Possibly Blown Piston Rings/Motor: Acuracare Questions

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Old 07-09-2007, 01:17 PM
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Possibly Blown Piston Rings/Motor: Acuracare Questions

My car is at the Dealership as of right now and the service tech called me stating that they needed my approval to start a tear down of the engine to determine what is going wrong with my engine. They stated that I could be charged for 6 hours of labor if the AcuraCare Rep states that the problems exist due to the supercharger and would not cover the repair nor the labor associated with the tear down of the engine.

Has anyone had any similar experience.

My Cars symptoms right now are:
MisFires on all cylinders,
Car feels like its running on 3 cylinders,
White smoke emitting out when the oil cap is removed and also coming out if the dipstick is removed.
Oil Light coming Flashing On

My personal mechanic (Not from Acura, a Friend of the car club) says the white smoke is oil burning in the cylinders due to blown/worn out piston rings most likely caused from boost.


Should I roll the dice and the AcuraCare rep may cover it under warranty or should I not take the chance of losing 600 bucks and use it towards a 3.5L block with CLS heads.

Anyone have a similar experience please chime in. I was running the CLS HBP.
Old 07-09-2007, 01:28 PM
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White smoke is usualy coolant burning and not oil, oil has a blue color to it when it burns.

Although this test is not all that great did they run a compression test, if it comes up low when not under load then yeah you got problems.

If you can temporarily solve your compression problem with some thick oil after running the test then yeah its probably your rings, otherwise you might just have blown a head gasket or two.

You can get one of those pressure testers for the radiator that pressurizes the whole system so you can see where the coolant is coming from.

Did you blow any of your plugs? Any traces of oil in the IM and supercharger?

Now would be a good time to do a 3.5, I did my 3.2 when my 3. went out
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I believe 3 of the plugs were covered in oil. No Compression test was done. They are awaiting my response before working on the car.
Old 07-09-2007, 01:42 PM
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You might have been able to bring it in without the supercharger and tried it under warranty but since that was not the case. I think you're going to have to let them fix it if you see white smokes and the car feels weird. If it's the engine, they will definitely try to blame it on the sc.
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
I believe 3 of the plugs were covered in oil. No Compression test was done. They are awaiting my response before working on the car.
Did you have the misfire light flash on you when you were driving then you saw it stay on, then smoke?
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Your screwed. No way they are going to cover that. It sounds like boost damage to me.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Your screwed. No way they are going to cover that. It sounds like boost damage to me.
Yep thats what Im leaning towards, I just want to see the carnage
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The CEL would stay lit and flash during cruising when the idling problems started occuring... then over a short drive the car felt like it was running on 3 cylinders. The CEL never went off.

The Smoking was discovered by my personal mechanic when he was attempting to diagnose the problem and stated that is common when the Piston rings deteriorate.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Yep thats what Im leaning towards, I just want to see the carnage
Yeah I feel the same. Guess I'll be the first person with a boosted 3.5. Probably gonna go drop off the loaner today and have the CL towed.
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yeah Jay might as well go the 3.5 route cause what they'll charge you in repairs and a new engine you can have the 3.5 completely swapped but make sure you get it tuned as soon as its done and run low boost for a while.
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
The Smoking was discovered by my personal mechanic when he was attempting to diagnose the problem and stated that is common when the Piston rings deteriorate.
I'd find a new mechanic.

Blue smoke out the tail pipe is common when you lose the rings, white smoke out the breather is coolant in the oil; usually a blown head gasket or perhaps a cracked head. A leak down test will tell the tale.
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I see a 3.5L conversion in your near future.
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save your money for the 3.5, your motor is waxed. GL.
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