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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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NOS Kit?

I am itching to start feed my bay a Silver bottle (NX) or Purple Bottle (ZEX). I want to be at 13.xx!

I will go with Wet system, starting at 55 Shots!.

Nitrous addict, what is best for the CLS-5AT auto, ZEX wet kit or NX wet kit?

I got quoted like $580 for the a complete NX kit, with a full 10 lb of Nitrous. I need to add a Nitrous Pressure Gauge.

And, how about a 2-gauge mount for Trany Temp and Nitrous bottle pressure?
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:53 AM
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The N/X kit has better designed and better quality nozzles...Im itching for the baby's bottle too - but I feal my 2nd tranny going...Maybe after it goes, I will think about it.................................






Damn that's sad
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Wow, $580 is not a bad price at all.. just make sure you figure out exactly what they mean by a complete kit... some times you might end up spending over a grand after you get all of the "required, but not included" accessories.

Good luck!
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by mc222
The N/X kit has better designed and better quality nozzles...
my ass they do, maybe better than zex, but the quality isn't all that great.

one of the pressure valves on my bottle gave loose the first time I filled it up. This action rendered my setup useless. NX didn't warranty it, so the shop who bought it for me had to buy another one out of their pockets.

should be able to run for the first time this weekend. *hopefully*
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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if you are just going w/ a 55 shot I wouldn't even bother getting a wet kit. Wet isn't really necessary until you are running 75-100. And a dry shot is easier to hide and pull out when it comes time to go to the dealer. Also, IMO less room for error.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by mantis23
my ass they do, maybe better than zex, but the quality isn't all that great.

one of the pressure valves on my bottle gave loose the first time I filled it up. This action rendered my setup useless. NX didn't warranty it, so the shop who bought it for me had to buy another one out of their pockets.

should be able to run for the first time this weekend. *hopefully*


sounds like it was the shops fault and the over filled it. I've seen this happen a few times.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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also as far as gauges, i'd do tranny and EGT
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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a problem with the zex kit is the "faulty" smartbox. a lot of people have had problems, including me, with the box resetting itself every time you turn it off or it not being able to set it at all.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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I ran the nx wet kit at 75 shot with no problems. I was consitantly pullnig13.4's without headers. Definatley use the Pressure gauge. Also would recommend the a/f gauge. I have owned three cars with the nx kit and never once had any trouble with them. NX is my recommendation.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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Bent - Did you use the MSD Ignition safety switch thing ( sorry I dont know the technical names) or the Pill thing...When I was looking into a nitrous setup - the guy at the speedshop was pressuring me into purchasing those 2 things along with the NX wet kit
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by ghander
if you are just going w/ a 55 shot I wouldn't even bother getting a wet kit. Wet isn't really necessary until you are running 75-100. And a dry shot is easier to hide and pull out when it comes time to go to the dealer. Also, IMO less room for error.
I was/am somewhat interested in a ZEX 75, but am rather concerned about the tranny, given that I am on my third...without the extra beating brought on by N20.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by ghander
sounds like it was the shops fault and the over filled it. I've seen this happen a few times.
it took about 5 seconds before it gave loose, the bottle was no where close to being full.

even though he put it in the freezer for 30 mins...only thing we could think of was that the bottle was still too hot...

texas heat ain't no punk, it was 6:00 and it had been sitting in the trunk all day.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
I was/am somewhat interested in a ZEX 75, but am rather concerned about the tranny, given that I am on my third...without the extra beating brought on by N20.

i'm on my 3rd too
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Why one need EGT, is this the Exhaust Gas Temp? What does tell you?

Also, I prefer not having a mechanical microswitch, I prefer the one that read directly the volage of the throtle position sensor.
Does NX kit have one?

Finally, the NX wet kit was $560 not $580, remote bottle opener is $211 more. The gauges are extra too.

Major worries: the tranny!
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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it gives you a better read out and idea of if you are running rich/lean



Also, why even go w/ the switch, why not just have it hooked up to a button so you can do it manually


Squeezing the button is half the fun!
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by ghander

Also, why even go w/ the switch, why not just have it hooked up to a button so you can do it manually


Squeezing the button is half the fun!
Ah, I thought that squezing Nitrous on anything but WOT is really bad for the engine. in non-WOT throtle The ECU is in economy mod seeing Nitrous with the wrong fuel map is bad, no?

If you have Venom VC-1000 system you can do what ever you want, linear, timed, or drag mode.


You can still have "the squeesing button" if u prefer but if there is no WOT, NOS won't be activated.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Ah, I thought that squezing Nitrous on anything but WOT is really bad for the engine. in non-WOT throtle The ECU is in economy mod seeing Nitrous with the wrong fuel map is bad, no?

If you have Venom VC-1000 system you can do what ever you want, linear, timed, or drag mode.


You can still have "the squeesing button" if u prefer but if there is no WOT, NOS won't be activated.


well, yes you should be at WOT when you hit the button. But it's cool in deciding when you are gonna first engage for deciding when you are gonna get traction, etc.


I just prefer a button


everyone has their own preferences


it's nice to have dead to dead races w/o the bottle and then just hit it on them to give them a big suprise
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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I like ZEX, I have had it for over a year with no problems at all. If you stay within a 55-75 hp range you are safe with a dry kit. There is really no benefit to having a wet kit for 55-75 hp.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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NASHUA - i got a Brand new NX stage 1 wet kit along with the Remote bottle opener and GENx2 upgrade kit. Let me know if you are interested. Make me an offer. All still in plastic
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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jucee187, why are u selling, never installed? why? What is GENx2 upgrade? Thanks.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by mc222
Bent - Did you use the MSD Ignition safety switch thing ( sorry I dont know the technical names) or the Pill thing...When I was looking into a nitrous setup - the guy at the speedshop was pressuring me into purchasing those 2 things along with the NX wet kit
I ran a micro switch which activated at WOT. I have never ran it any other way. Just a lot safer in my opinion.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by jucee187
NASHUA - i got a Brand new NX stage 1 wet kit along with the Remote bottle opener and GENx2 upgrade kit. Let me know if you are interested. Make me an offer. All still in plastic
Never installed.. im selling b/c im getting rid of the CLS ..

Gen x 2 upgrade is everything ull need ..

Bottle heater, Purge valve, blow down tube, etc.

CHeck www.nitrousexpress.com for more detail.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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You can also combine rpm switch with WOT sensors to control spray at or only through certian RPM ranges. Or you can use the RPM switch stand alone. I am have the system I put on car spraying only when both of the following conditions are met 1) WOT & 2) rpms are between 2500 and 6600. It shuts it off after 6600 even with staying full on the throttle. I did this to hopefully take some of the strain of the shifts for the AT.
Another point is I still have to "arm" the setup to have it "on", this is done via a toggle button. If the lines have been purged (which the system doesn't need to be armed to do), then I can stil control when I engage the nitrous or if at all for fore mentioned reasons traction, timing of race or turns, choice etc. and still stay at WOT by just turning the system on or off. If I toggle the system on but one of my two conditions aren't being met then no spray. Using these differnt switches (availible on all kits to my knowledge) allows you complete control and flexibility on how and when you nitrous system will engage as well as an element of safety in my opinion.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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MtBikr. how big is your shot?
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
MtBikr. how big is your shot?
I would have to say something between a 75 and a 100. I tihnk we ended up using 75 shot nozzels. I don't remember we switch nozzles so many time, once we even had nozzles in for a carborated 6 cyl.:o That was quickly noted and the mistake was done, Right now the shot give just over 100 fwhp over the stock dyno, making the largest gains in the hi rpms.
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