RobOnLI

Just want to make sure I didn't screw up....I picked up a PureOne PL14459 at Auto Zone today and the price sticker said $5.99 or whatever. It rang up as $2.99 ($3.24 after tax).

Are there two different PureOne filters? Half the boxes at this place were blue and the other half were white. But both said premium. Also, some people are talking about their filters being blue. This one is white.

-Rob M.

DRM600

don't the pureone filters come in a grey box and the regular purolators come in a white/blue box? could've been a mistake. i got a k&n air filter for the cl for 5.90.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

There are PureOne and Premium, get the miron one the Colorful box with shiny solid blue filter...

It's 5.99 MSRP usually I pay 4.99... 2.99 is an excellent deal stock on those...

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Here is a pic of PureOne Filter on my CLS

Mr Hyde

I use the Pure one also, but I only used the 14459 once since its actually smaller than the OEM filters which I was unhappy about.
The 24458 Pure One fits exactly, but has a longer canister, and more filter media. Bigger is better as far as filters go, so if you are looking for an even better filter check out the 24458.

RobOnLI

Yep, I f*cked up. I got the L14459 - not even the PL.

Mr Hyde - I'll look into that filter. Acura isn't going to be bitch about it, will they? Does it fit *exactly*? Are you from NHP?

Thanks for the help guys,
Rob M.

Mr Hyde

It fits exactly, and I live in Albertson which is in between Manhasset and Roslyn, but I am in FP and NHP all the time.

Juker008

Nashua_Night_Hawk,

U post whore . Yea boy U know whats the best filter out there .


Mr Hyde,

Wholey $hit there is an even bigger filter out there. Bro I am writing this one down.



Hey have u guys ever see the display at the auto parts store with the two filters and the Pure One filter. U know how they have all three filters cut in half to show u the amount of filter media that the Pure One has in comparison. Well I have taken a hack-saw to one of my Pure One oil filter after 3K and the media is not what it looks like in the display. After 3K, the oil filter looks more like filter B, u know the generic filter in the display, not the $hitiest one but the next one. And to think people want to take they oil and oil filters up to and past 5K. Man I would love to have all those people mail me thier oil filters after 5K and let me open those up. Heck I think what I would find would make me rather throw in the generic display oil filter 'A' then have a 5K+ oil filter in my car.


Juker008

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Mobil 1, M-104!

russianDude

PureOne Purolator is of the same quality as M-104. The only difference, its half the price of M-104.

On sale, I can get PL for $4.99 at PepBoys...

You will have better results changing PL TWICE for every M-104 change.

fender4

Fun Link

Note this link has links to other filter studies

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

russianDude

It does not mention anything about PL filter?
I think PL is as good as M-104 ....

Juker008

There u go now u are starting to learn. Oil filters don't go past 3K.


Juker008

russianDude

Well.... I still change my oil every 6K miles for 50/50 city/highway driving using synthetic oil. I use PureOne Puralator filter.
Following owners manual

Juker008

Ok its ur call. At least ur using the rightoil filter.
U can lead a horse to water but u can't get em to change their oil every 3K .


Juker008

magbarn

I know this thread is old...., but Mr Hyde have you had any problems with the 24458? I've recently put this oil filter in my parent's 2003 CLS and the tip of the filter looks perilously close to the suspension bit that's right underneath it. I noticed this think that looks like a U goes up a little with the suspension travel. How much is the danger of this bit hitting the oil filter if I drove over a pothole? Thanks in advance!

soopa

fuck the M-104


USE THE M-105!!!!!


and i dont trust purolator. they just look ghey.

joeandcarol2

I'm on my second 24458. Longer, fits exactly, no problems.

joeandcarol2

I have also wondered about the suspension parts and maybe this is why Honda has gone to a shorter filter. Guess im taking a bit of a chance

joeandcarol2

So are you saying all filters are the same.. And all are good for just 3,000 miles?

fender4

NOTE this site has been updated,,, more fun reading

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Nashua_Night_Hawk

no individual tests!

Slimey

Thanks for pointing out the update. It seems they've downgraded the construcion of STP & Bosch (which formerly were supposedly the same as Mobil 1). I'll continue with Mobil 1 and PureOne at the top of my personal list. Interestingly enough, the Subaru OEM is a Purolator PureOne -- it'd be nice if Honda went the same way and used a better quality OEM filter*.




*It'd also be nice to add some flow and filtering numbers to these 'studies'. In the end, it doesn't matter so much what the filters look like - it matters what they do, and how effectively they do it. As bad as Fram and Honda USA OEM look, they might do their job just as well (or well enough) as everybody else.

fender4

I thought the same at first,, punch on data link about 3/4 down

fender4

I agree but this is still pretty good,, I use the oversize Amsoil sdf44 ($8.80 my cost) and change it every 5k,,, I change the syn 5w30 every 10k and do oil analysis every 20k,,, so far I haven't had any bad numbers that prove the filter is not doing it's job,, the oil numbers have been good enough to keep it in there longer than 10k,,, but 10k is good enough for me,,,

russianDude

Honda OEM is OK if you change it every 3K miles. For longer drain intervals you need synthetics and good oil filter like Mobil 1 or puralator.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

almost 200 sqr " filter media for the
pl24459.

Juker008

No not all filters are the same. Fram are by far the worst, foam meadia, it doesn't last past 2K. I've been using Purolator filters for some time. I've used the oversized filter and the standard sized filter all up to 3K. I've taken both apart with a hacksaw. What I've found was that after 3K the filter media in the oversized filter had the same ammount of filter media as the standard sized filter. What I am saying is that filter media shrinks during usage. When I hear that people are going 5K and more, on a standard size filter, it worries me.






Juker008

fender4

I have found one Co. that tests and promotes their filters to last 12.5k miles or 6 months,,, note that is with true synthetic oil,, less if you use dino oil.

http://www.amsoil.com/products/sdf.html

If you have any other test data post it here,,shrinking might not be a bad thing I don't know..

civic4982

I don't put oil in my car... weight reduction.

Juker008

Oh I forgot to mention to u guys. If u run with an oversized filter u will lose some oil pressure. If u run with thicker oil u will increase oil pressure. So offset both and run thicker oil and a larger oil filter thats what I am doing now. I went with thicker oil mainly because of Fla's temps and also becasuse I am on N2O.






Juker008

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Juker,

My understanding is that only the blow-by value works at higher PSI than the stock size. This means that it would not open and keep closed unless the oil pressure gets higher.. So filtration is better overall.

EricL, Scalbert,

What do you think?

Nashua

Mr Hyde

Ive used the bigger filter since the 2nd oil change on my TL-S with no problem (~2yrs), also been using it on my Accord for longer than that. There are no suspension pieces or anything like that that will get in the way of the longer canister, so the Pure One 24458, and M 105 which is ridiculously expensive now are both fine.

fender4

I use have used a amsoil sdf44 over size for 20k miles and haven't had any problems. It's a fatter filter not longer.

russianDude

Puralator is a good filter as far as micron filtration, but I am skeptical about it's flow. People say it is too restrictive for the oil flow. Does anyone have more info on that? Honda OEM might be filtering less, but flow is better.

Probably M1 filter is the way to go.

civic4982

Where can yo ufind the puralator? I looked at autozone but it wasn't there.

Instead I put on the M1105 and it fit perfectly and also is a lot bigger than my old one.

Did any of you guys notice how much smaller the new Honda Filters are? They're as thin as a soda can now.

Slimey

Pep Boys carries Purolator filters.

RobOnLI

For those using the PL24458 or PL24459, what oil are you using? 5W-30?

-RM

Nashua_Night_Hawk

I am using now the oversized PL24458 with 5W-30 Mobil One. I am running 5k miles.

Next fill at 50 kmiles would be Castrol Syntec 5W-30 with the same oversized filter 5W-30.

BTW, I checked the control arms clears the oversized filler by at 1"-2".