Dear Mr. Grant,

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

PayPal has concluded the investigation of your Buyer Complaint. As our
policy states, we conducted this investigation on a best effort basis and
made no guarantee of funds recovery.

Case ID: xxxxx
Transaction Amount: $215.00
Transaction Date: 5/8/01
Seller's Email: Info@XephyrPerformance.com
Seller's Name: Christopher Koncur

Our investigation has revealed that the seller is at fault, as a result you
are due a refund. However, we regret to inform you that we were unable to
recover funds from the sellers account, as the seller's account balance is
$0. If this transaction occurred on an auction site, we encourage you to
contact that auction site, as they may provide you with insurance coverage.

We value your business and regret that you have had this experience. To
avoid similar experiences in the future, we recommend that you read our
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Sincerely,
Complaint Resolution Department

 

Get the rope...

 

Okay that really sucks! Last time my girl tried buying a watch for me and the guy never came through. They took it out of his credit card/bank account that he had on file. They just talked to his credit/bank and they authorized it because he was committing fraud.

 

That really sucks, I'd be fuming!! What next?

 

I am waiting on the BBB right now. I should here from them anyday. I submitted both complaints at the same time.

 

What can the BBB do?

 

Try to find SSMan66 and I think you will have found Xephyr. He's hawking parts on TL! When I confronted him here he deleted all of his posts. Now why do you think he would do that?

 

Believe me guys, if we wanted to, we could have 5-10 guys show up at his place and confront him. IMO, it isn't worth it for $200 ... the actions Rock Dog is taking are prudent & correct.

 

They have an avenue in which they investigate the complaint, and try to get the offender to resolve the conflict. UNder the guise of "customer relations".

 

Don't need 5-10! And I am quickly becoming tired of prudent and correct.

 

Rock Dog,

Contact your local Police Station and ask them what you should do. My father ran a small business for many years and many times a simple call from the local Police with a discussion about passing bad checks, which is against the law, would resolve the issue. While I know that your Police does not cover Mr. Koncur, we can probably find out where he lives in NJ and have them contact them...just a thought. While we like to bitch about the cops, they are generally helpful as long as they aren't chasing you...

 

Good luck, Rock Dog, this situation really sucks. The TL forum should be notified of SSMan66's (Xephyr's) practices so that more people don't end up getting screwed over.

 

Then what good is paypal's insurance if you cant recover your payment?

 

That's exactly what I will ask them tonight, when I respond to their letter.

[ 07-10-2001: Message edited by: Rock Dog ]

 

dude 200$ is alot of money....give me 50$ and ill go kick his ass

 

I've seen some shady businesmen in the past, but this guy takes the cake. The worst part about this is they all seem to get away with it. Rock Dog, I hope you follow through and don't let this go. I hope that everyone else who's had a problem gets involved too. I'd REALLY hate to see another con man get away with ripping people off like this. Good luck.

 

Yeah, Let's put this guy away. He sucks.

 

Hey fbazakos you sound like you know Chris personally and I remember reading posts where you staunchly defended Chris's name.. have you been in contact with him? Is he still located in Jersey?

 

someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i heard that the BBB can only do something if that business is registered w/ them in the first place...if a company didnt register w/ BBB, they cant help you...any truth to this?

 

LOL! I think he meant to get $200 back, not that he'll hire some thugs for $200. Good to know we've got some people for hire around here willing to do that kinda sh!t for cheap though...

 

Honestly, the BBB doesnt do shit...I used them before, got no results.

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Any accomplished hackers out there???
www.xephyrperformance.com

 

If Chris Konkor(sp?) is really his name, then call information in his town and get his god damm address! If you have this guys REAL name, then I don't see why you cannot track this guy down. Hell, he even was doing business with Park Ave! Don't they have SOMETHING on him? Maybe a home address or phonenumber?

You really need to take affirmitave action! forget the agencies. They don't do SHIT!

 

Yes it's his real name. It's not that easy 600 miles away. Agencies are there for one reason. Other things I'm working on are for another.

 

Ok, we have been trying to keep this off the web, so let's not get everybody all riled up again. My experience with Chris was good, I got my intake, spoke with him on the phone a bunch of times, etc. There are others who have met him & hung out with him. I'm even farther away than Rock Dog. I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, but now he is ignoring me, and I was his last supporter on this site.

 

$200 is not worth the effort. That amount of money is not enough to change your lift... Now if it was $1,000 that would be different, and I think that's the limit on higher claims courts or whatever.
Just clip coupons for a month or two and you'll be OK. My old roomate (dropout fat bastard) owes me $160 and I'm making no attempt to get it. I simply don't care. if ne needs that money so bad he can have it.

 

If I were you guys, I'd file a claim in small claims court. Find out the rules and regulations for filing and whether or not you need to be present.

If you win, he gets a judgement against him personally and that follows him where-ever he goes ...

 

Words to smile by.... We ran into a guy that took great pride in screwing people and evading service and knew every small claims court game in the book.

My wife works at a law firm, and I did some detective work and found all the property that this jerk owned -- she won her case, and put a lien against his property. Well, nothing happened for about 6 months.

Surprise, the a$$hole went to check on selling one of his apartments, and he couldn't even sell it and couldn't even get a credit card!!!

He fumed about this, but in the end -- justice was served.

It may seem like a hollow (pyric) victory, but that lien stays put like glue!!!!

 

So whats the deal? I thought there were a good amount of people who got intakes from Xypher Performance. Now all the sudden he decides to screw people? That doesnt make any sense. What is going on?

 

Is this the dude???

 

I doubt it. I can not believe the balls on some people, what a wad! I've enjoyed every moment in this board and am fucking pissed as well that some else out there is using it to exploit our members and there doesn't seem like much we can do about it. My heart goes out to you. I would do what ever it takes to make an example out of this guy. It just shouldn't be permitted.

 

ahahahhahahhahahha thats funny shit!

 

I just finished viewing the xephyrperformance.com website and I happened to notice that he has set the company up as a LLC. All I can say is GOOD LUCK getting your money back! It's very hard (damn' near impossible) to get money back from these types of companies.

 

Kewl! Send me a check money bags!