Raced a Solara - Rims question and gas question

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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 08:32 PM
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Raced a Solara - Rims question and gas question

I have 18" Vault Jade's in chrome and i can't find out what they weigh anywhere. I was wondering if any of you guys could help me. I was also curious what stock CL-S rims weigh. I know we have talked about this before but i am to lazy to do a search. The only reason i ask is because today i lined up with a Solara V6 and i knew he wanted to race. So the light changed and we both hit the gas, he got a real good jump but a suburban jumped right out in front of me. So we didn't get a chance. And i was just curious if the weight of my wheels would affect my car that much, cause I should beable to beat solara's, am i right? This guy might have had Manual, i don't know. But im really curious now. Another problem i might have had was i got a friend of mine to fill up my gas tank for me and he used 87 octane. So i had a full tank of 87, my chrome rims and it was humid as hell today. Any thoughts???

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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 09:40 PM
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ouch!!!!!!! heavy 18's and shitty gas....ugh. Our rims are like 25lbs and so i'm thinking chrome has got to be like 30lbs atleast.....plus that extra rolling distance.
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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 10:53 PM
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Hard to tell, but the rims are likely 5-10 lbs heavier than stock. You should probably still be able to take a stock Solara manual, but you're going to need as good or better reaction time to do it. Those rims definitely hurt you.
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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 11:57 PM
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Well, I think Solara is 5spd if he can have a jump on you, cuz the auto is really slow.... Don't forget, there are MANY Supercharged Solara out there too, it maybe one of those.....
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by laser1180:
<STRONG>Well, I think Solara is 5spd if he can have a jump on you, cuz the auto is really slow.... Don't forget, there are MANY Supercharged Solara out there too, it maybe one of those.....</STRONG>
i doubt there are that many supercharged solaras out there...those cars are more "old people's" cars than ours are!

but then again, you got geriatric people that shouldn't be driving anymore behind the wheels of brand new corvettes.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 02:15 AM
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Even if your r/t was off you should be able to take a manual Solara w/o sc with your current status.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 02:21 AM
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Arent Solarss in competition with Accord Coupes?
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by mrdeeno:
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i doubt there are that many supercharged solaras out there...those cars are more "old people's" cars than ours are!

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You serious?? I will see hundreds of CL's being driven by older people before I see one with a young driver behind the wheel..Well a little bit exaggerated..

Seriously though..I know that the solara is the same, but I think more elder people buy our cars rather then young. Just my opinion...
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 05:52 AM
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solara is a suck car... we can beat it very easily
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 05:58 AM
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did u guys catch the Michigan 500 on ABC last sunday? i.e. sponsered by toyo and they had the solara with a funky paint job as a pace car..it was good lookin.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 06:12 AM
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Solara's aren't all that bad..my girl has one and I drive it almost everyday. I would say that if she had gotten the leather, then it would be just as comfortable as my cl and my sisters CL-S. Although yes the power isn't all that grand for the autos, they have a manual and a supercharger already..so it seems like at least people try to make their parts.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 09:17 AM
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Too bad they're ugly as shit. Toyota hasn't made a decent looking car since they stopped selling the Supra over here.

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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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try finding a se solara v6 with a manual...just 'cuz they ahve a manual doesn't mean you can get one easily.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by JRock:
<STRONG>Too bad they're ugly as shit. Toyota hasn't made a decent looking car since they stopped selling the Supra over here.

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I have to kinda agree on this one! For me, it seems that toyota started aiming their cars towards female drivers...Most toyotas will catch my gf's eyes but not mine..
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 01:04 PM
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yea it seems the solara is a chic's car
There's one at work, lowered w/ rims, driven by a female...that car just looks so boaty
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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A stock CL-S should be able to beat a (supposedly) stock 5spd Solara, but you never know. The Acura only puts about 30 more hp to the wheels, and weighs 100 pounds more. I know of one totally stock Camry 5spd V6 with a top notch driver who got 15.0s out of it. Put a well driven Solara against a CL-S that is a little slow because of tune/heavy wheels/whatever, and you may have a Toyota win. Also, the Suburban may have ended the race before the CL-s could spend much time in the VTEC range.

As for availability of 5spd Solaras, any dealer can order one. Anybody who won't wait to get the car they want deserves to have whatever their dealer stocks.

I agree about the rarity of sc'd Camry/Solaras; there's probably not many out there. But if the Solara owner wanted to race a car known to be faster (like the CL-S), I'm thinking he may have reason for such confidence. Maybe he had the blower.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 10:09 PM
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Just because he has 18 inch wheels doesn't necessarily mean they weigh more. Nor do they necessarily have a longer rolling circumference, that depends on his tire size.
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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Cap'n Carl:
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As for availability of 5spd Solaras, any dealer can order one. Anybody who won't wait to get the car they want deserves to have whatever their dealer stocks.
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when i was going to get a clk430, there was a 1-2 month wait. i'd expect that for a benz, but for a toyota camry?

and you can't "order" a 5spd v6 solara 'cuz toyota only makes a certain number of them. the only thing the they can do is search other dealers for one and trade.

i had a friend who went through this and went to every toyota dealer within 50 miles, and none had one a v6 5spd available. and the best they could do was search more dealers (none of the dealers had 4cyl in manual either).

he ended up getting a 4cyl cougar for some reason.
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 12:35 AM
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One more thing you have to keep in mind when comparing the solara vs the CL-S is that the solara was built back when my 1st gen was the CL. I am not sure on this, but I think they built the current solara to compete with my CL and not the new ones..

The solara is also still in 1st gen form while the CL's that you are comparing it to are in the 2nd generation form..

It's not really a boat when I drive it, it feels alright. It does seem to roll a little bit more than my car in the turns, but otherwise it is the same. The springs feel kinda softer than mine also..
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 12:49 AM
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the solara isn't in it's first generation, it's in whatever generation the camry is in 'cuz that's what it is, a 2 door camry...the camry solara.

slap another name on the accord cpe, and we can have an accord luna...the luna, nemesis of the solara.

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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by mrdeeno:
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when i was going to get a clk430, there was a 1-2 month wait. i'd expect that for a benz, but for a toyota camry?

and you can't "order" a 5spd v6 solara 'cuz toyota only makes a certain number of them. the only thing the they can do is search other dealers for one and trade.

i had a friend who went through this and went to every toyota dealer within 50 miles, and none had one a v6 5spd available. and the best they could do was search more dealers (none of the dealers had 4cyl in manual either).

he ended up getting a 4cyl cougar for some reason.</STRONG>
With any brand, the dealers don't like to order a car; they'd much rather sell one off the lot, or at least off some other dealer's lot. But you can order them, I did mine. If the regular salespeople won't do it, I go to the fleet and leasing salespeople. They don't screw around.

Having driven the CL-S and the Solara, I think the stock Solara is kind of a boat; it does roll too much. The Acura has as good a ride quality and much better handling. Adding the TRD rear anti-roll bar and stiffer tires to the Solara turn it into a very nicely balanced car, for a fwd car anyway.
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 07:24 AM
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it might have been supercharged
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 02:20 PM
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Dammmmnnnnnn. I currently drive a Solara SLE and I find it to be great ride. Sure it isn't going to corner like a racer, but it handles pretty good for FWD and it will accel well enough to keep you in contention with some sportier cars.
Not that I go out looking for a run, but there is plenty of seperation and passing power for a car of it's class. I just wish Toyota had offered a 5-speed in the SLE.
I think the Solara is a great car and I like the look. And yes, this Cat has some dangling fruit, so it's not just a "chicks" car.
Anyway, my lease terminates in Sept., and I will be looking strongly at the CL-S for my next car. It would suck if when I get one if I were to someday loose to a stock Solara.
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by PhatNastyCat:
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Anyway, my lease terminates in Sept., and I will be looking strongly at the CL-S for my next car. It would suck if when I get one if I were to someday loose to a stock Solara. </STRONG>


and no u won't lose..hehehhe
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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the reason you dont see many young people riding on CLs is because they are $30,000. many young guys are still in college and on a pizza and beer budget Old farts have tons of money and now they can have a nice car they wish they had when they were young. Now that is just my opinion, correct me if im wrong.
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by nandowong
the reason you dont see many young people riding on CLs is because they are $30,000. many young guys are still in college and on a pizza and beer budget Old farts have tons of money and now they can have a nice car they wish they had when they were young. Now that is just my opinion, correct me if im wrong.
DAMN bro you went WAYYY back in the posts. I posted this like 6 months ago
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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how'd you find this???
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 01:33 AM
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CLS OR clp will denefitely beat a suck solara..that is a suck car..just a 2 door camry
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by tw1112
how'd you find this???
Search is back up
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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First off, I'd be careful calling the Solara an ugly-ass car because, unless you all are blind, it shares a lot of styling cues with our cars. Ever see one coming at you head on--it's front end looks very similar and many menbers have mentioned this previously.

Secondly, thanks to whoever posted about rolling distance on 18's: if I remember correctly an 18inch rim with 235/40 tires is almost exactly the same overall dimaeter as our stock setup.
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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First off, I'd be careful calling the Solara an ugly-ass car because, unless you all are blind, it shares a lot of styling cues with our cars. Ever see one coming at you head on--it's front end looks very similar and many menbers have mentioned this previously.

Secondly, thanks to whoever posted about rolling distance on 18's: if I remember correctly an 18inch rim with 235/40 tires is almost exactly the same overall dimaeter as our stock setup.
I stand by my statement of last July - it's an ugly-ass car.
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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I stand by my statement of last July - it's an ugly-ass car.
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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If you look at the new one now, it is very different from the new camry. Except for the engine, the body is very different now. I still like it to some extent
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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I don't think the solara is that ugly. Its not all that great but its ok. Im more curious as to how he revived this thread after 9 months
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