hey guys,

just a quick question. if i were to get stock rotors and get nsx calipers, would they work? and would i need to get anything else other than the caliper itself? i.e. brake lines, nsx fitted brake pads?

 

Hmm I wonder about this also....

Somebody in an EK hatch fit NSX calipers on.
It's in the new Honda Tuning but it doesn't really give details.

Our rotor size is pretty much the same so if I come across a set I think I will try it myself.

Tony

 

I'l be doing this swap. I'm 100% sure the '91-'96 calipers fit the front. I'm waiting on a measurement for the rears. They fit our stock caliper brackets and yes our pads work with the calipers.

 

what are the advantages of the 91-96 nsx caliper?

 

The CL/TL caliper is a single 45mm piston. The NSX caliper is dual piston. 1 40mm and 1 36mm.

 

why not just get a BBK?

or does the nsx caliper fit w/ stock wheels?

 

They should fit the stock rims, On the 2005 the rotor is like 2mm off.

I don't think you want to do the rears, on the NSX the rear rotors are larger than the front and that would mess up our FF setup.

 

I know the dual piston will help in the warping department of our rotors but will it provide any more stopping power from our calipers? and also is the NSX pretty much the same as the legend caliper?

 

This sounds pretty sweet, you think it would be cheaper to get some nsx calipers then getting a big brake kit? And would the dual pistons provide a noticable increase in braking power?

 

BBK = $1,300
NSX front calipers + Rotora rotors = ~ $500

Yes it fits with the stock wheels. It fits with the stock caliper bracket!

 

It should help a little bit in distance, but not much. You'll get a better pedal feel however. And yes the NSX '91-'96 calipers are the same as the legend calipers. The legend calipers are even cheaper than the NSX calipers but they won't say "NSX"

 

Here's the '91-'96 caliper setup

 

where the hell did you get those, especially for $500?

Also, does this mean that nsx front rotors fit on our hubs?

 

where can you get calipers and rotora rotors for about 500?

i thought the calipers would be much more expensive than that.

 

Me too, they are $477 a piece on www. acuraautomotiveparts.org and that doesnt include any of the hardware to mount it.

 

The mounting hardware is not necessary. You can use the crap from the CL. But that is cheap. Maybe he found them used on ebay.

 

Of course I got them used. I'll rebuild them using new caliper kits and be done with it. I could have purchased all 4 calipers for $350.

Also, no need for NSX rotors. Your stock ones/Rotoras will work fine.

 

will the nsx/legend calipers fit the 16" wheels on the CL-P and also witch Legend the GS or the standard and what years, this is my next project. and also the stock brake lines will bolt right up? thanks

 

Yes I believe they will fit the 16" wheel. Afterall, the brakes on the Type-S and the non-Type-S are identical.

The lines will also bolt right up however, i'd replace them with stainless steel ones while you're at it!

These calipers will fit:

93-95 Legend LS Coupe
94-95 Legend GS Sedan
91-96 NSX

 

also will the stock brake pads will fit or should i get pads made for the cars the calipers originally came on. because i was looking up part numbers and the cars that have the calipers have a differnet part number than our cars.

 

Pads for the CL should fit since the calipers are identical in size. A few people have done this and used the stock pads.

 

FYI the Legend calipers will be cheaper than the NSX calipers. Even though they are nearly identical junkyards, etc will charge more just because they came off an NSX!

The Legend Coupe calipers actually have the largest pistons.

'91-'96 NSX have 40mm and 36mm pistons
Legend Coupe calipers have 40mm and 38mm pistons

You should be able to get a set of used Legend Coupe calipers for no more than $150/pair!

I paid $250 for my NSX calipers.

 

to be honest, i might just get the legend calipers and paint them... it would look kinda lame to have calipers that say NSX

 

I think it's kinda cool.

 

does getting the rear calipers make any difference? the dual piston is the front calipers so whats the point of getting the rears...curious.

 

I don't think the rear calipers will work on our cars. The rotor is a different size, thus the caliper bracket is a different size.

 

the font is most important anyways it does 70-80% of the stopping.

 

a few questions..

If i bought Legend Calipers from a junkyard, would i have to rebuild them or would they be bolt-on ready?

Is there a how-to on how to do this, or is it just pretty damn easy?

 

its pretty easy and you might have to rebuild them depends on how long they have been siotting, are they rusty ect. when i'm going to this i'm going to go to a parts store and get new oens that are already rebuilt, it will save me the trouble.

 

what kind of parts store? for something like brakes, i think i'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

Be VERY careful here, brakes are not a place for amatures to be screwing around.

Remember that if you change piston sizes (total area) it will take a different amount of fluid displacement to push the pads into contact with the rotors. You may have to change master cylinder size.

They will also grip the rotor with a different amount of force and will likely upset the front to back brake balance.

Mistakes can bite you in the ass here. Acura brakes are pretty good, unless you really know what you are doing I'd leave this alone.

 

like napa, pepboys they should all be able to order them for you. to the guy above me, the size of the piston on the car now and the new ones i think is equal your not getting anymore piston area but what you are getter is the force applied over a larger area of the pad, so you will get less warpage and you will better responding brakes. what i would like to know is if anyone has done this and how the car stops, any better any worse, how about locking up, will the abs come on faster?

 

I was thinking about doing the JDM Spoon caliper swap....I believe there was a 02'TL Member ("INSPIRES") who did this swap way back in the forum.....





That car was HOTT!!!! back in 02'

 

Now that i think about it, why exchange your year 2003 brakes with some brakes from a car that is over 10 and almost 15 years old (if you take them from a 91 nsx). I would think even though ours are 1 piston they are still probably more advanced, technologicly considering the 10 - 12 year diffrence.

 

That kinda contradictory isnt it? BUT, I know what you are saying. People buy BBKs for more force applied over a larger area and it does not disturb brake balance between the front and rear. It will only increase performance.

 

not really for other things yes, but brakes are really simple, the more pistons you have in a caliper the better it can stop a car. take a look at the old corvetts they had 4 pistons calipers, but what limited them to stopping good was tires, pad compound and no abs.

 

There's guys running 4 and 6 piston caliper big brake kits on the OEM master cylinder. Also, a few members have already done this swap and have tens of thousands of miles on the new calipers without a problem. I don't think that is going to be an issue. The stock Acura brakes suck. I don't know where you got the impression they are "pretty good." Having 4 sets of stock rotors warp in 25k miles isn't "pretty good" IMO.

 

You're thinking into this too much. The basic design on a caliper hasn't changed all that much in the past 15 years. It's a casting with a piston and a rubber boot.

 

i may have one-maybe two sets of nsx calipers i can sell, wont be for a few months probably, but i'll let everyone know-never would have thought to put them on a CL!

 

Maybe it won't be an issue, I just said be careful. Finding out that your spiffy new calipers take more fluid to push the pads in than the master cylinder holds could ruin your whole day. A very real possibility as the pads wear down.

Every time I put my foot down my CL stops well....better than my old RX7 or Miata did. I didn't say anything about rotor life.