Collective27

I was at Wayne Acura in Wayne NJ yesterday and was talking to one of the guys there for a while and he told me that they had just gottin the info on the 2002's and that there will be no manual,and that the only change will be the lights on the back will have white on the top like the tl's do now...he said expect the manual in 2003. Also if you are in the area i would suggest stoping by there cause they are currently offering CL s at very good prices cause of a huge inventory of them, he told me that they are offering type s 's w/o navi for like 29ish, maby cheeper

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Darren Pisano

1989 Acura Legend L
126,000+ miles and still going strong

batra

damn, that blows

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1992 VW Passat; 2.0L 134 hp 4-cyl; 5-speed; Single exhaust; Single engine; Wanna race ? ;-)

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Honestly, I'm one of the skeptics to begin with, so I never thought a 6 speed CLS was on the way as a 2002 model, however, there have been articles directly quoting the president of Honda of America saying that a 6-speed is due out for the 2002 model. I guess this goes back to the old saying.... I'll believe it when I see it....



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0
Mods: * PIAA Superwhite Headlights ** Rabrig Superwhite corners ** PIAA 1100x Superwhite fogs ** Clear Bumpers (finally) ** tinted windows (20% rear / 35% rest) ** Weapon-R F1 Carbon Intake ** (NOW FOR SALE!!)

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bone_stock

I never believed it anyway. In fact 2003 may be a bit opitimistic. No offense, but I wouldn't believe the salesman either.

BigPimp

I would not believe a salesman, he might just trying to give you info so that you would not give wait for 02 but rather buy now. And BTW 29ish is not a good deal for CLs w/o navi. 27.5 would be a good deal on a CL. Just thought I'd mention it.



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Bad ideas catch on quickly

Rod

I wouldn't believe the sales guy either. Did you go in like if you were going to buy a CL-S? He might've just said that so that you wouldn't wait for the 2002 and go for the 2001 now.

z28typeSWRXkid

i also didnt believe it...why would they build a 6-speed anyway...they dont sell..and to make it even semi-profitable it would have to be on the accord. Even less accord buyers are lookin for manuals.

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The Fast and the Furious
June 22
San Marino Red Type-S(its my dads...but soon to be mine)

Shawn S

My dealer said the same thing when I was there on Tuesday.
This would actually work out better for me as I should have mine paid off by next year.

BTW.....They have no reason to lie to me because I’m sure they would be more then happy to RAPE me on a trade and put me in a 2002 stick shift.

Shawn S


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Make me an offer….It’s FOR SALE when the 6-Speed MANUAL comes out, I HATE the SLUSH SHIFT !!!

2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER AMP w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - X****r CAI - Shine by ZAINO
For Photos see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

I'd also have to agree with this. The guy told you it wasn't coming out, not only that, but he has you on a bulletin board promoting the great deals he has on the 2001 models. Something smells fishy, and I believe you're being played for a sucker. I was going to edit the post and remove the dealers name, but I think we should leave it so people know where they shouldn't go to buy an Acura.....



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0
Mods: * PIAA Superwhite Headlights ** Rabrig Superwhite corners ** PIAA 1100x Superwhite fogs ** Clear Bumpers (finally) ** tinted windows (20% rear / 35% rest) ** Weapon-R F1 Carbon Intake ** (NOW FOR SALE!!)

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CLpower

i don't believe the dealer.....to many magazines have said that it'd be available. Dealers are stupid...how many of them still say the cl isn't available in aegean blue?

tel1sps

Wayne is not from your average Acura dealership.....

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X7.5 GT1 Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

bone_stock

That's true, but magazines have been known to be wrong. I've seen several national mags that have screwed up CLS specs.

HellaWhat

Pasasdena Acura also told me that Acura has an 18-month product cycle. If the CL-P came out last year before the CL-S then a new CL-P in August, September or October would fall in line with that claim. If that's true, then it'll be a while before you see an updated CL-S.

my 2 cents.

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Dammit, where's my CLS??!@

wayneg

Just to get a few things cleared up. Wayne Acura is different from Wayne Gruen. I used to be Service Manager there a few years ago, but left because they would'nt let me run a shop the way we do here. So, please don't confuse my name with their name.!!!

BTW- 6sp manual does not currently show up on the order info for the 2002 CL. I have no info one way or the other, but I would think that if it was going to be avail, there would be an order code for it on the new list. there is one for the 02 CLs a/t!

Also- we can beat any deal on an 01 CL-s in this area plus give you that great Park Ave Acura Service


Just thought I would let you know.

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Wayne Gruen
Service Manager
Park Ave Acura
*** The opinions expressed above are my own and I in no way speak for American Honda or Acura. ***

2002 TL-S Black on Black
Factory Body Kit, Factory Spoiler, Comptech Springs, Comptech Sways, Comptech Headers, Comptech Exhaust, Xephyr CAI
Tuning by Jens

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juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

There's the man... I was wondering when you were going to post on this topic!! Looks like we'll all be kept in suspense. Oh well, doesn't matter to me, but some people on here will be disappointed if it doesn't happen!!



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0
Mods: * PIAA Superwhite Headlights ** Rabrig Superwhite corners ** PIAA 1100x Superwhite fogs ** Clear Bumpers (finally) ** tinted windows (20% rear / 35% rest) ** Weapon-R F1 Carbon Intake ** (NOW FOR SALE!!)

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NOVAwhiteTypeS

Hey some bring that photoshop up w/ the red/clear tails.

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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter w/ J&J RAP CAI. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers,Springs,Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.Polarg m6


gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

so cal type s_RENAMED

i hope those 2002 lights fit! imagining it'll look pretty sharp. .

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LAKERS: BACK TO BACK!

Collective27

Well to put in my 2 more cents, one he didnt have me go on the board to promote his dealership, i just came and said that, and he said he can start the cl-s at that price, and then work from there....im also planing on buying my new car, when ever that should be (dam parents) from park ave., just by the way they treated everyone at the CL meet a couple of weeks back...also the way the guy was telling me, i dont think that he was just saying that to get me to buy one now cause i strait out told him that i would not be buying it any time soon. I do have to say though, they do have a nice dealership, givin that they have about 10 cl-s parked right in the front so everyone on the highway can see them

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Darren Pisano

1989 Acura Legend L
126,000+ miles and still going strong

Type S

manual does not suprise me..as i do not intend to buy a manual car at very first beginning..so..that does not bother me..

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2001 Acura Red CL Type S.
1997 Honda Civic EX.
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phil2

FFFOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKEEEEERRRRRRR'SS

I HAVE BEEN PATINENTLY WAITING FOR THIS SIXSPEED TO COME OUT AND NOW I HEAR THIS!!! OMG OMG....LOOKS LIKE I HAVE TO GET SOMETHIN ELSE!!!!! DAMN DAMN...THIS IS SOOOO LIKE ACURA TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS!

MCHM3

i just spoke to doug(syncivic) and they get a manual one in august its like 1 of the first one for them to play with and doug knows his shit

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2001 3.5 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, aem cold air intake,nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter, dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished,s-afc,
INFECTED WITH POST WHORE SYNDROME

phil2

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS MCHTYPES??

I REALLY WANT THE TYPE-S BUT NOT THE SLUSH SHIFT!!!!

moomaster_99

My friend went to one of the Acura dealerships in the area and put a down payment on one of the manuals. The car will not be available until October. If this weren't true, he would pick one up right now since his wife is taking back the CL-S.

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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)
14.698 @95.977mph....Sears Point Raceway.I think I need a Level 10 Torque Converter!!
Yes, I know I'm going to hell for wasting gas on Civics....
My Peoples

MCHM3

hey thats what doug told me and they are the biggest acura dealer in the world


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2001 3.5 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, aem cold air intake,nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter, dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished,s-afc,
INFECTED WITH POST WHORE SYNDROME

Scooter

i'm more interested in what the new tail lights look like than the 6-speed issue. i could care less bout a manual, esp. b/c i'm not buying a new car after i just bought one less than a year ago


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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

- PIAA 19224 road lamps
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- the OLD cup holder
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Collective27

This just goes to show you though, that some people say one thing and others say other things...i dont know who to beleve, but the guy i talked with sounded extremly confident that there will be no six speed till 03, but then you say that there will be and people are saying that they but money down on one, so i guess we will just have to wait and see....9 days till the relese of the RSX !



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Darren Pisano

1989 Acura Legend L
126,000+ miles and still going strong

SidVicious

I'd like to get a look at the new tail lights. That might be somehting I'd be interested in. It would look sweet. I can picture it now.

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SidVicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 | K&N Filter (Installed 6/19/01) | Comptech Sways (waiting to be installed) | Sungard Tint (30% Sides, 20% Back) | DOM 11/2000 |

1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust |

{insert "Green Box 4 Mod!" gif here}

SatinCL

Ahhh....only Honda can pull this ambiguity shit. Some recent examples:

1) We didn't know Aegean Blue was available until they were delivered to dealers. "Is it SEMA Blue?" "Is it Aygian Blue?"

2) The now famous TL Type-S was a rumor until they too were delivered to dealerships. We had to jack off to sketches up to weeks before the first one hit dealership lots.

3) A new RL/Legend will be intro'd March 02 and will be a VERY important platform for the upwardly future of the brand.....we dunno anything there either. Yet we see spy pics of the new BMW 7 series 1 year in advance.

4) The Civic Si hatch coulda had 200hp or 160hp. It was confirmed out at 200hp until 2 months ago when Honda changed their minds at the last minute.

5) Dealers know jack shit. We knew more about the new RSX before they did due to the Net.......and everything was written in Japanese.

There are more, but I'll stop here.

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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33

DOM: 5/00

Ult

SatinCL, I concurr 100%.

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-Ult

Rod

I think the CL will look better with completely red tail lights than with the two-color tail lights on the 2002 TLs.

Iridium130

The tail-light issue :

Let's hope Acura isn't going to be a "Lexus" about the situation...the 01 GS has a *slightly* different tailight now, and they designed it so it was just a tad bigger than the 00s, 99s, etc. so they could not fit on.

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2K1 #10,029 Satin Silver CL-S since 6/13/00 named Laetitia with Navi! Mods : XEPHYR PERFORMANCE CAI~3M Reflective Tint(37%) tint~Hiper Hibrid Plasma "Xenon" road lamps & high-beams~Uniden LRD 6599SWS Radar Detector~Shine by Meguiar's Gold Wax~Member of the Scratched Rims Club~Upgraded cupholder ~

http://www.postwhores.com

CarFreak_RENAMED

Here is a spy pic of the 2002 CLS type S.



hehehe....jus kidding.. I found this somewhere, but I don't know who I got it from. I think it looks pretty good!

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2002 TL TYPE S
SATIN SILVER/EBONY w/NAVI

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HellaWhat

That car's got Virgina plates on it. Looks liek a custom job to me.

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Dammit, where's my CLS??!@

DeLucCL-S

Well...i for one would like to get my hands on the white/red tail lights. I dig the look on the TL-S. Hopefully they will fit if all this is true.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
All Stock
Real Fast
Blackwood Dask Kit

spiroh

That was a pic someone photoshopped to show it to us LONG time ago.

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Comptech Headers
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Like Spiroh said, that's a photoshop job from about a year ago. I can't believe it's still around!!



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0
Mods: * PIAA Superwhite Headlights ** Rabrig Superwhite corners ** PIAA 1100x Superwhite fogs ** Clear Bumpers (finally) ** tinted windows (20% rear / 35% rest) ** Weapon-R F1 Carbon Intake ** (NOW FOR SALE!!)

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WebToker

I for sure want some of those new tail lights. I guess I will start saving now.


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Mustang Killa

MyBigBlack S

I think the new tail lights will make us look like a solara. I'd only be happy if that shaved a few inches of our large a$$ and sharpened the lines. Oh yeah, and lets just go ahead and make it clear that nobody knows whether we're getting a manual in 02 or not. Acura's just fickle.

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2001 Black CL-S Navi, spoiler, visor, PIAA 19169s

JZ

Man, I learned al ong time ago not to believe a word the dealer says. Wayne made his casae very effectively and efficiently. He said they do not have an order code yet as he thought they would if it were due out when expected. That's all he said. Not yes or no. THAT was a good answer.

Man, I bet you right this second if you went to any Acura dealer and asked them when the RSX type R was coming out you would hear more bullshit answers than you would believe. Hell, I already heard from my dealer that the RSX-R would be out 8 months after the initial release.

Listening to dealers is worse than taking the word of teenage girls.

STOP DOING IT EVERYBODY!!! Let's just wait and see.

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Black/black CLS
Comptech headers, springs, swaybars
Koni yellows
Polarg M6 road lamps
Solaris Hi beams
Potenza RE730 225/45/17
Red AEM CAI
Denso Iridium plugs
35% metallic tint

JRock

I can't believe some people are so hard up about having a manual tranny in the CL-S. The thing isn't even a sports car. If you MUST have a manual box, get a damned S2000 or something. Sheeeit.

-J

edit-

Dammit, JZ, she SWORE she was over 18.


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2001 CL-S Aegean Blue/black interior spoiler, wheel locks, no-navi
50% tint sides, 35% back.
J&J RAP CAI

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