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Old 07-28-2009 | 09:00 AM
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im all good now, found out i have type 1 diabetes.
Old 07-28-2009 | 09:13 AM
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^ Are you serious?

If so, I'm truly sorry.
Old 07-28-2009 | 09:42 AM
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yea. it will post pone my build. i still will do some minor things here and their to my car while i have a week off work bc of this.
Old 07-28-2009 | 11:49 AM
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hmm, f22 with a D tranny, eh? I'm gonna have to look into that
Yup, H2D kit bolts up.

Originally Posted by Wes_R
Civic your killing me here 2 weeks already and I have lost 40lbs, I am just skin and bones now because of this damn "possible new mod".


lol
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yea. it will post pone my build. i still will do some minor things here and their to my car while i have a week off work bc of this.
That really sucks man. #1 Priority is your health, so take car of that first.

The dyno session is scheduled for Friday at 430p right after work. Ill have the graphs posted friday night
Old 07-28-2009 | 12:39 PM
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cant wait to see those dyno numbers!!!

Rajca, hope all is well with you..
Old 07-28-2009 | 04:44 PM
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Take care of yourself Rajca.

Is it Thursday yet ?:P
Old 07-28-2009 | 07:48 PM
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Sadly its only tuesday and Im getting ready to head back out to work. Who knows when my day will be done
Old 07-28-2009 | 07:52 PM
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that sucks, what do u do?
Old 07-28-2009 | 07:53 PM
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yea. it will post pone my build. i still will do some minor things here and their to my car while i have a week off work bc of this.
Damn man...again sorry to hear.

Get some rest and stay positive.
Old 07-28-2009 | 08:08 PM
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that sucks, what do u do?
I work on computer and networking equipment, mainly servers and store POS systems. Its nice because I dont usually go to the same place all the time so Im always meeting new people, but the hours just suck. Im constantly working overnight and even on weekends, and putting crazy mileage on my car.

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Damn man...again sorry to hear.

Get some rest and stay positive.
I think he is resting, I havent seen him logoff AZine yet
Old 07-28-2009 | 08:19 PM
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lol, got nothing better to do.
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I had 6 months like that...lol
Old 07-31-2009 | 10:06 AM
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Less then 6 hours till Im on the dyno!!!!!
Old 07-31-2009 | 10:09 AM
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Comeon 275++ WHP!!!!!!!
Old 07-31-2009 | 10:50 AM
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Comeon 275++ WHP!!!!!!!
LOL. Not in m car. I had 232whp/202wtq before, Ill be happy if I get 245whp.

275+++++ is not too far off though
Old 07-31-2009 | 11:19 AM
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why not join the 300 club... hope to see some nice numbers. Considering this as next mod
Old 07-31-2009 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SPoolinspOON
why not join the 300 club...
Next month......300 plus many more
Old 07-31-2009 | 03:37 PM
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I have made arrangements to order this manifold. From what I understand, the cover includes the actuator that will need to be spliced into from the factory actuator wiring (i will leave the details for the DIY writeup that may come)

What I am wondering is... if this manifold is bolted onto a CLS6 that has I/H/E/Pulley does it at least 10whp/10whtq ON A STOCK throttle body?

If it does add 10/10, what benefit would a bored TB or after-market TB further yield? I really dont want to start messing with the T/B too much but if there's power to be further taken (more than 5whp), why not?

Lastly, what should we tune with? AEM FIC6 or NEO or Emanage? Still havent found an answer that ensures the car wont detune the tune...

thanks again for everyones knowledge on this site... its a godsend...
Old 07-31-2009 | 03:50 PM
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So far as I have been able to calculate if you still have the 3.2L, the stock TB takes away 3-4 HP. That being said, the larger size TB would only net you 2 HP at best. As a consequence of moving to a larger size TB without increasing engine size you lose some low RPM throttle sensitivity.
Old 07-31-2009 | 04:46 PM
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Does anyone know if the MDX spacer would fit with this setup? It seems like a good use for the extra clearance that the IM gives you.
Old 07-31-2009 | 04:55 PM
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saw a member selling a mdx spacer in teh black market. so it would fit with the stock manifold. not sure about the 09manifold
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All of my mods combined have my car giving much more power from all ranges of the power band.

It is possible some torque has been lost from before I did the TB but there is more than when the car was stock so I don't care.
Old 07-31-2009 | 05:40 PM
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Cant wait to see what your car will put down with your 09 manifold plus all other boltons.
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dyno numbers!!!!
Old 08-01-2009 | 12:48 PM
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anything??
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where the numbers at?
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I need to find out what the helll is up with either my car or the dyno before I post numbers. Lets just say something isnt right concerning my numbers, and seeing how my baseline numbers were low its either something wrong with my car or the dyno I was running on. I need to run a compression test and possibly put it on another dyno to try to rule out some things. My car was probably not the best test-bed for this.
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that sucks.
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Yes, yes it does. I think I may have bad rings, or bad valve seals.
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so, 3.5 build?
Old 08-01-2009 | 02:53 PM
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Yup. I may pick up another block to do the work on, that way I can limit the time that car is down. But then I have to worry about selling my old one.
Old 08-01-2009 | 06:19 PM
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Post the numbers. I've posted numbers with my blown headgaskets and 12 bent exhaust valves before.
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Yea, but I dont want to mislead everyone and have plenty of people saying that this swap isnt worth it. I know its worth it. E30 knows its worth it. My car is just a piece of shit. Im not saying that because Im dissapointed in the numbers. Im saying that because I am 99% sure there is something wrong with my motor. Every oil change I am down .5-.75qts of oil, my catch can fills up rapidly, and my valves are ticking very loudly. My car has 94k miles on it. The past 40k have been very hard, and who knows what the previous owner did to it as well. I beat the shit out of the car every day, and I think it has taken its toll.

If I have the time to do the compression test tomorrow after work, Ill do it. Otherwise it will be monday.

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I love you Civic and appreciate your hard work and effort, just inscribe the dyno numbers on my tombstone.
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just curious, did u gain any hp? or was it worse?
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Alright fine, Ill post them. I have yet to scan in the graphs so Ill just say what the numbers were.

Before: 232/202 with 80* heat

After: 238/204 with 96* heat

All with headers/pulley/Icebox. It feels like it was more power gained, especially down low. If this really is only 6whp, then its the strongest 6hp Ive gained since doing the headers.

The graph that Ill post tomorrow (scanner is at work) shows that up top my tq curve began to taper off, whereas the baseline tq curve is steady at about 202wtq straight through to redline. Again, it doesnt feel that way, but at that point we're talking about a 4-8wtq drop.

I was talking with someone about my previous idle issues and I inquired about the FPR. They said its possible that it could have been supplying too much fuel thus causing the ECU to open the IACV in an attempt to lean it out somewhat. My AFR readings didnt look bad though.

Im planning on building the 3.5l within the month or so. I wasnt trying to do it till the timing belt needed to be done, but Ill just bite the bullet and do it now. The only thing Id like to do is get my other car on the road so I at least have something to drive while it's down.

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numbers arnt that bad.
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I love you Civic and appreciate your hard work and effort, just inscribe the dyno numbers on my tombstone.
The love is mutual

lol

I cant take all of the credit. E30 helped me with my install and he figured out the wiring, and Sean at P2R made this swap easy for us by making the adapters.
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Alright fine, Ill post them. I have yet to scan in the graphs so Ill just say what the numbers were.

Before: 232/202 with 80* heat

After: 238/204 with 96* heat

All with headers/pulley/Icebox. It feels like it was more power gained, especially down low. If this really is only 6whp, then its the strongest 6hp Ive gained since doing the headers.

The graph that Ill post tomorrow (scanner is at work) shows that up top my tq curve began to taper off, whereas the baseline tq curve is steady at about 202wtq straight through to redline. Again, it doesnt feel that way, but at that point we're talking about a 4-8wtq drop.

I was talking with someone about my previous idle issues and I inquired about the FPR. They said its possible that it could have been supplying too much fuel thus causing the ECU to open the IACV in an attempt to lean it out somewhat. My AFR readings didnt look bad though.

Im planning on building the 3.5l within the month or so. I wasnt trying to do it till the timing belt needed to be done, but Ill just bite the bullet and do it now. The only thing Id like to do is get my other car on the road so I at least have something to drive while it's down.
6whp is still good if u have these problems...what was ur WHP the last time u went to the dyno?...and also did u do a before and after intake dyno the same day? or is ur base line the last time u were on the dyno?...my intake manifold is late coming from japan..so i will soon be on the dyno ..was told by acura that it was on backorder and now it will be here by mid week or end of the week...
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6whp is still good if u have these problems...what was ur WHP the last time u went to the dyno?...and also did u do a before and after intake dyno the same day? or is ur base line the last time u were on the dyno?...my intake manifold is late coming from japan..so i will soon be on the dyno ..was told by acura that it was on backorder and now it will be here by mid week or end of the week...
The baseline was the first time I was on the dyno, and that was a month ago. The after runs were done yesturday. In a perfect world I would have done the baseline, then swapped the manifold and put it back on the dyno the same day, but it wasnt possible.

Your manifold is coming from Japan? Everything I had said it came from Ohio (where the TL is built). Usually the parts from Japan have Honda of Japan on them.


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