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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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Questions on CL-S mods from an AV6 owner

I plan to swap a CL-S engine, tranny, and ECU into my Accord at some point in the future.

Apart from any suspension upgrades, I/H/E, and supercharger, what other mods are out there perfomance wise for the CL-S?

Does unorthodox Racing make Pullies for the CL? or are the same ones from the AV6 used?

Who has the most souped up CL-S on this board and what's he or she got in it?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:08 PM
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if you're going to go all out, do the 3.5L upgrade. The member by the name TypeR has it done to his CL-S. From what I understand he used a MDX block (or something like that) to do it.

Pullies are available...and I believe unorthodox makes a set. I know of a few ppl on the board that has the full pulley install...although I can't remember the exact brand.

Good luck with your engine swap. Sounds like it's going to be a project and a half.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by chikai
if you're going to go all out, do the 3.5L upgrade. The member by the name TypeR has it done to his CL-S. From what I understand he used a MDX block (or something like that) to do it.
Do the who what huh?
There was an audible "whoosh" as your suggestions went over my head. More info please.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Damn yo...your car is pretty clean...good job
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by jasonh1234
Do the who what huh?
There was an audible "whoosh" as your suggestions went over my head. More info please.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...&highlight=3.5

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...&highlight=3.5

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...&highlight=3.5
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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yeah...check out this links that peiqinglong posted.

Basically, the CL-S has a 3.2L engine. You can do a swap to enlarge the engine to a 3.5L thereby generating more horsies. Does that make sense?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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By the way, sweet ride...

what kind of light bulbs do you have in your fog/driving light housing? Are they yellow? Do they look anything like the Lexus fogs?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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that swap (j32a2 6mt) will make your car haul ass, especially if you s/c it. a 100 shot of n2o would work too


i didn't know the cl-s was over 400 pounds heavier than the accord coupe, damn :o

the pulley set is the same except for the alt. pulley.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by peiqinglong
Links
Thx.

Originally posted by chikai
what kind of light bulbs do you have in your fog/driving light housing? Are they yellow? Do they look anything like the Lexus fogs?
Regular Honda bulbs, yes they're yellow, and yes as a matter of fact they look identical to Lexus fogs. (They are Lexus fogs.)
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:21 AM
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Wow. Very impressive sounding! So let me see if I got this all straight... The mod is taking the 3.5 liter block from a j35A4 (Honda Oddysey minivan) having it modified by some company owned by Doug Foss (syncivic), and then putting it in a CL-S?

What is RES and MMII?


Originally posted by typeR
...and the tranny (my second) shows no signs of failure (the first tranny was replaced well before the new engine).
The Type S Manual trannys are having failure problems as well?!?!
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:31 AM
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nope, he's on a 5speed stock auto trannny
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by jasonh1234
What is RES and MMII?
These products may never see the light of day...they still are an idea after like 2 years.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:53 AM
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they aint coming out, nuff said.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 02:11 AM
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Does Doug Foss have a web site somewhere that talks about this mod more?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Jason,

you have one of the best looking AV6C I've seen!! Good luck with your quest on the CLS converstion.

Is the air dams on your hood functional? Or is it covered?

BTW, I read through your comments on the links, I don't think you need a spoiler at all.. It'll look so clean without it!! Or if you do want one, have you considered the TypeR style spoiler? They look pretty nice and clean on the AV6C.

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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Jason thats one nice AV6. Very nicely done!

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Did you ever get rid of your god-awful Altezza lights (IMHO)? The M5s are truly tight. The 3.5 conversion would get nice to see!
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by GOT PSI?
Did you ever get rid of your god-awful Altezza lights (IMHO)?
No. Nobody wants them and I bought them before I knew how hated Altezzas were. I thought they just looked cool. (sigh)
Maybe if the inside chrome areas were painted body color, they might look better and people wouldn't hate on them as much(?)
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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hey how come you are swapping in the cls engine? is it really going to be worth the cost? im not trying to flame here, im actually trying to learn
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Well the Accord has a crap auto tranny that'll probably die eventually anyway. Swapping in a manual 6 speed is a good idea to avoid problems and make the car more mod friendly.

Accord ECU has problems knowing when to engage VTEC with a 6 speed manual and there are no mods available for the ECU to counter this.

If you're gonna switch the ECU and the tranny, you might as well do the engine too and gain the 60+ hp.

I figure with a CL-S powered Accord, I'd have the fastest Accord on the planet (except for the unproduced Accord Coupe type R which has 300hp stock.)
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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Start by saying that is the fooking nicest honda/acura I've seen. Doesn't look rice or bling, just plain aggresive. anyway...

I have to echo bkknight369's question, is this going to be worth the $$$ for the swap? Seems by the time you get a new engine/tranny and do the first (and probably only) xover ever, you could be looking at a upgrade or two. If you're just into the unique thing, g/l... will be awesome to see (get some sponsorship!!!)

You might be waiting around for the chip upgrade.

Are you going to do the xover yourself or paying for it?

-- Nihil

PS. PLEASE don't put those spoilers on it. If you must, least check out a //M3 or 5 lip. Car is just too sweet to put a wing on.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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Sponsorship in these parts?
I'd have better luck getting struck by lightening I think.

I don't even know how to try and get sponsorship other than hope I get approached at a car show. I can't even enter a car show right now because I need to fix some scratches on my rims and don't have the money. A friend of mine was in a big show here a couple weeks ago. Now he's gonna be on the cover of some magazines. :-/ lucky him.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nihilistan

PS. PLEASE don't put those spoilers on it. If you must, least check out a //M3 or 5 lip. Car is just too sweet to put a wing on.
I did a photoshop to see what it'd look like. I don't think it'd be bad...

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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tight car i like that hood. by all means go for the swap i dont see any major problems in doing it with our cars being so similar. oh and i'll pass on the wing do a subtle lip spoiler like some other people said
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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I have an 2001 AV6 Sdn. It's Firepepper Red Pearl. I wondered if I wanted to ditch my J30A1 + auto to either the new Accord's J30A4 motor + 5spd auto or 6spd manny or J32A2 + 5spd auto or 6spd manny to our Accords, wouldn't we need wiring harnesses for the entire dash area??? or would it be possible to convert it safely and properly to make the J30A1's harness work with the J30A4/J32A2 motor's ECU?

Putting in a J35A(whatever) would make the car NOSE heavy, RIGHT?
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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The wiring question would be better directed at a mechanic.
The nose weight question... I don't know the difference in weight of the engines but I doubt it'd be anything more than a couple of pounds (?)
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:28 AM
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take the spoiler off, and fill in the holes... NO SPOILER is also very clean
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by jasonh1234
Show a rear-photochopp where it looks like a 747

Obviously it's your car, so whatever suits you. Still a damn sweet ride whichever way.

I want to see a post from Scalbert and other mechanics on this conversion...
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