Cars are premiumed and over-priced up the butt these days.

Here are some realistic car prices taking into account performance, styling, and proper pricing so that the average person can actually afford one in his/her lifetime:

Some of these might be pretty close to their actual costs, while others are currently grossly over-priced and should be adjusted as follows.

(2001-2002 models)

Acura 3.2TL/CL Type S: $28k
Audi A4 Quattro 3.0L: $30k
Audi S4 $35k
Audi RS6 twin-turbo V8 (from that other thread where it says $74k): $55k
BMW M3 - $40k
BMW M5 - $55-60k
Chevy Corvette regular/Z06: $40k/$50k
Dodge Viper GTS: $65k
Honda Accord EX V6 (even once it bumps to 245hp): $22k
Nissan Maxima SE: $25k
Ford Mustang Cobra: $25k
Subaru Imprezza WRX: $22k (Grasp reality - it's a Corolla with a turbo, suspension, and AWD. Cute and useful, but small and cheap.)

Future cars:

Toyota Supra MkV* TwinTurbo: $35k
Nissan Skyline GT-R: $45k (if it has all the performance options like AWD, twinturbo, etc)
Subaru Imprezza WRX STi: $25k (It's a tweaked WRX, nothing more.)
Pontiac Grand Prix G-Force: $26k

*Utilizing the chasis and much of the body of the MkIV, as well as the 2JZ-GTE engine, this style of MkV would be very cost-effective to produce and could easily meet this price recommendation.



Feel free to add your own to the list. Certain cars like Porsche and Ferrari are supposedly hand-made, so that would have to be taken into account. Otherwise that 911 TwinTurbo would be at home right around $60k, and that 360 Modena around $90k.

 

civic (any of them) 13k: overpriced kia
rsx : 15k (civic with leather)
rsx-x : 16k (rsx with 40 useless horses and a whopping extra 1lb of torque, and missing the awd control of the wrx)
wrx: 22k (an s4 without a heavy ass)
sti: 30k (a wrx with badass seats, brembos, better suspension, HIDs)

 

I think RSX more like $18k and Type S for $20k is a little more realistic.

 

The Skyline does cost about 45k in Japan and at the price Nissan is still losing money producing it. As somebody stated before, its a halo car. Nissan is ending its production run in August of this year. If you look at the amount of technology that Nissan has squeezed into that thing its amazing that it can be bought for 45k.

 

I dunno, guys. This thread sounds more like "wishful thinking regarding the price I would pay to buy that car" instead of "realistic car prices".

I mean, just because I wouldn't buy a Cavalier for even $3000, does it mean that the Cavalier is only "realistically priced" at less than that amount? The Cavalier sells well enough at its current price.

Any car that sells in any decent quantity relative to its theoretical appeal is "realistically priced." If what the car is should appeal to a lot of people but isn't selling much relative to that theoretical appeal, then it's not "realistically priced".

 

I'm not claiming this is some science - it's all opinion. But it's realistic opinion, not "I WANTS A FERRARI FOR FIVE DOLLARS."



A $28k CL-S is still going to pay everyone's bills and make a profit, but it's not the extra $5k that's a bunch of hot air they tack onto the price.

Cars are no different than Nike tennis shoes or any other product when it comes to pricing. Car companies have realized this and have over-priced them accordingly.

 

Hmmm... I have three words for you, "Transmission Problems" forum...

 

Try looking at it this way:

The CL-S is a luxury and performance version of the 2door Honda Accord EX V6, IMHO. The Accord should be around $22k, so the luxury and performance of the Acura (as well as the nicer styling) are easily worth $6k.

 

I am telling you this for little reason because many of you may not understand it anyway or have means to do it either. As far as the new skyline you could feasibly get one for about $30,000, plus whatever import fees are. How you ask? Simple buy yen on forward market 45,000 yen or whatever the car cost with all the options you want. Buy it and pay it off in the foreign market, the Japanese economy has several problems, many of their venture investments are at a standstill producing no interest. Therefore expect a devaluation on the Yen in the near future, assuming FED and world bank don't lend them money..

 

$30,000 might be a little low, but you get the idea. Why do I have to over dramatize

 

It’s those "shoulds" that I wonder about...

What if someone had said, "hey, lets drop the sunroof and add a beefier transmission, etc", I wonder how many buyers -- at the CLS’ introduction -- would have been WOWED by having a BEEFED-UP transmission and no sunroof (I'm one of those people who could use the extra headroom and don't care about the sunroof.)

Interesting that there are a ton of new Japanese cars with "similar" performance (HP, handling, goodies, etc) and they are in the price range that we paid for our car. The "marketplace" does seem to adjust pricing based on supply, demand, and competition. The new G35 (with its new RWD platform) is "in the range" of the price we paid...

BTW -- I wish I could buy a 4-bedroom house at the beach for $500K, but....

BTW2 -- Perhaps someone will make a CLS with beef engine/trans and zero luxury features -- who knows...

 

Nevermind, this thread is obviously too complicated or difficult for you.

 

I shoped for each of these in December.
M3 was more like $47K-$50K depending on options.
M5 was more like $70K-$80K depending on color, miles, & location
The 2002 Cobra was $37K special order. None of the ford dealers had a 2002.

I wish your prices were right though. I'd be driving that M3

 

Starbucks Latte $2.85 should be $1.00
Rolex $10,000 should be $500
Olympics Opening night tix $985 should be $50

And on and on ...............

 

There is no 2002 Cobra. The 2003 Cobra will sticker for about 35-36, but it is a 390 hp roots blown DOHC.

 

You would have those prices if it wasn't for the UAW unions and if the warranty was cut down to 2 years - well maybe just cut out the unions and keep the warranty,