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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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I know this isn't about Acura, just want some input on a Rustang.

My neighbor's got this old Mustang for sale. He wants $4000 for it and says it will do 9 sec. 1/4 miles. The body and interior need alot of work. If he can prove this with time slip, is this a good buy? Think its a 68.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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that's hard to say without being a mechanic and knowing what needs to be done. Take it to a shop and get an estimate if you want to fix up the body and interior, then you'll at least know what you'll have to drop if you want to fix it up.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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Yeah I helped him with some work on it, seemed pretty sound mechanically. I guess I need a compression check etc. etc.. I think I might just keep it disguised as a hybrid sleeper junker for a while, if I do buy it.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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I have a 66 with a small, stock 289 and a 4spd. These cars are a lot of fun to work on. You can mod the hell out of them and NEVER worry about hurting resale, etc. When there fixed up, they look and sound cool and chicks dig old cars.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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I don't know much about Mustangs, but does a 9sec. 1/4 mile sound right for a car that looks stock? I don't know what gears he has in the rear end.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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I'd be really, really suspect...9 seconds seems like it would be relatively expensive to achieve in that car and $4k sounds way too good to be true...
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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Yeah I know, I need proof, timeslips. That car does burn outs like it's nothing.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Yeah I know, I need proof, timeslips. That car does burn outs like it's nothing.
You better be carefull......

My mom has a 79 monte carlo with a 305 in it and it will do burn outs all day long, but it is certainly no 9sec car. Are you sure he didn't mean a 9sec 1/8mile run?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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I miss my 78 Corboba. And yes, 9 sec. sounds ridiculous for this car at that price.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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A timeslip doesn't mean shit unless he can prove he achieved THAT time in THAT particular car.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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yeah, ask to go to the track with him and watch it do the 1/4.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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prove it with a slip it
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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What does it have for an engine? Trans? Rear end? Does he have drag slicks? All of those parts should reflect a 9 sec car. Nitrous?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Just know that you will not be able to drive an HONEST 9sec early stang on the street. It will be way to loud and have a full cage, etc. It would be really cool though.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Thanks for all the input, I will personally pay to have it run the 1/4 mile to be sure. I guess a 9sec. car would be a little dangerous on the road. Oh yeah, the car kinda idles smooth, I thought the if it ran 9's the taller cam would make it have an erratic idle?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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what motor?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Chemmech
Thanks for all the input, I will personally pay to have it run the 1/4 mile to be sure. I guess a 9sec. car would be a little dangerous on the road. Oh yeah, the car kinda idles smooth, I thought the if it ran 9's the taller cam would make it have an erratic idle?
I would think it would sound fairly exotic even at idle. Do you know what motor he has? Could still be a worthwhile purchase if the body's clean even if it doeasn't run 9's. A 9 sec early mustang would be fairly radical on the street. If you rode in it and aren't sure if it's a 9 sec car it's probably not. I think the old 428 cobra jet mustangs would only do 13s maybe 12s with slicks.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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I'm gonna try to get details tommorrow. Yeah, Me thinks I need more info from the current Mustang owner. From what I've gathered from all of your posts, the car would have to be radically moded to be in 9's.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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i guess you dont realize how fast a 9 second quarter mile is. Its rather difficult to get a street legal car to run 9's. Most aren't street legal, and you definitely be able to tell....btw do you knwo the motor specs or anything??
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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First off, he probably has a built motor with forged internals. Second, he probably has either a turbo or supercharger. Thirdly, because of said forged internals, he is probably spraying uncanny amounts of nitrous, probably a 250 shot. All those, with some huge slicks in the back, would probably get you 9's with some seriously short gears.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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So Strut, that being said why would he sell his car for $4,000 unless he was a crack fiend?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by Strut
First off, he probably has a built motor with forged internals. Second, he probably has either a turbo or supercharger. Thirdly, because of said forged internals, he is probably spraying uncanny amounts of nitrous, probably a 250 shot. All those, with some huge slicks in the back, would probably get you 9's with some seriously short gears.

there are MANY MANY N/A old muscle cars running that quick. It's probably not running juice and boost, but most likely is running a big S/C. What i'm a little curious about is why is the car so damn cheap. The motor alone to get you that quick is going to run you around 6-8K.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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because he's not running 9's. Nobody in their right mind would sell something that fast for that cheap if the work is done properly
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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because he's not running 9's. Nobody in their right mind would sell something that fast for that cheap if the work is done properly


well you do never know. I've seen a few SICK hot rods go for about half their worth. A good example was otu at a swap meet, a guy was selling a cherry 72 el camino w/ a brand new crate 540 ci motor in it and was asking 8K. The price of the motor alone. The reason was he was getting a divorce and his wife was trying to take the car There was no way in hell he was gonna let her have it.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Just know that you will not be able to drive an HONEST 9sec early stang on the street. It will be way to loud and have a full cage, etc. It would be really cool though.


Cage for anything under 11.49...at NED, anyway. I'm not sure if that's an IHRA rule or not, though.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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http://www.mycobra.us/videos/turbo-gn.wmv
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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http://www.mycobra.us/videos/turbo-gn.wmv

I am so close to selling my CL and getting a GN

i've gone and looked at 5 so far, just haven't found the right one
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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So Strut, that being said why would he sell his car for $4,000 unless he was a crack fiend?
Guys, the general rule about car mods is that they are a wash when the time comes to sell a car. And, in the case of new cars, they usually decrement the value of the car. I had a mustang before my vette (which was before my CLS), and my stang had exhuast, springs, wheels/tires, cold air, MAF, shifter, sub/amp, and some other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. However, I got nothing for any of this stuff when I traded my car in.

I'm telling you, the reason why this guy's car is so fast on the strip is probably because of nitrous, which is cheap compared to a blower. I'm sure he has a nice built motor, but that doesn't make the price of the car skyrocket. I'm sure *he* paid a lot for all the mods, but that doesn't mean someone else will give him the money for them.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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The motor it has is a 289. Like some one else said, "too good to be true." This car is pretty much stock, no FI, no moded internals. What could these cars do stock? If you were lucky could it be in the low thirteens?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Chemmech
The motor it has is a 289. Like some one else said, "too good to be true." This car is pretty much stock, no FI, no moded internals. What could these cars do stock? If you were lucky could it be in the low thirteens?
honestly if he's lucky it's probably a mid 15 second car.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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honestly if he's lucky it's probably a mid 15 second car.
Aaaarrrrghh!!! With 4 grand I guess I'd be better off getting the SC for my TL-S
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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A good example was otu at a swap meet, a guy was selling a cherry 72 el camino w/ a brand new crate 540 ci motor in it and was asking 8K.
Okay, maybe so but that still isn't a 9 second car...

RobG said it best: 9 seconds is insanely fast and insanely expensive. You just don't sell if for $4k no matter if it's in a 'stang, an El Camino or even a Festiva unless you just gotta puff that glass di(k...
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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This is an old-ass car that probably has a beat-up interior and is basically a drag car. $4K really isn't that low for an old car with a nice motor but really nothing else.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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It will run a 9.06 @ 198 mph.



















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For 4k it does not matter what it runs, a good deal is a good deal. Find out what is has, have a mechanic look at it.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Hahaha!! Can't beat the laws of physics. Definately a good project car.

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by r10apple
Okay, maybe so but that still isn't a 9 second car...

RobG said it best: 9 seconds is insanely fast and insanely expensive. You just don't sell if for $4k no matter if it's in a 'stang, an El Camino or even a Festiva unless you just gotta puff that glass di(k...


the car was actually a 10 second flat car , but I hear you
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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I have a restored/modded 66 fastback,,,300 hp 4sp,, It's lucky if it can do 0-60 in seven sec.,, I just put in a 3:55 gearset rear which helps but it still runs slower than the cl-s,,, BUT it does sound really cool getting to 60,,,
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