu have an intake? RICE!!
Springs?? RICE!!

I've seen people call slammed cars with coilovers rice. C'mon people..know the deal. Know the vocab cuz it just makes you look dumb. Sorry had to say it.

Many believe our CL's arent true race cars and they sure as hell aren't truly luxury. What it is is truly confused. No one knows what to do with it, but its a happy medium. So our car will never be a true sports..so slap on those springs that drop 3 hairs lower and call it rice if you think shit like cf hoods are rice.

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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by langjae:
<STRONG>This is regarding responsed to the Carbon Fiber hoods thread.

"Rice" is what? Pretty much putting anything on your vehicle that doesn't enhance performance whatsoever aside from a TRUE race car or mods that enhance look/style of a TRUE show car.
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Yeah, having a CF hood really makes a ton of difference driving around town.
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Not to flame anyone, but ever felt the weight of a stock integra or any honda for that matter?? They're HEAVY! and a CF hood is about a third of the weight.

You people use the term towards anything and in actuality you dont know shit and just call it rice. It's getting to a point where sooner or later you'll see:

You have exhaust? RICE!!
YOu have an intake? RICE!!
Springs?? RICE!!

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Intake on a DL Civic is Rice. Exhaust on a DL Civic is Rice. Springs on a DL Civic is Rice ... See the pattern? =)

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I've seen people call slammed cars with coilovers rice. C'mon people..know the deal. Know the vocab cuz it just makes you look dumb. Sorry had to say it.

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Coilovers on a car that costs $12k is fucking idiotic.

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Many believe our CL's arent true race cars and they sure as hell aren't truly luxury. What it is is truly confused. No one knows what to do with it, but its a happy medium. So our car will never be a true sports..so slap on those springs that drop 3 hairs lower and call it rice if you think shit like cf hoods are rice.

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After reading these boards for months and driving one today, I can say for the first time that this car is no where near a sports car. It's an awesome car, but it's not a sports car. A S2000 is a sports car.

Rice = Pointless expenditures of money on cars that defies logic.
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 01:58 AM
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Rice is having a four door civic with a four inch pipe. Rice is putting those shitty looking white lights all over the back of your civic/integra. Rice is the 92 Accord with dual exhaust pipes that sound like a leaf blower. There is a line between class & performance and rice You can tell when that line has been crossed.

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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:04 AM
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Valid point PGATOUR!
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:09 AM
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i agree that the term rice is overused. It is just like almost any demeaning term...people dont really know what its origin was and misuse the word whenever they dont like somthing. I believe rice means when people put money into a shitty car on stupid stuff and think they are bad ass and own the road.

Case in point. Today i was on the road and sum punk in an old integra with an exhaust and sum taky off colored body panels went flyin down the road at 90mph. To me thats what rice was meant to describe...arogance among poeple who are ignorant with cars. These cars are mostly japaneese cars...hense rice. It is a sorta racial term, but it attacks cars and not a ceratin group of poeple...only the people that drive the cars.

I hope i help....its late so forgive me for incomplete thoughts.

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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:10 AM
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no i saw the "ricest" civic ever the other day. There was either a DX,LX or EX civic(not even a SI)and it said Type R. and had japenese writing on the hood.(stock pipe)(so it was like the size of a quarter) i said to the guy you get that from japan cause i never knew they made type R civics for america he's like it's a type R i was like dude they don't. the fastest civic you can get from the factory is the SI man. and there's no way that's a SI with a quarter size pipe on that. he's like that's my back up pipe. I said yeah sure and left
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:30 AM
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I know this topic has been discussed millions of times, but it always seems to pop up with a stupid thread. This is regarding responsed to the Carbon Fiber hoods thread.

The term RICE gotta to be used in this case because why would any body in their right mind wanted to turn their $30k lux ride into a $3k rice out Civic?
If you have a problem w/ that so go
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:30 AM
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lol, "now he sounds like a ricer"
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 02:34 AM
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I totaly agree! The term has been "overly used", if you will. However, i can't help but laugh @ the dudes in my town that try racing me in a MAzda 323 or some toyo camry! with TRD all over like if it's actually fast!? Yeah, but a CF hood does cut down the cars weight, big time.
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 03:36 AM
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I know this topic has been discussed millions of times, but it always seems to pop up with a stupid thread. This is regarding responsed to the Carbon Fiber hoods thread.

The term RICE gotta to be used in this case because why would any body in their right mind wanted to turn their $30k lux ride into a $3k rice out Civic?
If you have a problem w/ that so go
F**K yourself bandejo...
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now that's rice and beans...

well lemme see..AMG makes shit to "rice out" MB's. Who wants to turn an MB into a rice rocket. People that do that must be BANDEJOS...yeah ok dick
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 03:48 AM
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Oh I forgot..you wouldn't know anything about weight reduction. All you know about reducing weight is when your fat ass mother steps out of the car to walk you to daycamp.

Now if you got a prob with that then go buy yourself a CF hood and shove it up your TOPE. (That's ass for those of you who dont know. I had to look it up so he could understand..i'm only a white rice person myself)
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 03:53 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dancl01:
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I know this topic has been discussed millions of times, but it always seems to pop up with a stupid thread. This is regarding responsed to the Carbon Fiber hoods thread.

The term RICE gotta to be used in this case because why would any body in their right mind wanted to turn their $30k lux ride into a $3k rice out Civic?
If you have a problem w/ that so go
F**K yourself bandejo...
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sup bandejo,
I got a 10k system is that rice too :p and I bet I'll still spank your ass with my 4-DOOR TL-S
Wait do you say you have Polarg M6. Don't you think that's rice too :p
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 03:59 AM
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so much for trying to keep it clean and friendly......"Cant we all just get along?"
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 04:12 AM
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 04:17 AM
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who said Carbon Fiber hood is rice? HAHAHAHA
FUnny People always say Funny shit..

a civic with 4 inch exhaust ISNT RICE if the civic has a nice bodykit and other stuff .. u will know what i mean if u live in So CAL... Because u see those kind of car EVERYDAY, everywhere and i perosnally i have a dual 4.5 Inch Greddy.. and NO ONE ever said my exhausts are rice. JUST GET USE 2 IT

I m not against using the term RICE but u have to use it correctly. I will call a civic rice if the car is BONE STOCK with 4 exhausts in the back. If an integra with a fart pipe then i wll say IT SOUNDS NASTY and i wont say it s rice....
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 05:08 AM
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I eat rice everyday
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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We all know rice when we see it.
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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Well I guess I may as well offer my two cents worth here.It seems to me that whenever there is something new and in this case that something being tricked out small cars there will always be a group of dissenters that will insist that it is bad.I admit my little Civic is no racecar but I knew that going into the deal.However it rides like it's on rails on my expensive coilovers.I spent the money and got different tailights because I like the style and do not have the financial moxie to buy a car like a Lexus that has them factory installed.I put in a big audio system just because I like it.Maybe I did waste money on my "cheap" econobox but I enjoy the car it's fun to drive now and a carbon fiber hood will definitely look good when I have the cash.So is this car "rice"? To some self appointed judges of what is good and bad it probably is and I can live with that.Back in the sixties it was cool to soup up cars like Road Runners,Mustangs,GTO's etc,these cars were not exactly megabuck mobiles but people spent money on them anyway for the simple reason that it is fun and it buys you admittance to the car club.This hobby of tricking out our cars is supposed to be fun and generally it is.Dumping on some other fellas ride because he lacks the upfront cash to buy a high dollar car and instead has to take a less expensive car and work his way up only demonstrates how intolerant some people are of a simple thing that makes this country great.It's called freedom of choice.Maybe my cars are "rice" but you know what I like my "rice" cars and my "rice" bike and if you don't well I am sure I'll get along just fine without your no doubt extremely important approval.Jens
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Old Jul 22, 2001 | 09:37 PM
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If you overly mod a german car i think we should now refer to it as "Krauted"
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Originally posted by oonowindoo:
<STRONG>who said Carbon Fiber hood is rice? HAHAHAHA
FUnny People always say Funny shit..</STRONG>
oonowindoo, I have to let you in on some facts on this matter. The example I'm going to use is from the IS300 world, since I'm more familiar with that.

A stock IS300 hood weighs 45 pounds. Somebody weighed this, and I can confirm from my own estimates.

A carbon fiber hood weighs about 1/3 of the stock hood, which is 17 pounds. Somebody also weighed this one. This makes for a 28 pound savings for the $500-600 that a person might pay for it, not including the labor for installation, which admittedly is not too difficult.

An IS300 is on average a realistic 3350 pounds w/o driver. With me in the car, the whole running assembly weighs around 3515 pounds. A 28 pound reduction in weight is a 0.8% reduction in weight of the entire running assembly. Being that a 0.8% reduction in total weight equates to a 0.8% addition to effective horsepower if weight stayed the same, a $500-600 hood equates to a "performance" mod that gives me 1.72 horsepower at the crank.

I think I can get better than 1.72hp with a $50 drop-in air filter. Heck, an oil change causes a greater fluctuation than that.

Needless to say, handling inprovements from a 0.8% reduction in mass is also negligible, regardless of which end it came from. Dropping $15 on a good tire pressure guage and fine tuning pressure via experimentation will yield much better results.

IMHO, the only instance in which fibre hoods are justifiable is in a completely race-stripped car, or for a race car that needs to conform to a certain set of rules. Otherwise it's a just a lot of money to produce a false sense (and to show others that false sense) of performance improvement.

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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 01:34 AM
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IMHO, the only instance in which fibre hoods are justifiable is in a completely race-stripped car, or for a race car that needs to conform to a certain set of rules. Otherwise it's a just a lot of money to produce a false sense (and to show others that false sense) of performance improvement.

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That's exactly what I mean...totally agree Unless you are a TRUE race car then, in many people's standards EVERYTHING is rice. But instead they only call stuff they don't like RICE.

But if your out to reduce weight and improve your quarter mile times, any little bit helps and you have to start somewhere. Hood =25 lbs, spare tire = 20lbs, half tank of gas = 50+. So there you have almost 100lbs. it's gotta start somewhere.

ButI say about 90% of the cars on the street that have aftermarket stuff aren't raceworthy. So dumb people will just label that rice.

So I'm running on a half tank of gas to reduce weight..oh man that's rice at its worst!
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 01:34 AM
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Maybe some people, like those who are interested in the "JDM" style, like the way it looks you fuck...
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Oh, in addition, coilovers on just about any car (especially the light, great handling Civics and Integra) are most certainly a justifiable thing when the person understands why he's/she's paying the premium for adjustability (it has nothing to do with the ability to drop it into the weeds) and who's driving ability/habits demand no less than absolute control.

(That one's for you, Jens, although I'm purposefully refraining from commenting on the tail-lights. )

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<STRONG>If you overly mod a german car i think we should now refer to it as "Krauted"</STRONG>
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ahh fuck... here we go again with that fuckin term...
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Originally posted by DtEW:
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oonowindoo, I have to let you in on some facts on this matter. The example I'm going to use is from the IS300 world, since I'm more familiar with that.

A stock IS300 hood weighs 45 pounds. Somebody weighed this, and I can confirm from my own estimates.

A carbon fiber hood weighs about 1/3 of the stock hood, which is 17 pounds. Somebody also weighed this one. This makes for a 28 pound savings for the $500-600 that a person might pay for it, not including the labor for installation, which admittedly is not too difficult.

An IS300 is on average a realistic 3350 pounds w/o driver. With me in the car, the whole running assembly weighs around 3515 pounds. A 28 pound reduction in weight is a 0.8% reduction in weight of the entire running assembly. Being that a 0.8% reduction in total weight equates to a 0.8% addition to effective horsepower if weight stayed the same, a $500-600 hood equates to a "performance" mod that gives me 1.72 horsepower at the crank.

I think I can get better than 1.72hp with a $50 drop-in air filter. Heck, an oil change causes a greater fluctuation than that.

Needless to say, handling inprovements from a 0.8% reduction in mass is also negligible, regardless of which end it came from. Dropping $15 on a good tire pressure guage and fine tuning pressure via experimentation will yield much better results.

IMHO, the only instance in which fibre hoods are justifiable is in a completely race-stripped car, or for a race car that needs to conform to a certain set of rules. Otherwise it's a just a lot of money to produce a false sense (and to show others that false sense) of performance improvement.

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That s if u have a IS300... IF u have a delsol then it s not 1.75 HP anymore.. I never said everybody should get carbonfiber hood.. but if some ppl like the way it looks and love to buy it.. then Y the hell do ppl call them rice??
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 12:21 PM
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This topic has been beaten to death many, many times.... just let it go... rice is a perception. What I may think is rice someone else may really like. This topic is a useless topic and only sparks senseless debate. I'll leave it open for now, but once the personal attacks start again... it's gone....
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 12:42 PM
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Rice is any modification that makes a car "look fast" but doesn't actually make it faster. http://www.riceboypage.com states it the best! There IS no Civic Type R in the states. There IS no Integra Type R with 15-inch rims. There IS no Civic Type S. Putting a sticker on the side that says "honda powered" is a waste of time and money if you're driving a HONDA - DUH!
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Originally posted by oonowindoo:
<STRONG>who said Carbon Fiber hood is rice? HAHAHAHA
FUnny People always say Funny shit..

a civic with 4 inch exhaust ISNT RICE if the civic has a nice bodykit and other stuff .. u will know what i mean if u live in So CAL... Because u see those kind of car EVERYDAY, everywhere and i perosnally i have a dual 4.5 Inch Greddy.. and NO ONE ever said my exhausts are rice. JUST GET USE 2 IT

I m not against using the term RICE but u have to use it correctly. I will call a civic rice if the car is BONE STOCK with 4 exhausts in the back. If an integra with a fart pipe then i wll say IT SOUNDS NASTY and i wont say it s rice....</STRONG>
ROFLMFAOPIMPTASTIC!!!

You gotta be kidding me. What in the hell do you need a 4 1/2 in fartpipe for? Ever heard of back pressure? Seriously, despite the fact that you bastardize your car, what do you think that does for you?
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 01:05 PM
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<STRONG>Maybe my cars are "rice" but you know what I like my "rice" cars and my "rice" bike and if you don't well I am sure I'll get along just fine without your no doubt extremely important approval.Jens</STRONG>
Jens, I don't bust on people who do stuff to their cars that make them fast or handle great ... I just don't see why in the hell anyone needs a 4 1/2 exhaust or a huge assed wing ... How fast to people really go all the time? 80 mph? What kind of downforce is created at that speed? Obviously nothing more with 200hp than with 150hp, but people see the need to put wings on their car.

I'm all for making a car look better ... A stock Civic is dull. A ricemobile is ridiculous ... When I see a four-door Civic that looks like it competes in the British Touring Car championships I have to wonder what in the hell that driver was thinking.
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 11:39 PM
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ROFLMFAOPIMPTASTIC!!!

You gotta be kidding me. What in the hell do you need a 4 1/2 in fartpipe for? Ever heard of back pressure? Seriously, despite the fact that you bastardize your car, what do you think that does for you?</STRONG>
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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 11:43 PM
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Jens, I don't bust on people who do stuff to their cars that make them fast or handle great ... I just don't see why in the hell anyone needs a 4 1/2 exhaust or a huge assed wing ... How fast to people really go all the time? 80 mph? What kind of downforce is created at that speed? Obviously nothing more with 200hp than with 150hp, but people see the need to put wings on their car.

I'm all for making a car look better ... A stock Civic is dull. A ricemobile is ridiculous ... When I see a four-door Civic that looks like it competes in the British Touring Car championships I have to wonder what in the hell that driver was thinking.</STRONG>

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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 09:58 PM
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Good question,why bother fooling around with cars at all???? I mean really c'mon the speed limit around here is 65 MPH right??so how much horsepower do you need to tool around at that speed? But yet people buy cars that can easily triple that speed even if getting caught has serious implications.And if the car wont go a bazillion miles an hour they'll spend money like drunks sailors in a bar till they get the speed they want.Sure some people build cars solely for looks or whatever else tweaks their interest but hey this is a hobby and that self expression is part of it.Rice......I'd say enjoy it there are places where you do not have freedoms like this.I think it's great that there are so many people who out there who get a kick out of the hobby/sport.If I see a car that looks bad oh well maybe the person that owns it likes it and that is all that matters.Jens
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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 11:20 PM
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Who gives a shit what the guy/girl drives next to u. Unfortunately, some folks think adding a big ass whale tale & Flowmasters on a civic/hyundai/tercel is dope. If this is classified as rice, then so be it. Let's just worry about those TL-S that can go 0-60 in 6.1seconds!!
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 02:22 AM
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WOW. Jens said it best. Nice job.

Originally posted by Jens Heydel:
<STRONG>Well I guess I may as well offer my two cents worth here.It seems to me that whenever there is something new and in this case that something being tricked out small cars there will always be a group of dissenters that will insist that it is bad.I admit my little Civic is no racecar but I knew that going into the deal.However it rides like it's on rails on my expensive coilovers.I spent the money and got different tailights because I like the style and do not have the financial moxie to buy a car like a Lexus that has them factory installed.I put in a big audio system just because I like it.Maybe I did waste money on my "cheap" econobox but I enjoy the car it's fun to drive now and a carbon fiber hood will definitely look good when I have the cash.So is this car "rice"? To some self appointed judges of what is good and bad it probably is and I can live with that.Back in the sixties it was cool to soup up cars like Road Runners,Mustangs,GTO's etc,these cars were not exactly megabuck mobiles but people spent money on them anyway for the simple reason that it is fun and it buys you admittance to the car club.This hobby of tricking out our cars is supposed to be fun and generally it is.Dumping on some other fellas ride because he lacks the upfront cash to buy a high dollar car and instead has to take a less expensive car and work his way up only demonstrates how intolerant some people are of a simple thing that makes this country great.It's called freedom of choice.Maybe my cars are "rice" but you know what I like my "rice" cars and my "rice" bike and if you don't well I am sure I'll get along just fine without your no doubt extremely important approval.Jens</STRONG>
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