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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 06:10 PM
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Nitrous on a Type S?

Is it doable?

How many parts would need replacing or upgrading?

What size shot?

Wet or dry shot? (What's the difference between wet shot and dry shot?)

How would you set it up?

Seeing how the Type S has the high compression and domed pistons that don't make for good use of a supercharger or turbo, I was thinking, "what about nitrous?"

Anyone here have experience with it or know about it?
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 06:52 PM
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I think someone on here NOS'ed up their type-s. Maybe CLPOWER??

\Anyways, I would not recommend this on our HIgh Compression engines.

Remember NOS is like AIDS/HIV for your engine!



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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 06:55 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jayru:
I think someone on here NOS'ed up their type-s. Maybe CLPOWER??

\Anyways, I would not recommend this on our HIgh Compression engines.

Remember NOS is like AIDS/HIV for your engine!

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Nope, not CLpower, he has a 1st gen.

I believe that TANN has a kit on his TL, and that is really close with cl's. Not really but more then the 1st gens. I think it would be alright, just dont over use it.


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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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Jayru, I don't get the AIDS/HIV reference, could you explain?

So I take it that nitrous is no different than turbo/supercharger when it comes to the high compression of the Type S engine: it makes for detonation?
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 10:04 PM
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I think all he means is that it's bad for your engine.

A better simile would be that NOS is like methamphetamines for your engine, the addiction component paralleled by the compulsion to squeeze frequently.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 10:44 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DtEW:
I think all he means is that it's bad for your engine.

A better simile would be that NOS is like methamphetamines for your engine, the addiction component paralleled by the compulsion to squeeze frequently.

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exactally however i think there is not the same detonation factor with nitrous as with forced induction i think someone went over this before dont remeber who but i think its not the same



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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 12:07 AM
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So if it's done with care and the shot isn't more than 50-75hp it probably would be okay?
What parts would need upgrading? Fuel pump? Spark plugs? Intake/exhaust?
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 02:46 AM
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I had an Integra GS-R before this & I was spraying a 60 shot for almost four years & not one problem. If you do your research & don't over do it with the juice, you would have many years of care free winning.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JRock:
Is it doable?

How many parts would need replacing or upgrading?

What size shot?

Wet or dry shot? (What's the difference between wet shot and dry shot?)

How would you set it up?

Seeing how the Type S has the high compression and domed pistons that don't make for good use of a supercharger or turbo, I was thinking, "what about nitrous?"

Anyone here have experience with it or know about it?
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 03:03 PM
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like any upgrade it must be installed using only high quality parts and equipment.Having a knowledgable mechanic do it is advisable unless you have done it yourself or are competent with this sort of work.Be advised many dealers frown upon Nitrous Oxide and may give you a hard time if you bring the car in for service.Although they should not void your warranty (many will threaten to) they can elect to not provide warranty service if they feel the nitrous was the cause of your car's problems.If you do not overdo it and make certain that the engine has both the fuel side of the system and the electronic side of it well under control it should work well.As a mechanic of many years I advise against it only based on what I have personally seen go wrong with these Nitrous systems i.e. stuck valves ultra lean mixtures blown or melted pistons and races lost because you flat ran out of happy gas.Personally I prefer superchargers turbochargers as once these are setup they are mostly maintenance free and do not require costly refills.Jens

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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the info and opinion!
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 08:20 PM
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you will need to change the plugs and have a way to check air fuel ratio (autotap) if the ratio is correct, your biggest problem will be $ for n20.

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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 12:47 AM
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you would need to change your plugs, thats about it, i think you could run a 75 shot w/ no problem, i'm actually gonna be upgrading to a 100shot for those important days.
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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 12:53 AM
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What monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday and sunday?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLpower:
i'm actually gonna be upgrading to a 100shot for those important days. </font>


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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 04:36 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JRock:
Is it doable?

How many parts would need replacing or upgrading?

What size shot?

Wet or dry shot? (What's the difference between wet shot and dry shot?)

How would you set it up?

Seeing how the Type S has the high compression and domed pistons that don't make for good use of a supercharger or turbo, I was thinking, "what about nitrous?"

Anyone here have experience with it or know about it?
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Of course it is "doable". There is a great saying. "If you have the money, you can do anything you want."

As for the amount of parts, it depends on what you want out of the system.

Size; hwo much power do you want.

Let me get back to you on differnce on wet and dry.

As for setup, I would suggest naturally aspirate it. Forget NOS and the rest. Making power form the engine is the real test. Any idiot can add NOS or a supercharger/turbo. Trying to get all your power out of the engine shows you know what you're doing. (My 2 cents)
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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 04:30 PM
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I agree with Turbo about NOS, kinda like steroids---any lamer can buy a bottle and be the big man for a while, until they run out. Then they've got no hair, shrunken nuts, and b!tch tits. I don't share the same adversion for super-chargers but I think NOS is for girls and dentists. IMO
Although Turbo, if you don't appreciate SC's or Turbos why is you sn "Turbo OX"?



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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Trying to get all your power out of the engine shows you know what you're doing. (My 2 cents)
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Yeah that's great if you've got loads of money and can live without a car while the engine's being pulled, blueprinted, and worked on.

Now for someone who only has one car and wants a nice speed boost when it's needed...

Plus the fact that there AREN'T any SuperCs or turbos available for the Type S yet...

That's what led me to ask about Nitrous.

And the "being without a car" is also the reason I wouldn't want to do something that could harm the engine: I want as little downtime as possible and as little chance of harming the engine as possible.

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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
What monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday and sunday?



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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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I don't know about NOS, it can eat the engine. But you are right, without a turbo or supercharger planned, there is not much else out there past those damn expensive headers, CAI, V-AFC, and exhaust.

** Hopefully with the coming of the TL Type S, the engine will get enough play from our major performance houses!



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Old Feb 26, 2001 | 09:29 PM
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Hey CLPower!

Are you spraying your car yet? Or do you have plans to spray? Do you think the tranny can handle it?

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Old Feb 27, 2001 | 12:43 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S:
Hey CLPower!

Are you spraying your car yet? Or do you have plans to spray? Do you think the tranny can handle it?

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spraying already, the tranny is fine. It's alot stronger the people give it credit for. I'm adding an extra tranny cooler to be safe though. I did already lose one tranny, but i think it was doomed from the startq
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Old Feb 27, 2001 | 01:10 PM
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im planning to spray nos on my cl-s, now that i have more fuel with my regulator, the only thingyou should worry about isnt the engine cuz it can handle it, but the tranny thats the only thing im worried about. i plan to spray a 60 shot,wet system. clpower i hope your tranny doesnt start slippin cuz thats what happened to my old accord i was sprayin 80 and like in 4 -5 months major slippage

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Old Feb 27, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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hey clpower, what shot do you have? i really want to do it and i get close to buy nos and then i hear a story about it destroying some ones engin. i have gone threw a tranny already and it wasn't fun. i was thinking about a 50shot to shut up those CL-S owners.i'm close to beating them now but i want to kick there ass. dont get me wrong i like the typeS but the owners are was to cockey. anyway let me know how you trans holds up.
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Old Feb 27, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fastvtecCL:
hey clpower, what shot do you have? i really want to do it and i get close to buy nos and then i hear a story about it destroying some ones engin. i have gone threw a tranny already and it wasn't fun. i was thinking about a 50shot to shut up those CL-S owners.i'm close to beating them now but i want to kick there ass. dont get me wrong i like the typeS but the owners are was to cockey. anyway let me know how you trans holds up.</font>
i have a 50 shot now, i raced mike w/ his type S and headers, and it was fairly close, he would start to pull in 3rd. But my car is basically stock and you should destroy them. How your tranny blow? Mine did too
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Old Feb 27, 2001 | 02:12 PM
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i dont know why the tranny blow the acura dealer said they dont know what happen either,it was so fucked up i had to put in reverse to go foward. anyway about the NOS should i do it or not??? i just got my AEM pullies and now i have 190hp to the wheels next is either custom cut vtec cam or nos i'm not sure yet.
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Old Feb 28, 2001 | 12:17 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLpower:
spraying already, the tranny is fine. It's alot stronger the people give it credit for. I'm adding an extra tranny cooler to be safe though. I did already lose one tranny, but i think it was doomed from the startq</font>
You say you already lost one tranny? Was it on another car or was it the CL-S? How much are you spraying now? Have you been to the track? If, so what kinda numbers are you getting? Let me know where you get the tranny cooler from.



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Old Feb 28, 2001 | 02:47 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S:
You say you already lost one tranny? Was it on another car or was it the CL-S? How much are you spraying now? Have you been to the track? If, so what kinda numbers are you getting? Let me know where you get the tranny cooler from.

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i don't have a type S, i have a 99 3.0...i ran against mike who has headers, we were pretty even most of the time to about 70
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fastvtecCL:
[B] i was thinking about a 50shot to shut up those CL-S owners.i'm close to beating them now but i want to kick there ass. dont get me wrong i like the typeS but the owners are was to cockey. [B]</font>

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